OSAS= House Built on Sand

So it's not just me. You hit the nail on the head!

Tell me Ralph, where does this "faith" that you have come from?

....It appears to me you believe that if a born again believer sins and then dies before he or she confesses his or her sin, that person is cast into the lake of fire..../QUOTE]

r...,

Doesn't your thought make G-d out as unfair?
I think so. Common sense tells me that would be unfair...and we know that G-d is not unfair.
G-d would forgive because He knows what is in our heart and if we regularly repent of an occasional sin ...He knows that would be done in short order. Sure it is....otherwise G-d could take us during that short window.

Of course we are to confess our sin to be forgiven.


There are many here who don’t believe we even have to do that.


They teach we don’t have to repent or confess ours sins.


Is that what you believe?



JPT

and where did I say that one has no need to love God or other people.

what I say is what Paul said- grace , faith , works. you and some others are pushing faith+works= grace. that is wrong. Paul is right.

Faith (the ability to know something is true that we can't see) comes from God. We then do the believing/trusting in response to being able to know the unseen gospel is true.

That bothers you for two reasons. 1) you don't recognize the difference between the ability to believe and the actual believing a person does in response to having the ability to believe. And 2) you have been programmed to think that ANYTHING we do to be justified/saved is us trying to earn our own salvation when actually it is works that constitute the works gospel, not believing. Believing is not included in the things we do to earn our own salvation by works. See the difference between the two here:

"5But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness " - Romans 4:4-5

See it? To the one who does not work, but rather believes......that is the person who receives justification as a free gift. Believing is set apart and distinct from working to earn salvation. And we do that believing through the ability God has given us to supernaturally know the gospel we can't see is true. God gives the ability to believe, we choose whether or not we are going to use that ability to believe to then trust in Christ and be saved.

The ONLY work we could possibly do that would please God is to place TRUST in the fact that Jesus paid for our sins once and for all and that he gave us eternal life. That is the ONLY thing God asks of us.
Period! End of story!

OSAS teaches that a person can live in sin and remain saved.


Sinning, disobeying His Commandments, is demonstrating hatred toward that person and God.



this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
1 John 5:3


again



If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.1 John 4:20-21



To live in sin is to live in hatred of God and people.



Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15



OSAS teaches us the lie.


You can live in disobedience to God and
“You will surely not die”



JPT

....It appears to me you believe that if a born again believer sins and then dies before he or she confesses his or her sin, that person is cast into the lake of fire....

Doesn't your thought make G-d out as unfair?
I think so. Common sense tells me that would be unfair...and we know that G-d is not unfair.
G-d would forgive because He knows what is in our heart and if we regularly repent of an occasional sin ...He knows that would be done in short order. Sure it is....otherwise G-d could take us during that short window.

Here is the question:

Faith (the ability to know something is true that we can't see) comes from God. We then do the believing/trusting in response to being able to know the unseen gospel is true.

That bothers you for two reasons. 1) you don't recognize the difference between the ability to believe and the actual believing a person does in response to having the ability to believe. And 2) you have been programmed to think that ANYTHING we do to be justified/saved is us trying to earn our own salvation when actually it is works that constitute the works gospel, not believing. Believing is not included in the things we do to earn our own salvation by works. See the difference between the two here:

"5But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness " - Romans 4:4-5

See it? To the one who does not work, but rather believes......that is the person who receives justification as a free gift. Believing is set apart and distinct from working to earn salvation. And we do that believing through the ability God has given us to supernaturally know the gospel we can't see is true. God gives the ability to believe, we choose whether or not we are going to use that ability to believe to then trust in Christ and be saved.

OSAS teaches that a person can live in sin and remain saved.


Sinning, disobeying His Commandments, is demonstrating hatred toward that person and God.



this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
1 John 5:3


again



If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.1 John 4:20-21



To live in sin is to live in hatred of God and people.



Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15



OSAS teaches us the lie.


You can live in disobedience to God and
“You will surely not die”



JPT

The truth is only a few out of the many he sets out to save will be saved.

14“...many are invited, but few are chosen.” - Matthew 22:14




Election is on the basis of having faith, not on the basis of being pre-programmed ahead of time to be among the chosen. Christ will not fail to save everyone chosen for salvation through faith in Christ. That's why we are exhorted to keep on believing and not fall away:

"14For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end"-Hebrews 3:14

Only believers who continue to be believers have the promise of 100% success through Christ's ministry. So don't depart from such a sure promise.

IS IT CYNICAL AND BIASED THAT "THE WRATH OF GOD COMES ON THOSE WHO ARE DISOBEDIENT"?
...THAT THEY ARE GOOD EXAMPLES OF THE PARABLE OF THE SOWER AND THE SEED WHERE CERTAIN TYPES OF BELIEVERS HEARD AND RECEIVED THE WORD THEN FALL AWAY.

hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and WHO HAVE FALLEN AWAY, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

AM I JUST SPECULATING THAT ÀNANIAS AND SAPPHIRA LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT?

acts 5
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”

ISN'T IT THAT NO LIARS SHALL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD AND;

8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and AĹL LIARS—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

DID ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH? YES

WILL THEY STILL BE SAVED AFTER LIEING AND DISOBEYING THE HOLY SPIRIT?

ARE THEY STILL WORTHY OF GOD'S GRACE?

The Sin and Doom of Ungodly People
3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

13 For such people are false apostles, deceitfulworkers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

The Bible is clear about this issue, those who God set out to save before the foundation of the world will be saved no matter how much they sinned. We know God chose murderers, fornicators and all kinds of sinners.

I back slid so many time that I lost count, I went back into the world and indulged myself in fornication every day and hard drug use and all kinds of outer sinful activity and God always forgave me when I cam back after long periods away from the Church, then spend some time in Church then I went back into the world and fully indulged in everything again and again and again and agin.

I make the prodigal son look like a Saint, but thank God His Son paid for all of my past, present and all future sins so I can rejoice in the fact that I am forgiven and justified. I sin a lot less these days because the Lord has done a great work of sanctifying me and the work will continue for the rest of my life.

Look at the verses below, and then try to tell me that a Christian can lose his salvation?


"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.


Romans 8:30
and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

Ephesians 1:13-14
In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
John 3:3
Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Titus 3:5
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of

regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

OSAS teaches that a person can live in sin and remain saved.


Sinning, disobeying His Commandments, is demonstrating hatred toward that person and God.



this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.


For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.
1 John 5:3


again



If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.1 John 4:20-21



To live in sin is to live in hatred of God and people.



Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15



OSAS teaches us the lie.


You can live in disobedience to God and
“You will surely not die”



JPT

GREAT STORY OF RESTORATION ..LIKE THE PRODIGAL SON..OR LIKE..MANY OF OUR LIVES BTW THIS WAS MY DEVOTIONAL TODAY.

God Used Samson, "the Player"

Scripture Reading: Judges 13

Samson was every woman's dream and every man's nightmare. He had supernatural strength, heroic bravery and the fighting spirit of a warrior. God gave him these gifts because his parents dedicated him to the Lord from his birth. In time, Samson's love for women caused him to compromise his call. When he lost his purity, he also lost the strength and power that God had given him. Chasing the pleasures of the world left him powerless, defeated and humiliated.

However, in his brokenness at the end of his life Samson rediscovered the call God had given him to liberate his people. When he used the blessings of God to serve others he changed history.

Don't chase the pleasures of the world but dedicate your life to serving God and others. No matter where you are, it's not too late. When you realize God's purpose for your life isn't just about you, He will use you in a mighty way.

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