OSAS= House Built on Sand

Thanks, Penned, for the beautiful and clear response and testimony! Your are a wonderful man!

My quibble has nothing to do with your character or testimony - that speaks for itself.

But your analogy of "once a son then always a son" just does not stand up to careful analysis. You use it to say that once a Christian then we are always a Christian. But when I point out that we were all children of the Devil, but are no longer children of the Devil, you just skirt the issue. If "once a son always a son" is true, then once a child of the Devil always a child of the Devil.

Are you serious?? You believe that if a person continues to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation, that is a work of the flesh?

I did answer your question by pointing out that your point is irrelevant because birth is not a guarantee of inheritance. Numerous people in the bible who were rightful heirs were disinherited from receiving the promises of GOD (e.g., Ishmael, Esau, Reuben, King Saul, the nation of Israel, etc).

R....,

True...and it is interesting that the OSAS interpretation of scriptures...without scriptures, I might add.....is not found as part of the christian teachings or applications before the 1960's....that we can find in research...so far.
Why is that a significant point......because we had a moral and social revolution in that era and because of guilt from having been taught in school and church many had to find a way to ...tickle their ears...and relieve their guilt. So, several new age religion interpretations were forthcoming to accomplish that goal...OSAS is one of them. It is not biblical based..

so, the sheep wonders off, gets lost, then the Shepard goes and finds the sheep, rejoices that the lost sheep was found, and somehow you interject that the sheep has to earn his way back into the flock.

miss the point much?

There is a discussion to be had over what exactly inheritance is, and are there different meanings to it.

But for now, and I really don't know if there is a place, can you show me where any of those you listed were called Children of God?

Can you show me where it says they were SEALED by the Holy Spirit as a guarantee?

Inheriting the kingdom of God is self explanatory.


Inheriting eternal life is self explanatory.



What needs to be explained about these things?



JPT

@Ralph- @justpassinthrough

Food for thought ..if your point about this OSAS hasnt gotten through in 9 plus pages of back n forth replies..maybe you need to examine what your TRUE motives are for goung on..n onnn..n oooonnnnnnn in CIRCLES..lol

2Timothy 23-24

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"23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."

Amen?

I quoted a scripture because i know how you all like doing that to make a Biblical point

The sheep who wanders away becomes lost.


Is someone who is lost saved or unsaved?

That and perhaps these people are struggling with doubt, and, living in failure as a Christian. They need to know as long as they don't go back to the world in outright unbelief and a denial of Christ that their faith in Christ, as weak as it may be, keeps them justified before the Father in heaven.

But 'once saved always saved' is the false gospel they have turned to to relieve the pressure of their doubts and sinful failures when the real answer is to keep believing Christ is the payment for their sins of weakness and ignorance and doubt they commit (no need to invent an ear tickling doctrine that says they are saved no matter what). And to remember the only sin Christ can't cover is the willful decision to go back to the world in unbelief. But 'once saved always saved' has deceived them into thinking they can go back to the world in defeat and they are still saved.

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. 2 Timothy 2:20-26





JPT

Inheriting the kingdom of God is self explanatory.


Inheriting eternal life is self explanatory.



What needs to be explained about these things?



JPT

Can you show me where it says they were SEALED by the Holy Spirit as a guarantee?

Some will enter the Kingdom inheriting nothing. Like the Prodigal son who wasted his inheritance, yet still is in the Kingdom.

Notice, that not everyone will receive rewards in the Kingdom yet they WILL be in the Kingdom:

1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; BUT HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, yet so as through fire.

its sad that so many here dont understand the difference between salvation and inheritance

Inheritance means heirs of the kingdom of GOD (James 2:5) and heirs of the promises to Abraham (Hebrews 6:17, Galatians 3:25). There is no salvation apart from these two things.

Do you believe you have been declared just by God?

Yes.

The righteous inherit the kingdom of GOD (Matthew 25:34), but the unrighteous do not (1 Corinthians 6:91-10, Galatians 5:21, Ephesians 5:5)

@Ralph- making a DESCISSION to be saved is an adjective NOT a "work" ..action..not work..we are persued and prompted by God /Holy Spirit to become saved because God doesnt want anyone to "perish" but yet WE have to decide if we'll accept His GIFT of salvation or not..