OT Salvation?

Hebrews 10
4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.
8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

So what...it had nothing to do with his eternal salvation given by faith....ZERO, NIL, NOTHING, NADDA!!

Where is that written?

There's a difference between righteousness in the OT and God's righteousness in the NT available after the resurrection. There's too many to post.

Deut. 6:25 And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the Lord our God, as he hath commanded us.

2 Samuel 22:21 The Lord rewarded me according to my righteousness: according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.

Luke 1:6 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

And btw, faith demands works. Faith without works is dead, being alone.

Both were/are saved by faith...NO WORKS REQUIRED TO OBTAIN ETERNAL SALVATION!

Amen. Thank you for the truth...

The same way that Jesus was saved, by the Holy Ghost.

• Mark 11:30
• Romans 6:3
• Matthew 3:16

Do you think that Jesus was the first person that the LORD raised from the dead?

• Luke 16:31

The same way Jesus was saved and the same way man will always be saved, by their hope in the LORD.

• Romans 8:24

Why do you believe that Jesus needed to be "saved"??

Zmouth said:

Do you think that Jesus was the first person that the LORD raised from the dead?

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There was the "other" Lazarus, the friend of Mary and Martha's (in John 11) that Jesus raised from the dead (though He said that he was just "sleeping" if memory serves). Jesus is/will always be the firstborn from the dead however .. Colossians 1:18.

Pretty sure no one was raised from the dead in Luke 16:31, even though the rich man had hoped Father Abraham would send that Lazarus to his brothers from Paradise as a warning to them.

Zmouth said:

The same way Jesus was saved and the same way man will always be saved, by their hope in the LORD.

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I agree with you about being saved by faith/trust/hope in the Lord, OT or NT, but I'm certain that the Lord never needed to save Himself, or He wouldn't have been able to save us

~Deut

Zmouth has a lot of strange and bizarre ideas.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. John 11:14

Really? then how was Abraham speaking to the rich man who was buried?

Yet there was the child raised from the dead in OT 2 Kings 4:32-35

Saved you from what?

Can you explain the Deuteronomy passage and many others? If they were saved, why weren't they absent from the body and present with the Lord? What were they saved to? Abraham's bosom? Is that eternal salvation? Were they born again? Were they sealed by the Holy Spirit? Were they placed in Christ? Please give Scriptures.

Matthew 27
51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

Paul said it best when he quoted moses, and spoke of the faith of abraham

Gal 3: 6 just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.
The Law Brings a Curse
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”

So there is no way 1 is correct, bcause the standard set by God when he gave the law was perfection, show me one person other than christ who fulfilled that standard,

Again, hebrews answers this comment. The blood of bulls and goats NEVER took away sin.

We should not excuse or make allowance for sin, ever

Leviticus 19
21 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the Lord, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering.
22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the Lord for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.

Again, those OT saints had to offer sacrifices for their sins to be forgiven. If not, they were cut off from God. These sacrifices, like Hebrews tells us, could never take away sins, but could temporarily forgive them.

If jesus dd not die on the cross, no one would have made it,

Never means never, the ot sacrifice was part of the tutor relationship of the law. It was to lead peole t christ when he arrived.

The were saved by faih alone, the works followed faith, but many did the sacrfices yet will never see god, because they did not have the faith of abraham.

The KJV puts it...the righteous are scarcely saved. I see this as "barely" saved....meaning it is the minimum requirement for ultimate salvation to be righteous. Holiness brings a reward, however.

It is temporary meaning they are truly forgiven but it is not a dealing with what makes us sin. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day...but teach him to fish.... So it is with forgiveness. Forgive a man today and he will yet sin tomorrow...but give a man the grace that overcomes sin...and you have something permanent to deal with sin. The OT had no provision for overcoming sin. But we have Jesus Christ and His life to overcome in.

And I see the barely/scarcely as amount.