Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?
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God taught oneness. 
People of Christ were warned by his own words to beware of the deceit created in the doctrines of men. Believe in their writing and revoke the words of Christ himself?
Jesus answered (Mark 12:29) -
"The first of all the commandments is; Hear, O Israel, THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD."
Ignore it as they wish, tri-theism defenders should avail themselves of the resources that show them through historic proofs the origin of the Trinity as it entered the Canon.
John 14 "If you had known me, you also would have known my Father, and from this hour you do know him and you have seen him."
Did the True Church Ever Teach a Trinity?
What is the doctrine of the trinity? What is the origin of the trinity?
People of Christ were warned by his own words to beware of the deceit created in the doctrines of men. Believe in their writing and revoke the words of Christ himself?Jesus answered (Mark 12:29) -
"The first of all the commandments is; Hear, O Israel, THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD."
Ignore it as they wish, tri-theism defenders should avail themselves of the resources that show them through historic proofs the origin of the Trinity as it entered the Canon.
John 14 "If you had known me, you also would have known my Father, and from this hour you do know him and you have seen him."
Did the True Church Ever Teach a Trinity?
What is the doctrine of the trinity? What is the origin of the trinity?
The doctrine of the Trinity was formulated by the Council of Nicea in 325A.D.
I would share the links to that but all resources are being ignored by Trinitarians already because they are afraid to choose God over the Roman church decree.
When God said he is one and there is no other and people insist there are three separations within that one God that never said that himself, there's nothing that can be done to change those minds. They deny God's own words about himself and defend man's words that divide God into three's. Thinking that "God" is one unto himself. Then there's a second, "Holy Spirit" separate but still linked to "God", and a third, "Jesus".
Wow. God never said it.
I would share the links to that but all resources are being ignored by Trinitarians already because they are afraid to choose God over the Roman church decree.
When God said he is one and there is no other and people insist there are three separations within that one God that never said that himself, there's nothing that can be done to change those minds. They deny God's own words about himself and defend man's words that divide God into three's. Thinking that "God" is one unto himself. Then there's a second, "Holy Spirit" separate but still linked to "God", and a third, "Jesus".
Wow. God never said it.
I would respectfully recognize that if you are to ever encounter someone who says Immanuel, Jesus, Yeshua, was not the Father that you should at least then be aware you are not meeting with someone who respects the faith. Or, has ever read the scriptures.
"....Gabriel’s conversation with Mary prior to her miraculous conception is also helpful in gaining a proper understanding of Jesus’ name and nature. Although Gabriel did not use the term “Immanuel,” notice how he distinguished between Jesus’ given name and the titles by which He would be known as a result of His divine nature:
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We were warned in scripture there would be those who would try to lead the people of God astray. Don't for a moment think those of that description are not everywhere in the world. On line and off.
Satan roams this world seeking souls to devour. What better nourishment could he afford himself than to have his own disciples teaching anti-gospel anywhere they can?
Turn on the TV on a Sunday and you'll see them shouting to the rooftops as they stand in very expensively adorned churches.
God is not mocked!
"....Gabriel’s conversation with Mary prior to her miraculous conception is also helpful in gaining a proper understanding of Jesus’ name and nature. Although Gabriel did not use the term “Immanuel,” notice how he distinguished between Jesus’ given name and the titles by which He would be known as a result of His divine nature:
Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.... The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God(Luke 1:30-35, emp. added).
Finally, Matthew further clarifies God’s use of the “name” Immanuel in the very passage he quotes—Isaiah 7:14. Immediately before and after Matthew reminds his readers of the prophecy regarding the Messiah’s name being “Immanuel” (1:23), he noted how Joseph would call (1:21) and did call (1:25) the Messiah by “His name Jesus.” The fact that Matthew wrote of the Messiah’s “name” being “Immanuel” in verse 23, but “Jesus” in verses 21 and 25, clearly shows that Matthew understood that one name (Jesus) was a given, literal name, while the other (Immanuel), similar to Jesus’ title “Christ,” characterized His essence."Source
We were warned in scripture there would be those who would try to lead the people of God astray. Don't for a moment think those of that description are not everywhere in the world. On line and off.
Satan roams this world seeking souls to devour. What better nourishment could he afford himself than to have his own disciples teaching anti-gospel anywhere they can?
Turn on the TV on a Sunday and you'll see them shouting to the rooftops as they stand in very expensively adorned churches.
God is not mocked!
The "Shield of the Trinity" diagrams the classic doctrine of the Trinity.
This is directly from John Calvin.
I'm sorry for saying it though I must be said if you want to understand what I'm saying. Calvinism teaches a know nothing approach to the scriptures. Scripture states that the truth will make you free and that the, "Word of Elohim" is truth. Scripture teaches us to obey the Father's instructions through practicing what is righteous. Many false teachers preaching that "Jesus" is the Messiah have deceived by teaching to do nothing after salvation. Repentance is not simply professing Messiah and believing. Repentance is returning to the ancient path and doing the Word.
I believe what is missing is a proper understanding of the word and the work of sanctification through doing the Word and trusting in the testimony of Messiah the son of Elohim.
To address Emanuel, (which means God with us) and the name of Messiah, Y'shua. The name of Messiah means YHWH Saves.
Here are a few other places in scripture we can find truth.
1 Corinthians 8:6 ...'But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.'
John 17:1-3 ...'Father ... this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.'
1 Timothy 2:5 ...'For there is one God, AND one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.'
Philippians 2:11 ...'And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.'
Hebrews 9:24 ...'For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.'
Revelation 21:22-23 ...'And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.'
John 20:17 ...'Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.'
the Trinity doctrine is foundational to the false church, not true faith...
True Faith does have a foundation and in it we can find sanctification through doing the word of truth.
This is directly from John Calvin.
I'm sorry for saying it though I must be said if you want to understand what I'm saying. Calvinism teaches a know nothing approach to the scriptures. Scripture states that the truth will make you free and that the, "Word of Elohim" is truth. Scripture teaches us to obey the Father's instructions through practicing what is righteous. Many false teachers preaching that "Jesus" is the Messiah have deceived by teaching to do nothing after salvation. Repentance is not simply professing Messiah and believing. Repentance is returning to the ancient path and doing the Word.
I believe what is missing is a proper understanding of the word and the work of sanctification through doing the Word and trusting in the testimony of Messiah the son of Elohim.
To address Emanuel, (which means God with us) and the name of Messiah, Y'shua. The name of Messiah means YHWH Saves.
Here are a few other places in scripture we can find truth.
1 Corinthians 8:6 ...'But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.'
John 17:1-3 ...'Father ... this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.'
1 Timothy 2:5 ...'For there is one God, AND one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.'
Philippians 2:11 ...'And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.'
Hebrews 9:24 ...'For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.'
Revelation 21:22-23 ...'And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.'
John 20:17 ...'Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.'
the Trinity doctrine is foundational to the false church, not true faith...
True Faith does have a foundation and in it we can find sanctification through doing the word of truth.
The question I ask was very specific rlm68 based on the definition provided by a "staunch" oneness pentecostal I've known for years, is Jesus Christ the person of God the Father and the person of the Holy Spirit? Is He/Jesus all of them?
IN GOD THE SON,
james
IN GOD THE SON,
james
1 Corinthians 8:6 ...'But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; AND one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.'
John 17:1-3 ...'Father ... this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.'
1 Timothy 2:5 ...'For there is one God, AND one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.'
Philippians 2:11 ...'And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.'
Hebrews 9:24 ...'For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.'
Revelation 21:22-23 ...'And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.'
John 20:17 ...'Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.'
Let's get one thing straight? I never said nor do I believe that Jesus Christ is "NOT" God. He is God the Son. You also made this statement, "God is one. Emmanuel was holy spirit God." Perhaps you can please explain to me Matthew 1:23, "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name "Immanuel." which translated means, "God with Us."
The verse is clear, (and so is Matthew 1:21,22, that the Son is clearly assingned the name, "Immanuel" not the Holy Spirit. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are "distinct" persons. What they have in common is their nature or essence. Just like what you have in common is that your nature or essence is the same as other human's. Yet you are a "distinct" person from other humans. You are not the person of your father or mother.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The verse is clear, (and so is Matthew 1:21,22, that the Son is clearly assingned the name, "Immanuel" not the Holy Spirit. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are "distinct" persons. What they have in common is their nature or essence. Just like what you have in common is that your nature or essence is the same as other human's. Yet you are a "distinct" person from other humans. You are not the person of your father or mother.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Let's get one thing straight? I never said nor do I believe that Jesus Christ is "NOT" God. He is God the Son. You also made this statement, "God is one. Emmanuel was holy spirit God." Perhaps you can please explain to me Matthew 1:23, "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name "Immanuel." which translated means, "God with Us."
The verse is clear, (and so is Matthew 1:21,22, that the Son is clearly assingned the name, "Immanuel" not the Holy Spirit. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are "distinct" persons. What they have in common is their nature or essence. Just like what you have in common is that your nature or essence is the same as other human's. Yet you are a "distinct" person from other humans. You are not the person of your father or mother.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The verse is clear, (and so is Matthew 1:21,22, that the Son is clearly assingned the name, "Immanuel" not the Holy Spirit. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are "distinct" persons. What they have in common is their nature or essence. Just like what you have in common is that your nature or essence is the same as other human's. Yet you are a "distinct" person from other humans. You are not the person of your father or mother.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
The Father knew the hour and the son doesn't know the hour meaning that even your thoughts about them sharing an essence is misplaced. This are two different natures, one know the hour and the other doesn't.
You doctrine is blasphemous at best. Jesus was one person and one being but you insist that only the three make up one being meaning that the Father and the Holy spirit are not beings and don't exist.
John 14:
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you.
18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more; but you see me: because I live, you shall live also......
23Jesus answered and said to him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our stayed with him.
John 16:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send him to you.
In this very small context, Jesus has claimed to be the Father and the son and the Holy spirit at different times. I'm yet to see a person claim distinction here.
Great lessons from above passage:
1. The comforter was already there with the disciples but Jesus had to go for the comforter to come into them
2. The comforter can not come unless Jesus goes, if Jesus doesn't go, the comforter can not come
3. Jesus would not leave them comfortless, he would come to comfort them after a short while.
4. Jesus and the father both come into them as the comforter
There's no amount of twisting and turning can convince me about distinction here. What Jesus simply said was that He was the comforter but had to go and come in a different form to indwell them.
16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it sees him not, neither knows him: but you know him; for he dwells with you, and shall be in you.
18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while, and the world sees me no more; but you see me: because I live, you shall live also......
23Jesus answered and said to him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come to him, and make our stayed with him.
John 16:
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send him to you.
In this very small context, Jesus has claimed to be the Father and the son and the Holy spirit at different times. I'm yet to see a person claim distinction here.
Great lessons from above passage:
1. The comforter was already there with the disciples but Jesus had to go for the comforter to come into them
2. The comforter can not come unless Jesus goes, if Jesus doesn't go, the comforter can not come
3. Jesus would not leave them comfortless, he would come to comfort them after a short while.
4. Jesus and the father both come into them as the comforter
There's no amount of twisting and turning can convince me about distinction here. What Jesus simply said was that He was the comforter but had to go and come in a different form to indwell them.
There's no where in the scripture the idea that the Father is not the son and the son is not the Holy spirit is alluded to, this has always been a man's creation, another gospel that Paul was talking about.
The idea that the Father/Son/Holy spirit are authorities of one person and one being called Jesus is all over the scriptures and even prophet Isaiah said it like it is:
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Name=Authority
And the child's/son's authority shall be:
Everlasting Father- Father
Mighty God- Mighty God
Wonderful Counselor- Holy spirit
Prince of peace- Son
There's actually no debate, just a waste of time. some want to associate with majority forgetting that the wider road leads to destruction.
The idea that the Father/Son/Holy spirit are authorities of one person and one being called Jesus is all over the scriptures and even prophet Isaiah said it like it is:
Isa 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Name=Authority
And the child's/son's authority shall be:
Everlasting Father- Father
Mighty God- Mighty God
Wonderful Counselor- Holy spirit
Prince of peace- Son
There's actually no debate, just a waste of time. some want to associate with majority forgetting that the wider road leads to destruction.
The difference is, the Bible (as in the 66 Books) was hand written by Catholic monks up till the time King James translated his version.
And if you have trouble believing the RCC could do such a thing as changed the words of Christ for the trinity, how do you explain the LATIN word in the Hebrew Isaiah text? Latin did not even exist as a language when Isaiah wrote his Book. So where did the Latin word Lucifer come from when there was no Latin language then?
The RCC of course.
In fact, the Bible has many verses that was changed by the RCC.
How is it you have missed this fact? Or, does it help your false doctrine so you remain quiet about it?
First manuscripts were not written by catholic monks (they did not exist yet, for example alexandrian text types are obviously not written by professionals)
Late manuscripts were not written by catholic monks (because RCC adopted latin, so they copied Latin manuscripts. Greek manuscripts were copied by orthodox church in Byzantine empire)
The Latin word in Isaiah is in English translations, not in the Hebrew text.The Hebrew text has "helel" (meaning morning).
The Latin word got into the KJV because the KJV translators were consulting Latin Vulgate.
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So, you should use better sources for your study and facts. Whatever sources you use for these informations, they are very biased and inaccurate.
Late manuscripts were not written by catholic monks (because RCC adopted latin, so they copied Latin manuscripts. Greek manuscripts were copied by orthodox church in Byzantine empire)
The Latin word in Isaiah is in English translations, not in the Hebrew text.The Hebrew text has "helel" (meaning morning).
The Latin word got into the KJV because the KJV translators were consulting Latin Vulgate.
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So, you should use better sources for your study and facts. Whatever sources you use for these informations, they are very biased and inaccurate.