No. Jesus is the Father, the son and the Holy spirit. simple.I'm curious, why were you so "adamant" about the right or correct method of water baptism being the oneness pentecostal way? Secondly, the following is how a very stauch oneness I know defines God.
"Jesus is the Word, the God, the flesh, the Spirit, the man, the Father, the Son, the Alpha & Omega, the Lord God Almighty, He is all!" Do you agree with this statment? If not, why not?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Is Messiah,(The Anointed One) the Father?
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The question I ask was very specific rlm68 based on the definition provided by a "staunch" oneness pentecostal I've known for years, is Jesus Christ the person of God the Father and the person of the Holy Spirit? Is He/Jesus all of them?
IN GOD THE SON,
james
Yes, why not?
It really matters what you think. Is the son of God one person and one being or one person and a third of a being?
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"
Mt 28:19
"as the Father has sent Me, I also send you"
J 20:21
"God was with Him"
Acts 10:38
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
J 17:5
"I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me"
J 14:31
"In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."
J 8:18
Do I need to say more?
Yes, you need much more than that. You are trying to show how the Father and the son are are distinct but not one. Try again.
in all reality, since we know Peter and Paul baptized in the name of Christ, Matthew 28:19 is clearly an add on by the RCC.
Peter, being the Rock, would have done specifically what Christ taught Him. And since Peter baptized in Christ's name (Acts 2:38), money states that originally Matthew 28:19 said in name of Christ, not trinity.
If God is not a pie and the son is one person and one being, then you have to reduce the Father and the Holy spirit to be zero beings so that the three could be one being- very bad of you.
If you believe that Mt 28 was added by the RCC, you can also believe that Acts xyz was added by Sabellians.
Distinct persons yet one being is an impossibility. A square circle. I don't reject distinct, i reject distinct persons yet one being but accept distinct authorities of the same person.
My logic is not a pie logic but a very simple one; God is one person that has revealed Himself in three authorities. His name (authority) is Jesus- the authority above every other authority.
Your's on the other hand is a pie logic.
I like this one
You heard that I said to you, I am going away, and I am coming again to you. If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced that I said, I am going to the Father; for My Father is greater than I. John 14:28
Amen! Jesus also Baptized people. Can you imagine him doing so in the name of the three?
And yet there are those who try to divide his infinite power into a three piece pie.
More proof of one who doesn't know when "Trinity" was introduced into the faith.
Early Christians never revered a trinity. Not once.
I was thinking the same thing about you. When God's words say he is one and there is no other, no one who supports Tri-Theism is able to sustain a three fold deity and comport with God's own words. Try as they might.I find it interesting you quoted John 10:30, "I and the Father are one." The verse literally reads, "I and the Father, We are one." What one ostrich? They are one in nature or essence, that is what Jesus is saying. If you read the context of the previous few verses Jesus is telling the Jews that the sheep are equally as safe in the Father's hand and in His hands.
Now, God the Father and God the Son are also one in purpose but in these verses that is not the point Jesus is making. When Jesus said, "He and the Father are one" look at the response of the Jews at John 10:31, "The Jews took up stones AGAIN to stone Him, why?
The answer is at vs33, "The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; (what was the blasphemy ostrich?) because YOu, being a man, MAKE YOURSELF OUT GOD." In other words, the Jews knew exactly what Jesus meant when He said His Father and Him are one.
And one more thing? Jesus was "NOT" created by God His Father. Jesus is the creator along with His Father. John 1:3, "All things came into being by Him/Jesus, and apart from Him (or without Him) nothing came into being that has come into being." It seems to me ostrich, you have alot Bible Study to do.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Jesus was not created by God? Maybe start your study with a Bible dictionary and look to the meaning of, "begat".
Yeshua, Immanuel = God with us, the very scripture revokes your claim that Jesus was not God, was created as a human child with all our physical attributes in utero. So as to be born into this world following the prophetic promise of the arrival of Messiah. Because humans could not look upon God the holy spirit and live.
God is God. Messiah was prophesied throughout the old testament. He wasn't labeled as "Jesus" in the old testament. Because Jesus is the Greek translation of Yoshua, Yeshua, Joshua. God in the old testament prophesied his coming in future. And he arrived in what is later documented in the new testament.
God is one. Emmanuel was holy spirit God.