Why are people on this site so rude?

I agree that I am far from perfect, and I err on this front. But on reflection, I just don't see the value in my forcing my opinion on others. Why don't I just put it out there, and if there's any truth in it, let that prevail. I'm not in a competition.

I also need to take time to consider if what I'm about to say may unnecessarily offend someone, and if it will then out of love I ought not say it, or change it to a fashion that is innocuous but will still get my point of view out into the discussion.

Another thing I need to think about, is if I am considering initiating a thread on a particular topic, will it be unnecessarily contentious, and create unwarranted conflict.

We've all had this scripture put before our eyes at some time or other....."This is how the world will truly know you are my disciples, the love you have (and show) towards each other". If I'm slinging demeaning and derogatory words at my Christian brother or sister, I can't see how I am loving them, and therefore I can't claim to be acting like a true disciple of Jesus.

We are all here under His banner, it is displayed in the title of this services/site, and whatever we say and do must give honour/be honourable towards Him. If you ever see me being dishonourable towards God and His ways, please pull me up, for I fear insulting or mocking Him in any way as I know it will not work out well for me.

at the same time there are plenty of examples of Christ speaking to people - not only His accusers - in ways a lot of people would say are intolerably rude nowadays. even on the road to Emmaus, He called the disciples "foolish and slow to believe!" ((Luke 24:25)) -- now what if someone said that to you when they replied to your post? and the epistles tell us to earnestly contend for the faith, and not suffer false teachers to go on teaching, but to oppose them, and to rebuke them.
we need discernment too! Lord, grant it!

so it's not as simple as "just be nice; you're criticized don't argue, and if someone is saying things that aren't right let them be, God will sort it out" -- Christianity isn't "niceness" but truth.

yet gently as doves, and wise as serpents.

it's hard -- it really is. just being sweet all the time & avoiding all confrontation would be easy.

I looked and the vision is of course commendable.

The video presentation is in a good diction and auditory phonology - the spacing between your spoken breath pauses is at times, time lapsed, and I assume that is because you were reading from a screen prompt that didn't load in the appropriate spoken clausal phrases. You did mange to cover it on several occasions by spoken emphasis on the connecting words - but you may want to rewrite the prompt load (screen read) to remove that small production fault.

You present well and your body and facial physiognomy is almost perfect.

Hope that helps.

That was deep bro - but encouraging. Thank you! I actually memorized the whole thing and had trouble recalling it. So, the guy who made the video for me edited together my cuts and spliced them together really well. Much credit goes to him as well.


Thank you.

Just to say it - because I think sometimes reality needs to be stated plainly. At least in Christian circles it does. On forums its like ploughing through a mental health ward with a flagon of mead and a 10mg syringe and then realising that the entire cohort are faking being tee total and stubbornly refuse common sense - believing that being just plain stupid is actually a measure of godliness - only to find that inside they are screaming their anger if only they could get the 2 gallon flagon out of your hands and push the 10mg into your backside. In short - challenging.

From birth to aged ten I was physically and mentally abused very severely by my mother. And then from aged ten to seventeen I was in special needs residential care where I was sexually abused by the deputy head for years. Aged seventeen years I was thrown out of care with no ongoing support whatsoever. I ended up in prison and after seven years of complete insanity and appalling homelessness - when I wasn't in prison and sleeping on benches, in abandoned warehouses and by the bank of rivers - all in-between work and mental health chaos - I got saved aged 24. Most of that - is NOT equal to what I have seen and witnessed in the churches - by believers against believers.

So I come out of prison and tell the brother I knew in prison - a man who was beginning to fall back into dependance upon the world that he ought not to take his stand on his own council or his own understanding - but to wholly look to Christ no matter what life threw at him as a Christian. He thought that the church was just peachy because it put him in the pulpit to tell the whole church how wonderful Christ was because he could now work in a school and find respect.

I knew the church was filled with broken and abused people and that just digging into the top soil would uncover a stinking mess. That man - having been saved in prison himself and enduring a similar life ought to have known that he needed to keep hold of Christ and to leave the pain and the world behind him and trust not his own flesh or his experience or his skills to tell everyone about his past. He thought I was being super spiritual - too intelligent - too judgemental because I refused to speak of my past life - as he did in the church - but I would only bear witness of Christ.

He married a school teacher - had two children - became a radio host and built a replica prison cell that he took around the country warning school children not to go to prison. I warned him for six months to keep his eyes on Christ. He backslid - fell into adultery and then the Lord took his second born child. He broke his wife and threw his faith into the gutter an utterly broken man - more broken that ever his upbringing had broken him.

I have spent my entire ministry taking those in the churches in leadership to task privately who mistakenly cover up the flesh with a fine garment that seems ever so decent - when true decency is the Cross and the grave - thereto resurrection and the throne room of the Father in Christ. And if we ever loose sight of that we will just be planting seeds into imperfect soil. I scrubbed up real well - but I am never shy to just draw back the veil for everyone I meet and to show them that things are not what they seem when what is seen covers up sin and death. So no whitewashing the tomb.

Those whom you will serve from the tent to the field need more than a parade and a hope in this life - they need more than anything else the power to know that this cleaned up garment when we get saved is just skin deep and then there is a pit of sin and death waiting for those who don't fearfully trust God for their very daily bread.

Thats in the British cadence and we don't make flowery in sentiment what ought to be sober in truth.

So here is the plain truth, brother. You are clean not only because you are washed in the blood but also because you didn't fall into the gutter in the first place. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise in a folly of pretence because they cannot bear with the fact that their works are always having to be renewed. Those who will fund your work - will try to shape your spiritual direction. Don't take the money if you are pressed into a parade and a cover for hypocrisy. Be the man you are - and have mercy on those who are broken whom the Lord will save until they can bear to eat meat and stop demanding milk - even though we minister to their minds also.

Otherwise I think it is a good idea (sort of like wwoofing?) though you might want to give examples of where this has actually worked elsewhere too.

I dont think there are many kibbutzes left in Israel which is run along similar lines. Many addicts might respond to looking after farm animals, esp horses but I dont know if they can at first be expected to work hard as many will not be in their right minds.

the thing with the rehab being on the island was that if someone was very desperate for a alcohol, they had to swim to the city to get a drink as alcohol was not allowed on the island. .

Well my longstanding theory goes something like: those Christians who are healthy and solid enough to get along in community with people in the real world generally prefer real world interactions and do most of their interacting there. Those who aren't come around online communities and complain about how horrible all the churches and Christians are for rejecting them and usually come across as believing that they believe themselves to be the only one to have discovered "true" Christianity and anyone who disagrees with them isn't really a Christian.

But you gotta remember that many of the people who are most active in such an online Christian forum are the ones who couldn't get along well in church with other real life people.

A guy named "subhumanoidal" shows up on a thread titled "Why are people on this site so rude?" and thumbs down my posts about helping homeless and addicted people in the name of Christ.

He totally lived up to his name on this thread.

I read both your replies. The idea is that they will help with the husbandry and agriculture we decide to manage on the land. We will do our best to incorporate them back into society when they feel they have reached a position of healing and stability - that takes a while for people who've been surviving day to day for years of their lives. Those who are employed will be welcome to stay until they've saved enough to feel comfortable moving into their own place.

Part of my reasoning in starting a farm is that it will be out in the country. If it's in town and all an addict has to do is open the front door to get drugs, it's doomed to failure. A 10-20 mile walk to town gives them time to rethink their decision.

I know it will be difficult and there are challenges I have yet to even think of, but I believe 100% that God is with me on this. It's going to happen.

Subhumanoidal is an old hand in the forum. He is sometimes blunt, but usually right on target. If he says something to you, whether you like it or not, it is advisable to at least listen to what he says.

*shrug

This forum is private property, owned and operated by RoboOp. It's his right to decide what is and is not allowed.

If he decided he didn't want the color orange discussed here, well... it's his forum.

Subhumanoidal is an old hand in the forum. He is sometimes blunt, but usually right on target. If he says something to you, whether you like it or not, it is advisable to at least listen to what he says.

are there not drugdealers in the countryside
drugdealers can deliver, they dont always wait for you to go to them..they are not always in towns.... they have mules, they use mobile phones

just so you are aware, sometimes they hang out in remote areas too. The biggest p labs are in unoccupied holiday homes in richer areas.

A guy named "subhumanoidal" shows up on a thread titled "Why are people on this site so rude?" and thumbs down my posts about helping homeless and addicted people in the name of Christ.

He totally lived up to his name on this thread.