What are UFOs to you?

I will tell yall something weird though. Ive seen more than one shooting star above this small lake near my home. The last one I watched burn up with a final puff above the water. Pretty amazing.

There are thousands of recordings now, and i think the government is trying to come to some kind of acceptable truth or fabricate another lie.
I tend to take Bob Lazar very seriously because he comes across as a very genuine man during his interviews. He has a documentary now on Netflix and you can see that the way that he speaks, and his body language even on his earlier interviews in the 90s is very real and legit.
He is basically saying that the government has some alien tech and it's reverse engineering it. That was his job when he was working on the S4 section of Area51.
One of the gravity based flights that these objects use is called Element 115 according to him.
And he also says that it's sad that the government doesn't release this technology because it would help mankind, but at the same time, if this tech is made public, it would destroy billion dollar industries among them anything involving oil and all it's byproducts.

Yeah, there are enough recordings and sightings reported by normal people not to dismiss things we can't explain. I don't have any idea what they are so I'm not going to say they are angels or something else.

All I know is that God made them too and doesn't feel the need to explain them to us right now. It's fascinating though the idea that there are so many things that the Lord had created that we know nothing about or even understand - a whole vast universe of them!

I hope He will tell us some day though - we will have a whole eternity with Him to learn about everything He made.


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My take is there are two sides at the higher government level. One side knows these are real, but can't/couldn't say anything, because it wouldn't be believed by most anyway, it would be a breach of national security (i.e. likely gaol for life or charges of treason for whistleblowers), and what difference would it make to those few who do believe the whistleblower? (The sort of people who would believe the whistleblowers likely already knew from believing others). The other side also knows these are real, but doesn't want to say anything because there is profit and power where people are ignorant.

However, the side which was content to keep the "alien" (demonic?) agenda secret for profit and power was planning to disclose the truth, and have a big UFO type event (even a false-flag UFO war?) to further consolidate profit and power. The other side - the good guys - are taking this disclosure by the bad guys as an opportunity to reveal the truth to people, and to sabotage the evil side's justification for further war, destruction, profit and power based on UFOs. Hence the net result of government talking about it all of a sudden - some lies, some truth - but net result of further disclosure, given the change in strategy by both sides.

I agree with this.
Government is well known to be compartmentalized so they don't allow regular people to know the whole truth.
Bob Lazar speaks of this in his documentary too. He was escorted to his area without seeing what was going on in other areas.

And a more clear example for anyone who doubts Bob Lazar would be the documentary about Fort Knox.
All the workers in that building, when they did an upgrade in the 70s (i think) were escorted to their area of work and they were not allowed to wonder anywhere else in the building.

So your POV is also something that i have thought about and it's real in any government settings. They're not going to allow a low level worker to go into the room of archives and browse the library so to speak.

ufo's are interesting to me. i've seen some. a cigar, metallic shaped object as a body of an airplane, a tractor trailer 10 times bigger than a normal 1, & a car going down the street with no driver in it. i witnessed the disappearance of a superball, an old toy back in the 60's. for example, if you threw it really hard on a street, it would bounce very very high in the air. it disappeared in our closet, a small room. my brother & i tore the room apart, checking things over & over, no superball found! we looked many more times in the following days. nothing! & no, the window was not open for the ball to fall out of.

I definitely believe it is a demonic agenda. I don't personally believe in aliens from far off worlds in outer space. My personal belief is that they are interdimensional beings (demons). I think we are going to see more and more interesting things unfold.

And your bit about the some lies, some truth is very accurate, in my opinion.
To quote Deep Throat from Xfiles, "A lie, Mr. Mulder, is most convincingly hidden between two truths."

Well, Eli1 He sure will not tell us about area 51!! LOL BUT!!!! He said after talking to some people who are very respectable that he does believe something beyond our knowledge does lurk out there. I think we will learn the truth of the J.F.K. assassination, how much, will depend how upset many will get! I myself who have served in special forces have sure seen some things I cannot explain! Both not just in the air, but on land and sea!! Strange sounds as well. Do I believe in aliens?? I will say this, the universe is vast and to think we are the only people who live in this Galaxy would mean there would be a lot of wasted space! To me as the Word of God says (Luke 1:37) With God nothing is impossible.

the truth has been known for decades on jfk's assassination. but not by many people. you guys & girls on CC ready for a shocker? right now the time is 5:21. if i get 10 responses in the next 10 minutes, it'll tell you all.

I was eating some stollen. Marzipan stollen, to be precise. Sorry I'm late.

No I'm not sorry. It was delicious. I regret nothing.

we're all coming over for dinner!!!

On November 9, 1974, in the small city of Carbondale, Pennsylvania, three teenage boys reported witnessing a “red, whirring ball” descend from the sky and crash into a silt pond near Russell Park.

Thank you Eli1 and Karton for your responses, there are a few things I could say, but am forbidden to revel, mainly because I could not prove it to you. And I always tell the truth! I do believe that President Trump will revel quite a bit even about his own assassination attempt! Our government in every area has been very dark over these last four years, and you can bet there will be quite a bit of surprises given to the Amercian people after Jan 20th! I love truth!! Thanks again for your input!!

trump was suppose to release the real information on jfk's assassination back in 2017 but he didn't probably because of government pressure. no matter to me, but to the public. i have known for decades who planned & shot jfk. i offered, above, to tell CC but no response.

I would like to hear it Karton,I have my own ideas about it but would love to hear your thoughts about it!!

specifically the jfk assassination?

sure whatever.

By the way loved your favorite scripture John 3:33!!

i even have to shorten the short story on this. so joseph kennedy had dreams of 1 of his sons becoming president. kids went to college & got law degrees. since joe was a powerful man, when his son john was running for office, he gathered rich people, big business, politicians, famous & influential people, etc to get votes. it worked, jfk was elected. many mafia men, associates, friends & others associated with the mafia helped to gather votes. so jfk elects his brother robert as attorney general. what's robert do as 1st assignment? he tries to shut the mafia down. mafia says, "hey, wait a minute, we got your brother elected". well, robert still pursued. so men were assembled from europe for the contract to assassinate jfk. the planning took over a year. the plan was perfect. & in a way today, still is, no one was arrested who was involved. the mafia was to smart to get guys fro america where info could be easier to dig up. the guys even went to dallas (under cover, by course ) & practiced the shootout for 2 weeks!!! can you imagine that? tis' true. lee harvey oswald, because of his ignorance & "wannabee" status, was the patsy, in other words, "the throw-off guy". now this next portion is the very massively interesting part. it just so happens by way of nature, that as lucien sarti took his shot on the grassy knoll, a woman snapped a photograph about a second after. his shot blew a portion of kennedy's head off. in the picture, you can see the smoke oozing out of the gun & a figure of lucien sarti. he was recruited from europe because he was a known wacko who would do anything. he was shot & killed in a police shootout in about 1970 to 1971. photo experts took about 5 & a half years to clarify the picture. there's a lot i'm leaving out but that's the main fact. i know this because in high school, i was friends with the son of new york's labor progenitor & organizer & top leader in the union & in the whole northeast. in fact, i'm still friends with him. so don't believe any story out there other than this.

On the UFO news, a LOT has been happening since the lockdowns but i didn't think it would be anything significant in terms of any new reveals. The sightings have become more documented basically.
But Trump, being Trump might actually release something, which is also why i revived this thread. Because of Trump.