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Gojira

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Why did God create such a big universe?
I think there are probably multiple reasons. But, I would say one is to show us that HE is GOD. If the universe is that insanely and incomprehensibly amazing, how much more is He?!?
 

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Why did God create such a big universe?
What's big to us is minor to Him. He's omniscient so doesn't see limits on space. Actually going back to the beginning of Creation is so vast, it's hard to imagine. This video gives and idea of how vast and far back the beginning of Creation is:

It's a beautiful and enlightening ride.
 
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It's a beautiful and enlightening ride.
The Big Bang theory, built upon the equations of classical general relativity, indicates a singularity at the origin of cosmic time, and such an infinite energy density may be a physical impossibility. However, the physical theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics as currently realized are not applicable before the Planck epoch, and correcting this will require the development of a correct treatment of quantum gravity.[20] Certain quantum gravity treatments, such as the Wheeler–DeWitt equation, imply that time itself could be an emergent property.[139] As such, physics may conclude that time did not exist before the Big Bang.[140][141] ..................................................
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Excerpt from Wikipedia article indicates how inaccurately and inconclusively the PURELY SPECULATIVE the approach is which science now follows in trying to determine the origin of what is CLEARLY STATED IN THE BIBLE .....verses Psalm 102 KJV

25Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

26They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:

27But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

28The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.

Underlined in Wiki article regarding 'time'......at least some in the reporting of the dreamers of dreams speculative philosophies 'hint' at truth. Following verse from Genesis 1:14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Beginning of time as we know it as recorded in verse 14 of the 1st chapter Book of Genesis, KJV, version, CLEARLY states time was created on the fourth 'day' and is not an emergent property,
 
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The number you used is miniscule. God's handiwork is no longer available for viewing due to mans' pride in his own 'technology'.
There are approximately 200 billion trillion stars in the universe. Or, to put it another way, 200 sextillion. That's 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000! The number is so big, it's hard to imagine.Oct 4, 2021
According to Flat Earth theory, the sun is much closer and the universe much smaller. Also, the problem of light reaching the Earth from the stars and sun within a day (as indicated in Genesis 1) is resolved. I suspect (globalist/heliocentrist) scientists are claiming the "universe" is much larger than it actually is.

The Earth is still huge, but that is the focus of God's creation (i.e. being home to man), not some random "planets" and "stars" a gazillion light-years away.
 

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I think the universe is so big because God says to us: Here I am, unimaginable big, beyond your understanding. I gave you free will to accept me or reject me.
 

Dino246

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Following verse from Genesis 1:14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Beginning of time as we know it as recorded in verse 14 of the 1st chapter Book of Genesis, KJV, version, CLEARLY states time was created on the fourth 'day' and is not an emergent property,
No, it definitely does not state that, clearly or otherwise.

It says that the lights in the heavens are for seasons, days, and years. They are merely the markers we use to measure and count time. Time itself existed back in verse 1: In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
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No, it definitely does not state that, clearly or otherwise.

It says that the lights in the heavens are for seasons, days, and years. They are merely the markers we use to measure and count time. Time itself existed back in verse 1: In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Seasons, days, and years is time as we know it
 

Eli1

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Time can exist/pass devoid of markers? :unsure:
Markers meaning events? If that’s the classification or definition of Time then I agree.
On a universe where no events happen, Time is meaningless.
 
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Time can exist/pass devoid of markers? :unsure:
Seems the Bible indicates just that God's 'time' we can not comprehend now but our time is limited and we have three score + ten years.
 

TabinRivCA

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The Big Bang theory, built upon the equations of classical general relativity, indicates a singularity at the origin of cosmic time, and such an infinite energy density may be a physical impossibility. However, the physical theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics as currently realized are not applicable before the Planck epoch, and correcting this will require the development of a correct treatment of quantum gravity.[20] Certain quantum gravity treatments, such as the Wheeler–DeWitt equation, imply that time itself could be an emergent property.[139] As such, physics may conclude that time did not exist before the Big Bang.[140][141] ..................................................
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Excerpt from Wikipedia article indicates how inaccurately and inconclusively the PURELY SPECULATIVE the approach is which science now follows in trying to determine the origin of what is CLEARLY STATED IN THE BIBLE .....verses Psalm 102 KJV

25Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

26They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:

27But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

28The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.

Underlined in Wiki article regarding 'time'......at least some in the reporting of the dreamers of dreams speculative philosophies 'hint' at truth. Following verse from Genesis 1:14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Beginning of time as we know it as recorded in verse 14 of the 1st chapter Book of Genesis, KJV, version, CLEARLY states time was created on the fourth 'day' and is not an emergent property,
I'm sure Hugh Ross is aware of all that, he's a learned Christian astrophysicist. The video is amazing in it's capturing of massive galaxies, stars et al going way way way back in time, toward Creation.
 
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I'm sure Hugh Ross is aware of all that, he's a learned Christian astrophysicist. The video is amazing in it's capturing of massive galaxies, stars et al going way way way back in time, toward Creation.
First I heard of him, thnx for mentioning him and here is Wiki link..((((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Ross_(astrophysicist)
Hugh Norman Ross (born July 24, 1945) is a Canadian astrophysicist, Christian apologist, and old-Earth creationist.

Ross obtained his Ph.D. in astronomy from the University of Toronto[1][2][3] and his B.Sc. degree in physics from the University of British Columbia.[4] He established his own ministry in 1986, called Reasons to Believe, which promotes progressive and day-age forms of old-Earth creationism, by developing what the ministry calls a "testable creation model".[5]

Ross rejects both abiogenesis and evolution as explanations for the origin and history of life, contrary to the scientific consensus.[6] Ross' position overlaps with that of the intelligent design, but Ross argues that the evidence points to Jesus Christ as the designer, instead of an undefined intelligent designer.[7][8][9]
 
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Dino246

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Markers meaning events? If that’s the classification or definition of Time then I agree.
On a universe where no events happen, Time is meaningless.
Markers are events, yes, but that's not the definition of time.