If I drink a beer, will I go to Hell?
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AHA! @Nehemiah6 says it's ok to get drunk in moderation! I need scripture and verse!
Sorry.... been spending much too much time in the BDF lately... makes you semi-crazy.
Sorry.... been spending much too much time in the BDF lately... makes you semi-crazy.
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Give strong drink to one who is perishing, and wine to the bitter in soul. Let him
drink and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more. Proverbs 31:6-7 .
drink and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more. Proverbs 31:6-7 .
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Going back to the US drinking laws.
Have you all thought about that treating a young adult as a child, he will then continue to be a child for longer?
Meaning, if you tell someone that he can die for their country at 18, vote at 18 but can’t drink until 21, you‘re sort of insulting him and treating him like a baby.
And this mentality is reflected in college campuses. All the kids in colleges here act like crazy because that’s when they feel grown up. But in other areas of the world they do this in high school. The university is sort of the place for more maturity not immaturity.
Anyway, this is more of a rhetorical question because I know the history behind this stupid law and it’s not going to change but I wanted to mention the obvious again.
Have you all thought about that treating a young adult as a child, he will then continue to be a child for longer?
Meaning, if you tell someone that he can die for their country at 18, vote at 18 but can’t drink until 21, you‘re sort of insulting him and treating him like a baby.
And this mentality is reflected in college campuses. All the kids in colleges here act like crazy because that’s when they feel grown up. But in other areas of the world they do this in high school. The university is sort of the place for more maturity not immaturity.
Anyway, this is more of a rhetorical question because I know the history behind this stupid law and it’s not going to change but I wanted to mention the obvious again.
I have been full circle on this issue. Raised in a home plagued with alcohol abuse, a problem drinker and drunk before my salvation, a partaker in extreme moderation, and now abstaining completely. Here is what I know:
- One shall not get drunk. If that is your idol and lifestyle, you have no place in heaven, as clearly stated in the Bible.
- Alcohol, in moderation, is OK, but one should take care. Wine in biblical times was alcoholic (contrary to what many preach), but diluted at a 3:1 water:wine ratio. It was alcoholic, but diluted so much that one would have to drink many glasses full to become intoxicated at a wedding. It was about half the strength of beer according to https://cfc.sebts.edu/faith-and-culture/was-new-testament-wine-alcoholic/. And it was considered barbaric to drink undiluted wine, which was their “strong drink” since distilled spirits were not around until the Middle Ages.
- One must not tempt the weaker brother (or sister). This means a family member and ALL children. Or a fellow church member struggling with such temptation, which we may or may not be aware of. I have direct experience with this as well.
- Unless I can drink without meeting this very last condition, I will abstain.
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