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That describes many people. Atheists included. LOL. Hey, you just reminded me... you know, some of the atheists I have met online were quite the characters, many of preposterous proportions, like one guy who tried to tell me we (as humans) already knew everything there was to know 
And the guy who told me that scientists could explain how order arose out of chaos, and organic matter out of inorganic material, and what caused the rise of consciousness. The real kicker for me was the one I thought actually was reasonable, and logical, telling me that as Christians we had not examined enough evidence to come to the conclusion that God exists while totally overlooking the fact that nobody could ever examine enough material according to him AND that HE had come to the opposite conclusion, namely, God does not exist, while having not examined all the evidence. There is no such thing as a reasonable atheist on the discussion of things that pertain to that which really matters such as the meaning of life, because GOD is at the core of that by design.
And the guy who told me that scientists could explain how order arose out of chaos, and organic matter out of inorganic material, and what caused the rise of consciousness. The real kicker for me was the one I thought actually was reasonable, and logical, telling me that as Christians we had not examined enough evidence to come to the conclusion that God exists while totally overlooking the fact that nobody could ever examine enough material according to him AND that HE had come to the opposite conclusion, namely, God does not exist, while having not examined all the evidence. There is no such thing as a reasonable atheist on the discussion of things that pertain to that which really matters such as the meaning of life, because GOD is at the core of that by design.
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Eternal conscious torment? No. The wicked PERISH. It is all through Scripture, repeated again and again in a number of ways.
John 3:16
John 3:16
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That describes many people. Atheists included. LOL. Hey, you just reminded me... you know, some of the atheists I have met online were quite the characters, many of preposterous proportions, like one guy who tried to tell me we (as humans) already knew everything there was to know And the guy who told me that scientists could explain how order arose out of chaos, and organic matter out of inorganic material, and what caused the rise of consciousness. The real kicker for me was the one I thought actually was reasonable, and logical, telling me that as Christians we had not examined enough evidence to come to the conclusion that God exists while totally overlooking the fact that nobody could ever examine enough material according to him AND that HE had come to the opposite conclusion, namely, God does not exist, while having not examined all the evidence. There is no such thing as a reasonable atheist on the discussion of things that pertain to that which really matters such as the meaning of life, because GOD is at the core of that by design.
And the guy who told me that scientists could explain how order arose out of chaos, and organic matter out of inorganic material, and what caused the rise of consciousness. The real kicker for me was the one I thought actually was reasonable, and logical, telling me that as Christians we had not examined enough evidence to come to the conclusion that God exists while totally overlooking the fact that nobody could ever examine enough material according to him AND that HE had come to the opposite conclusion, namely, God does not exist, while having not examined all the evidence. There is no such thing as a reasonable atheist on the discussion of things that pertain to that which really matters such as the meaning of life, because GOD is at the core of that by design.
Oh. Well, Biblically the wicked are more apt to be defined as those who reject God. In the final analysis, at least.
2 Timothy 3:2-4
For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
Deuteronomy 32:5
"They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children,
because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation.
(Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in
his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- John 1:12)
Romans 1:29
being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil;
full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
Psalm 14:1
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God " They are corrupt, they
have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.
Acts 7:51
"You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are
always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.
2 Timothy 3:8
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose
the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith
2 Timothy 3:2-4
For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
Deuteronomy 32:5
"They have acted corruptly toward Him, They are not His children,
because of their defect; But are a perverse and crooked generation.
(Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in
his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- John 1:12)
Romans 1:29
being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil;
full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,
Psalm 14:1
The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God " They are corrupt, they
have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.
Acts 7:51
"You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are
always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.
2 Timothy 3:8
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose
the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith
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Sometimes that's why it's hard to open yourself up to people.
They kind of put that judgment on you and make assumptions.
No matter how you come across, People should know that none of us are perfect.
We all have something in our lives that makes us human. Christian or not.
God intended us to have flaws and not be perfect. As long as we follow Him, that's what makes the flaws acceptable.
They kind of put that judgment on you and make assumptions.
No matter how you come across, People should know that none of us are perfect.
We all have something in our lives that makes us human. Christian or not.
God intended us to have flaws and not be perfect. As long as we follow Him, that's what makes the flaws acceptable.
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Yes, some Christians probably are. Those are the ones who need to find a way to grow in their faith. If something in your life is making you unhappy, the best thing to do look more into your faith and beliefs. Either you can control something or you can't. What you can control, find the best way to do so.
What you can't control, let Jesus take the wheel.
What you can't control, let Jesus take the wheel.
I think both can experience the same kind and same amount of joy.
The only difference I see, is when hardship hits, the Christian has God to turn to because they believe. For a non-believer, when hardship hits, it could be more difficult for them to overcome it, because they won't turn to God, who really does help us, even if we don't see it. I think He helps us all, regardless of if we accept Him.
I do think both can have great joy in their lives.
It's how you handle the bad times.
The only difference I see, is when hardship hits, the Christian has God to turn to because they believe. For a non-believer, when hardship hits, it could be more difficult for them to overcome it, because they won't turn to God, who really does help us, even if we don't see it. I think He helps us all, regardless of if we accept Him.
I do think both can have great joy in their lives.
It's how you handle the bad times.
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I would be more inclined to say that God made us to be perfected in the likeness of His Son
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God did allow for man to choose not to follow Him, to be disobedient, to choose to go their own way, and reject Him, but we also know that Scripture teaches that state of being, of being born in Adam, is one of hostility toward God, being His enemy. Only those who repent and believe are saved, regenerated, born again of the Spirit, and raised to new life, a life more abundant, life ever after, through Jesus.
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