a woman's whisper speaks louder to a man than her roar

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Jullianna

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1 PETER 3:4 - Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.

The title of this thread is probably the single best piece of advice my momma (Yes, we southern ladies say "Momma". It's a term of endearment to us. :) ) ever gave me when it comes to men. Ladies, how many of our friends have ever been upset about a thing and said something like this, "Well, I'm just gonna go home and tell him how it is!!" And then others will stay stuff like, "That's right girl! You tell him!" When I see/hear stuff like that (yep...I've even heard it in churches and on CC), I think....argggh...good luck with that.

First of all, ladies, do you really WANT a spineless man? Really??? Think about that and get back to me because that's what you'll have if you keep beating down his love for you with that sort of junk. Either that or a GONE man.

If you want a man, ANY MAN...let me say it again...ANY MAN to REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYY listen to you, remember this one.key.word: RESPECT. Why? Because:

1. Respect is important to men. They NEED it. If you don't get anything else out of this post, take that part with you. They need it so much that it's one of the two things God wants us to do for them; and

2. Men will NOT process or take to heart the words of a woman they do not respect. A little switch in their heads turns off the connection to their brains when a woman they have no respect for begins to speak, and all they hear is something akin to Charlie Brown's teacher. (a good thing to remember if you wanna throw a tantrum in the middle of a christian chatroom as well because the guys won't listen to you)

So, the next time you feel the itch to go tell your man how a thing is gonna be, consider these things first:

1. Is this really beneficial to our relationship or is my girlpower pride all swelled up and making me selfish? If it's selfish junk, don't take it to your man. If you have a godly man, he deserves better.

2. If it IS of value, pick.your.moment. Timing is key when it comes to men, IF you want them to actually hear you. ;) Standing in front of the tv during the best moment of the game will not benefit your cause. When you have your man's time and full attention, why not start off softly with something like, "You know, baby, what do you think about....." ? What they hear when THOSE words hit their ears is that you respect what they think and they'll love you for it. Trust me on this.

Bottom line, if you want your man to BE a real man, be a lady for him. We know that Peter was a married man, so he knew what would be pleasing to God and of value to men in marriage firsthand. Think about Peter's wife for a minute if you will. :) This woman saw her husband drop his nets and follow after the Savior, and she supported him completely in this. :)

(Yes, Momma, I still hear your voice in my head sometimes. Thank God :) )

P.S. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know someone is going to, at some point, come at this with the whole abusive man thing, but, men who respect you, don't abuse you. :) I hope they read this far. :) Take your time and find one who DOES respect women, treasure his respect, and that won't be a problem for you. Head that junk off at the pass. If you meet a he-man, bad boy, "babygirl, sorry I hit you, but I'll NEVER do it again" type, RUN. Maybe if enough woman dump him rather than enable him, he'll figure out that getting some help with his issues is better than being alone.





 

JimJimmers

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What about abusive men? There, I said it. :)

Excellent post, thank you for posting it.
 
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Jullianna

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Thanks, Jim :) Whew! We can move on past that now :D
 
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arwen7

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First of all, ladies, do you really WANT a spineless man? Really??? Think about that and get back to me because that's what you'll have if you keep beating down his love for you with that sort of junk. Either that or a GONE man.

If you want a man, ANY MAN...let me say it again...ANY MAN to REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYY listen to you, remember this one.key.word: RESPECT. Why? Because:

1. Respect is important to men. They NEED it. If you don't get anything else out of this post, take that part with you. They need it so much that it's one of the two things God wants us to do for them; and

2. Men will NOT process or take to heart the words of a woman they do not respect. A little switch in their heads turns off the connection to their brains when a woman they have no respect for begins to speak, and all they hear is something akin to Charlie Brown's teacher. (a good thing to remember if you wanna throw a tantrum in the middle of a christian chatroom as well because the guys won't listen to you)



I agree with you! The way some women talk about men really frustrates me.
This is my opinion here but, I think a lot of the feminist movement has lead to male passivity (and disrespect for males in general) in the relationship and home. I think the power has gotten to the females heads. There is no longer just a desire for equality, but to be the sex in power. I wonder if there will ever be a masculinist movement...:eek:

Yep, I went there :rolleyes:
 
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Jullianna

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LOL arwen! :)

Please join me in the, yes, we are ladies who went there club! If we want our marriages, families and the Church as a whole to be stronger, we have to!

P.S. - It will make US stronger too, as His strength is made perfect in our weakness. :)
 
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Wow, just wow.
 

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If you want a man, ANY MAN...let me say it again...ANY MAN to REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYY listen to you, remember this one.key.word: RESPECT. Why? Because:

1. Respect is important to men. They NEED it. If you don't get anything else out of this post, take that part with you. They need it so much that it's one of the two things God wants us to do for them; and

2. Men will NOT process or take to heart the words of a woman they do not respect. A little switch in their heads turns off the connection to their brains when a woman they have no respect for begins to speak, and all they hear is something akin to Charlie Brown's teacher. (a good thing to remember if you wanna throw a tantrum in the middle of a christian chatroom as well because the guys won't listen to you)
Being respected is one of the basic needs of men just like being loved is for women. This is why Paul admonishes men to love their wives and women to respect their husbands in Ephesians 5:21-33. Most women don't comprehend that a man needs the respect of his wife in the same way that she needs his love. Ladies think about it for a minute....how would you feel if you thought your husband didn't love you.....that's how he will feel if he thinks you don't respect him. I think the greater issue for men is not losing respect for their wives, but feeling as if they are not respected by their wives.

For those of you that are looking for reading material, Love and Respect by Dr Emerson Eggerichs goes into great detail about this subject. My folks who have been married for 47 years took a class based on the book a year ago and their comment was, "we wish we had known this 40 plus years ago, it would have saved us a lot of trouble."


 

Pheonix

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I think the biggest problem these days is that women have got it in there heads that men are extraneous unneeded, and unpleasant things they have to deal with. Many have the idea that its degrading to be wife's and mother's. I actually had a woman scream at me that she didn't need a man to hold a door open, because I held a door open for her since she was a couple feet behind me. So I told her right there that next time I'd shut it in her face. Her only response to that was to stand there blinking for a few minutes like her brain couldn't process intelligent and logical thought.

So the gist of this is that if you want a man to behave in an engaged and caring manner, don't treat him like he is extraneous and unneeded. If you do, he'll sit in front of the tv as soon as he gets home from work and ignore you the rest of the evening at best. Sleep around on you and/or become abusive at worst.
 
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First of all, ladies, do you really WANT a spineless man? Really??? Think about that and get back to me because that's what you'll have if you keep beating down his love for you with that sort of junk. Either that or a GONE man.

If you want a man, ANY MAN...let me say it again...ANY MAN to REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYY listen to you, remember this one.key.word: RESPECT. Why? Because:

1. Respect is important to men. They NEED it. If you don't get anything else out of this post, take that part with you. They need it so much that it's one of the two things God wants us to do for them; and

2. Men will NOT process or take to heart the words of a woman they do not respect. A little switch in their heads turns off the connection to their brains when a woman they have no respect for begins to speak, and all they hear is something akin to Charlie Brown's teacher. (a good thing to remember if you wanna throw a tantrum in the middle of a christian chatroom as well because the guys won't listen to you)



I agree with you! The way some women talk about men really frustrates me.
This is my opinion here but, I think a lot of the feminist movement has lead to male passivity (and disrespect for males in general) in the relationship and home. I think the power has gotten to the females heads. There is no longer just a desire for equality, but to be the sex in power. I wonder if there will ever be a masculinist movement...:eek:

Yep, I went there :rolleyes:
The Art of Manliness | Men’s Interests and Lifestyle

Not a socio-political movement. May it never become one.
 
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Jullianna

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I think the biggest problem these days is that women have got it in there heads that men are extraneous unneeded, and unpleasant things they have to deal with. Many have the idea that its degrading to be wife's and mother's. I actually had a woman scream at me that she didn't need a man to hold a door open, because I held a door open for her since she was a couple feet behind me. So I told her right there that next time I'd shut it in her face. Her only response to that was to stand there blinking for a few minutes like her brain couldn't process intelligent and logical thought.

So the gist of this is that if you want a man to behave in an engaged and caring manner, don't treat him like he is extraneous and unneeded. If you do, he'll sit in front of the tv as soon as he gets home from work and ignore you the rest of the evening at best. Sleep around on you and/or become abusive at worst.
A perfect illustration of the difference between a woman and a lady :(
 
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imperfection

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This is such a great topic, Jullianna!

It is so true. I talked to a lot of elder women that are married and I was so shocked to hear how most of the women were talking about men in general, but especially their man.

So I got scared a little bit, because I thought....wow, those women would actually advice me to never get married and never fall in love with a man cause men are evil, but to be honest, I try to shut my ears to such statements, because I really really want to be in love and experience a love story like God only can provide.

It's disgusting how some "modern & independant women" belittle men and think of them as the devil in person...

I can't wait to be able to love and respect my hubby and be the best that has ever happened to him....
I am still young, I might also be naive, I still have a lot to learn....but my men will be awesome <3<3
 

Pheonix

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This is such a great topic, Jullianna!

It is so true. I talked to a lot of elder women that are married and I was so shocked to hear how most of the women were talking about men in general, but especially their man.

So I got scared a little bit, because I thought....wow, those women would actually advice me to never get married and never fall in love with a man cause men are evil, but to be honest, I try to shut my ears to such statements, because I really really want to be in love and experience a love story like God only can provide.

It's disgusting how some "modern & independant women" belittle men and think of them as the devil in person...

I can't wait to be able to love and respect my hubby and be the best that has ever happened to him....
I am still young, I might also be naive, I still have a lot to learn....but my men will be awesome <3<3
Your men???? Planning on having several are you?
 
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Jullianna

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This is such a great topic, Jullianna!

It is so true. I talked to a lot of elder women that are married and I was so shocked to hear how most of the women were talking about men in general, but especially their man.

So I got scared a little bit, because I thought....wow, those women would actually advice me to never get married and never fall in love with a man cause men are evil, but to be honest, I try to shut my ears to such statements, because I really really want to be in love and experience a love story like God only can provide.

It's disgusting how some "modern & independant women" belittle men and think of them as the devil in person...

I can't wait to be able to love and respect my hubby and be the best that has ever happened to him....
I am still young, I might also be naive, I still have a lot to learn....but my men will be awesome <3<3
You are wise not to listen to them. I'm not saying that all men are wonderful or anything like that, as they are most certainly not all alike any more than we are. I'm just saying that if you don't take the time to get to know one another and get together for the wrong reasons, this is the sort of thing that can happen.

All couple have their rough spots, but they don't have to be as bad as we make them sometimes.

I have to say the thing that bothers me most is when a woman is critical of her man in front of other people. It's embarrassing for everyone present.

You are young, but, on certain levels, naivete can be a thing to treasure. I pray your future husband is awesome. :)
 
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imperfection

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Your men???? Planning on having several are you?
Oh man, typo....Good, Lord help my english skills :D I meant man, ONE, the ONE AND ONLY......<3
 
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kayem77

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Oh man, typo....Good, Lord help my english skills :D I meant man, ONE, the ONE AND ONLY......<3
Haha I feel ya, I've had my funny typos before...sometimes when I'm speaking I get so confused switching from Spanish to English or English to Spanish that I end up making up new words . I think this makes people laugh so...it's okay :D
 
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Crossfire

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1 PETER 3:4 - Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight.

The title of this thread is probably the single best piece of advice my momma (Yes, we southern ladies say "Momma". It's a term of endearment to us. :) ) ever gave me when it comes to men. Ladies, how many of our friends have ever been upset about a thing and said something like this, "Well, I'm just gonna go home and tell him how it is!!" And then others will stay stuff like, "That's right girl! You tell him!" When I see/hear stuff like that (yep...I've even heard it in churches and on CC), I think....argggh...good luck with that.

First of all, ladies, do you really WANT a spineless man? Really??? Think about that and get back to me because that's what you'll have if you keep beating down his love for you with that sort of junk. Either that or a GONE man.

If you want a man, ANY MAN...let me say it again...ANY MAN to REEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLYYYY listen to you, remember this one.key.word: RESPECT. Why? Because:

1. Respect is important to men. They NEED it. If you don't get anything else out of this post, take that part with you. They need it so much that it's one of the two things God wants us to do for them; and

2. Men will NOT process or take to heart the words of a woman they do not respect. A little switch in their heads turns off the connection to their brains when a woman they have no respect for begins to speak, and all they hear is something akin to Charlie Brown's teacher. (a good thing to remember if you wanna throw a tantrum in the middle of a christian chatroom as well because the guys won't listen to you)

So, the next time you feel the itch to go tell your man how a thing is gonna be, consider these things first:

1. Is this really beneficial to our relationship or is my girlpower pride all swelled up and making me selfish? If it's selfish junk, don't take it to your man. If you have a godly man, he deserves better.

2. If it IS of value, pick.your.moment. Timing is key when it comes to men, IF you want them to actually hear you. ;) Standing in front of the tv during the best moment of the game will not benefit your cause. When you have your man's time and full attention, why not start off softly with something like, "You know, baby, what do you think about....." ? What they hear when THOSE words hit their ears is that you respect what they think and they'll love you for it. Trust me on this.

Bottom line, if you want your man to BE a real man, be a lady for him. We know that Peter was a married man, so he knew what would be pleasing to God and of value to men in marriage firsthand. Think about Peter's wife for a minute if you will. :) This woman saw her husband drop his nets and follow after the Savior, and she supported him completely in this. :)

(Yes, Momma, I still hear your voice in my head sometimes. Thank God :) )

P.S. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know someone is going to, at some point, come at this with the whole abusive man thing, but, men who respect you, don't abuse you. :) I hope they read this far. :) Take your time and find one who DOES respect women, treasure his respect, and that won't be a problem for you. Head that junk off at the pass. If you meet a he-man, bad boy, "babygirl, sorry I hit you, but I'll NEVER do it again" type, RUN. Maybe if enough woman dump him rather than enable him, he'll figure out that getting some help with his issues is better than being alone.
A post like this deserves a huge & hardy...

 
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R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Take care, TCB

Sock it to me, sock it to me,
sock it to me, sock it to me..

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GRA

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Oncefallen said:
Being respected is one of the basic needs of men just like being loved is for women. This is why Paul admonishes men to love their wives and women to respect their husbands in Ephesians 5:21-33. Most women don't comprehend that a man needs the respect of his wife in the same way that she needs his love. Ladies think about it for a minute....how would you feel if you thought your husband didn't love you.....that's how he will feel if he thinks you don't respect him. I think the greater issue for men is not losing respect for their wives, but feeling as if they are not respected by their wives.
"Very Well Said"

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GRA

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Jullianna said:
I have to say the thing that bothers me most is when a woman is critical of her man in front of other people.
Exactly --- because it "runs directly against" the aforementioned respect...

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