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Laodicea

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Does the SDA church believe that 7th day sabbath keeping is a mark of the true church? Their pamplets do say that if im not mistaken.

Now the word says that ceasing from our own work is the sign of the true church.

I see this being the fundamental issue here. The sabbath rest found in Christ is part of the bedrock of the faith.

The Bible says:-
Exodus 20:6
(6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


If Christ is our Sabbath it will be shown by keeping His Sabbath
 

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The Bible says:-
Exodus 20:6
(6) And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


If Christ is our Sabbath it will be shown by keeping His Sabbath
How do you keep His sabbath?
 
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Laodicea

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How do you keep His sabbath?
Here are some good texts about sabbath keeping
Isaiah 58:13-14
(13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
(14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

 
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Laodicea

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As people will see we have nothing to hide. Read posts or ask a question.
 
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Closemyeyes2cU

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I was quickly scanning through this thread and found this. Is there any truth to it?

"They revere their founding prophetess, Ellen G. White, and made this statement in their

"Ministry" Magazine of Oct. 1981 and have never retracted it.

"We believe the revelation and inspiration of both the Bible and Ellen White's writings to

be of equal quality. The superintendence of the Holy Spirit was just as careful and

thorough in one as the other".

In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
 
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LawofLove

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I was quickly scanning through this thread and found this. Is there any truth to it?

"They revere their founding prophetess, Ellen G. White, and made this statement in their

"Ministry" Magazine of Oct. 1981 and have never retracted it.

"We believe the revelation and inspiration of both the Bible and Ellen White's writings to

be of equal quality. The superintendence of the Holy Spirit was just as careful and

thorough in one as the other".

In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
Relationship of E. G. White Writings to Bible--The Lesser Light.
Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.--The Review and Herald, Jan. 20, 1903. (Quoted in Colporteur Ministry, p. 125.) Tested by the Bible.The Spirit was not given-- nor can it ever be bestowed--to supersede the Bible; for the Scriptures explicitly state that the Word of God is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. . . . Isaiah declares, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isa. 8:20).--The Great Controversy, Introduction, p. vii.White, Ellen Gould: Selected Messages From the Writings of Ellen G. White, Book 3; Selected Messages, Book 3. Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1980; 2002, S. 30
 
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Closemyeyes2cU

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Relationship of E. G. White Writings to Bible--The Lesser Light.
Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.--The Review and Herald, Jan. 20, 1903. (Quoted in Colporteur Ministry, p. 125.) Tested by the Bible.The Spirit was not given-- nor can it ever be bestowed--to supersede the Bible; for the Scriptures explicitly state that the Word of God is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. . . . Isaiah declares, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isa. 8:20).--The Great Controversy, Introduction, p. vii.White, Ellen Gould: Selected Messages From the Writings of Ellen G. White, Book 3; Selected Messages, Book 3. Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1980; 2002, S. 30
I'm not asking if the Seven Day Adventist believe that Ellen Whites writing's superseded the Bible, I'm asking do you believe it is "equal" to the Bible. In other words, do you believe that everything she taught was always "perfectly" in line with scripture?
 
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@gotme

what are your views on Baptism? is water baptism needed to this day for repentance?
did Jesus asked us to baptise through prayer and believe or be immersed in water?
is Dec 25 the right day to celebrate Christmas?
 
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Here are some good texts about sabbath keeping
Isaiah 58:13-14
(13) If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
(14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

could you post all the mosiac texts on keeping sabbath please?
 
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Relationship of E. G. White Writings to Bible--The Lesser Light.
Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.--The Review and Herald, Jan. 20, 1903. (Quoted in Colporteur Ministry, p. 125.) Tested by the Bible.The Spirit was not given-- nor can it ever be bestowed--to supersede the Bible; for the Scriptures explicitly state that the Word of God is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. . . . Isaiah declares, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isa. 8:20).--The Great Controversy, Introduction, p. vii.White, Ellen Gould: Selected Messages From the Writings of Ellen G. White, Book 3; Selected Messages, Book 3. Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1980; 2002, S. 30
has the SDA church revised their position here?

"The writings of Mrs. White were never designed to be an addition to the canon of Scripture. They are, nevertheless, the messages of God to the remnant church and should be received as such as were the messages of the prophets of old. As Samuel was a prophet to Israel in his day, as Jeremiah was a prophet to Israel in the days of the captivity, as John the Baptist came as a special messenger of the Lord to prepare the way for Christ’s appearing, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the Church of Christ today. And the same as the messages of the prophets were received in olden times, so her messages should be received at the present time." (Review and Herald, October 4, 1928).
 
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LawofLove

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Baptism by immersed is the only real "water" baptism. Christmas is a made up day by man.
 
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As people will see we have nothing to hide. Read posts or ask a question.
do you accept Ellen White as she portrays herself here?
if not, why not?



The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. In arraying yourself against the servants of God you are doing a work either for God or for the devil.
Testimonies, Vol. 4, p.230

Yet, now when I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You thereby insulted the Spirit of God.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.64

If you lessen the confidence of God’s people in the testimonies He has sent them, you are rebelling against God as were Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
Testimonies , Vol.5, p.66

In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision, the precious rays of light shining from the throne.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.67
 
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Laodicea

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do you accept Ellen White as she portrays herself here?
if not, why not?



The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. In arraying yourself against the servants of God you are doing a work either for God or for the devil.
Testimonies, Vol. 4, p.230

Yet, now when I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You thereby insulted the Spirit of God.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.64

If you lessen the confidence of God’s people in the testimonies He has sent them, you are rebelling against God as were Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
Testimonies , Vol.5, p.66

In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision, the precious rays of light shining from the throne.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.67
What are the point of your questions? It looks like to be critical? Did you read the OP? It says Bible questions only.
 
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Laodicea

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Hi, as I said I am a Seventh Day Adventist. The only reason this question answer post is here is because I have seen many people throw things at my Faith without really knowing what we believe.

So I will be answering any Bible questions you have if I can. Repeat BIBLE questions. Everything I believe and that my Church teaches is firmly based in Scripture and no where else.

Now I have a lot on my plate so please be patient with me. This post is not designed to argue but rather help those who wish to better understand our position. You do not have to agree with me in any way. I will however be using the bible to answer any questions. so if you need to discuss anything with me about a topic that you think I am wrong in then feel free. but use your Bible. I will not pay any heed to those who come in here and rant on their soap box without scripture to back them up.

In other words, lets be Christian about this. I have no need nor want to put others down. and will not respond to put downs and unchristian behaviour.

One other thing. I am a Seventh Day Adventist Pastor, and one thing I have learnt is that most Professed Seventh Day Adventists do not know what we actually believe. Why do I say this? Because While you may have read things about us and done some study. chances are, you don't understand half as much about our teaching as you think you do.

I do not pretend to know everything about how other faiths believe even though I used to be a pentecostal. I am not ignorant enough to think that I know them because I once was one. so please afford me the same respect.

That being said, May God bless us all as we draw closer to Him in truth and in Spirit.
I am re-posting this so people know the OP
 
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What are the point of your questions? It looks like to be critical? Did you read the OP? It says Bible questions only.
oh i see.
so extra-biblical revelation and prophetess ellen is off the table.

alright.
could you show where the sign of the sabbath (4th) is the seal of God?
 
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LawofLove

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do you accept Ellen White as she portrays herself here?
if not, why not?



The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil. In arraying yourself against the servants of God you are doing a work either for God or for the devil.
Testimonies, Vol. 4, p.230

Yet, now when I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You thereby insulted the Spirit of God.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.64

If you lessen the confidence of God’s people in the testimonies He has sent them, you are rebelling against God as were Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
Testimonies , Vol.5, p.66

In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision, the precious rays of light shining from the throne.
Testimonies, Vol. 5, p.67
You should read these more in context.
 
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Why? Why not read them for yourself?
i have.
that's why i know those who claim to be obeying and keeping the Law, specifically the Sabbath (4th) are Law-breakers and are not keeping it at all. any of it.

James 2 10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point, he hath become guilty of all;
 
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You should read these more in context.
i have.
did you have a comment on them?
what do i need to know about "context"?

was she inspired as a prophet equal to the prophets of old as she claimed?
 
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LawofLove

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i have.
did you have a comment on them?
what do i need to know about "context"?

was she inspired as a prophet equal to the prophets of old as she claimed?
Ok if you read it then you know she said and I quote " If you are thoroughly convinced that God has not spoken by us, why not act in accordance with your faith"