Have you ever heard of Dr. Steven Grier? He's not a Christian, he's a scientist.
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Have you ever heard of Dr. Steven Grier? He's not a Christian, he's a scientist.
Yes, this is also a possibility.
For example, there's a place in USA called Skinwalker Ranch which is littered with paranormal and UFO activity. Cameramen who used to record for a special on History channel about this place, got skinmarks and skinburns when they entered certain dark underground areas and they left the documentary because they were having bad dreams too.
These sort of unholy places exist around the world too.
I have not heard about him but i did a quick search and he's on the same line of thinking as mine ... more or less.
He's looking at things from a historical perspective and political implications ... such as free energy which would change the world order.
This is something that Bob Lazar has mentioned too.
I think I was pretty clear that I don't necessairly agree with all that is said so no idea what you are on about with the linebacker
I also didn't make it mandatory for anyone to watch so dismiss it, or not, doesn't matter to me one way or another
If you know anything about me, you know faith, the salvation journey, and how God and the Holy spirit work is really all I want to talk about .
This topic isn't something I'm used to talking about publicly. Im going to need a little time to feel im supposed to drop this understanding, in the miscellaneous section of your site.
OK so now I'm pinebeach again. LOL!
He discusses 3 possibilities if I remember correctly but at the end I was like.....ummm....does not satisfy my own thoughts really. I'm not sure I buy the demon scenerio for everything but then again, I am also pretty much convinced there are other spirits that are not demons but not 'good' either.
Yeah I have an interest in it. Actually when I was about oh.....8 or 9...was spending the summer with my cousins at our country home in the Laurentian mountains in the province of Quebec. We were getting ready for bed but my grandmother, (who was looking after us)who had been outside, called to us to come out and look at something.
The night sky was clear, filled with stars (in the country) and she pointed at something that was ascending at an angle of about 35 degrees (I remember very clearly even back to that age) and it just kept going up into the sky until we could not see it any longer. This was before the whole UFO thing was as blown up as it is now. It was not a plane. It was a consistent glowing white and did not vary in speed or degree of ascent.
That's all I know.
The linebacker was Ai not accepting your nik.
It won't allow me to type your Nik for some reason.
It was kinda funny anyway but you did manage to get my forum ID out the next post. But what do you think about what I saw?
Feel free to share your thoughts since this topic isn't as much as a taboo anymore as it was decades ago.
When commercial or air force pilots saw strange things in the skies before, they wouldn't say anything because they might lose their jobs.
But now these things are encouraged to report and Pentagon even devised a procees or reporting if i remember correctly from the last documentary with Luis Elizondo.
Also, this isn't my site by the way ... i'm just a guest here like you.
Eli, your one of few members here that I get a good vibe from. You did make a comment that led me to think your one of the covert moderators here. I'm not in anyone's loop due to my understanding of Faith and how it's applied, so I'm in the dark about that.
Anyway, none of that is important .
Did you happen to see the thread i posted on Job. 1:7? Where is asked for a reason if Job 1:7 meant in or on the earth?
No sir, i am not one of the moderators here. I'm just another guy who joined during the covid pandemic when we were all in lockdowns and I've been here ever since. Soon it will be time for me to go but for now i'm still checking with this site which in my opinion is the best moderated Christian site compared to others I've visited since Covid.
I don't visit the other sites anymore.
I just checked your other topic about Job 1:7 and yes it's a possibility like i said that some of these entities are demonic.
It's an unknown area for me and i don't have the answers.
Another angle to the alien abductions stories is the same angle we humans use to put an animal to sleep when we want to help it or worse, experiment on it. Except that they might do it with more advanced means.
Which is why my original thought of Observe and Report to their original home planet is something I've come up with since we do this to our animals here in this planet, being that we are the superior species.
But, there are other phenomenon related in the shuffle to this which is clearly demonic, like the story where Jesus casts out evil spirits in Mark 1:21-34 or Matthew 8:28-34
So this whole thing is unknown because it's very difficult to study.
Allow me eli to lay down some bread crumbs so I don't give you everything at once and you just blow me off.
In Job. 1:7, the original Hebrew uses the word "in" the earth. That satan is in the earth. Are you ok with that? We know he's everywhere in his God given restraints. But can you accept that he is "in" the earth, just as it says?
Yes, he could be in Earth and everywhere where God has given him restraints. But when we humans leave in space to fix the international space station or when we went to the Moon, i'm pretty sure that his house is not on the Earth only.
I want to make sure we're on the same page. You said on the earth only. I'm saying he is inside the earth. Im not going to guess what it's like for him to exist in there. But if your okay with that first step, I'll try the next one.
And remember, ive never tried to explain what I think is the truth about this to anyone before.
So if your good so far, here's my next point.
I think satan is the master of technology. I think his technology is one of his greatest weapons. I think he is trying to mimic what God creates with speaking, using technology.
Question. What would be an advantage for satan inside the earth, that would give him a necessary piece of the technology puzzle. A piece every country is fighting for?
Hmm, i don't know. Gold?
I do agree with your technology point because it relates to the Tree of Knowledge in The Garden where in the Genesis it says "Man has become one of us".
It also relates to the Tower of Babel where we, in our folly, think that we will reach God through technology.
But i don't know the advantage of why satan might be inside Earth. Gold? Or is it something else?
What's the one thing that is necessary for all our technology? Critical elements and raw materials. Satan would have everything he needs to manufacture the uaps, entities inside the earth. I think the greatest lie that satan is banking on , is that we as people think that the ETs and their crafts are coming from outerspace. When in reality, there coming from inside the earth, right underneath us.
Their not really another race from another civilization, their being manufactured by satan for a specific purpose. Their high tech robots. Higher tech than we can even imagine.
For 100s of years he's been leaking out little crumbs of technology to mankind expecting that mankind will advance to certain points.
This is where Steven Grier comes in handy. He has over 800 whistleblowers that have been part of this world wide cabal, that has technologies 100 years more advanced than we have now. It's all to prevent one thing.
Care to take a guess. Are you still with me?
Okay, keep going.
There's another class of UFOs which are called Unidentified Underwater Objects. These things fly in the air with techniques which none of our planes can do, they have shapes which makes flying as we know it impossible (they're round so there's no aerodynamic airflow) and then submerge into water with high speed all the while with no heat signature. Some of these are recorded in the recent release of UFOs or UAPs.
But, what's the purpose of satan creating all this in your view?
Also, i will be signing off shortly and i don't know if i'll be back tonight but should check in tomorrow.
Thanks for sharing your views and God bless.