You remember her?
She was banned in 2017 I think it was, and then came back again and now back again.
Loss of salvation???
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You remember her?
She was banned in 2017 I think it was, and then came back again and now back again.
Yep. I watched this forum for years before I joined it. I only joined this one after the ones I participated in went full blown woke.
Jeff? Lmao
This is hilarious. Thank you for the inspiration.
I will call him Jeff starting from today.
Yes, I remember doing the same now that you mention it.
The "Not By Works" was a thread with a lot of drama.
We will see if this one can catch up.
You should learn to understand what you are reading.
I never said babies came from the sample place one passes gas from
I posted that information, but you cherry picker types don't believe al;l the Lord says in His Word so you people think drinking booze and suicide aren't sinful behavior
The future don't look too bright for you bud.
We for sure have to use all of HIS word and put it together like a puzzle and ALL of the peices have to fit!! ALL OF THEM.
Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
You have eyes and ears,
Jeremiah 5:21 Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:
FYI, I don't think you are foolish.
So what are you going to do now?
We all have came short, here is a story of some folks who repented when they were going down the wrong road.
Acts 2:37-41
King James Version
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Has your heart been pricked?
WILL YOU GLADLY RECEIVED HIS WORD?
To some extent, you're correct. However, Abraham was an important example of faith, along with many others throughout our history among the great prophets, not to mention Christ Jesus Himself having been sent unto us through whom salvation came to mankind. Because of our status as His chosen people for events and a Kingdom that will one day be realized on this earth, I would hope Gentiles would be more respectful and loving rather than to paint us all with the same coloring as for those who are indeed deserving of your derision.
So, please be careful when casting disparaging comments against a people whom you should be praying for rather than putting down with such broad brush strokes of veiled condemnation. My appeals absolutely are not an attempt to uphold all the known scoundrels throughout our history. I could say the same of you in relation to Gentiles...that you still sin to this very day, as do all others in this world. We all are still beholden to ancient Israel because of the unfathomable blessings and the Kingdom promised to Israel that will one day be realized in the near future. You and even I as an Israeli won't be there in that city, but those who will have in their number men whose stature you couldn't even hope to aspire in this life.
I pray for my fellow Jews and for Gentiles alike, loving all in spite of the scoundrels and scum among us.
MM
Amen! Either we are depending 100% on Jesus' finished work of redemption as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. (Acts 10:43; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; Romans 1:16; 3:24-26; 4:5-6; 1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 15:1-4; 2 Corinthians 5:21 etc..).
Matthew 7:21-23
King James Version
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
John 14:15-31
King James Version
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
What JESUS did has nothing to do with what we do!!
It's called free will.
Sure thing.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
One cannot be saved if their sins are not remitted. We today are not under that requirement for water baptism for the remission of our sins today as they were back then before the fall of Israel. That item, therefore, is a defining element for the Kingdom Gospel they were under at that time.
Our sins are remitted not on the basis of obedience to the requirement for water baptism because we are under the Gospel of Grace. This Gospel, defined in 1 Cor. 15:1-4 doesn't contain the requirement for water baptism as the twelve laid down as a requirement upon Israel in Acts 2.
Paul, then, had sole, initial ownership as the one through whon his gospel was revealed directly from Christ Jesus. His gospel is the one that, had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory, as scripture clearly states. Where it true there are those who claim the gospel is singular, they do so at the expense for denial of the clearly defined elements between that which was preached by Jesus and the twelve and what was preached by Paul through direct instruction and inspiration.
Does that help?
MM
No, my friend. You conveniently left out verse 38 in Acts 2. Also, the middle wall of partition didn't come down until after the fall of Israel. Some of you Gentiles seem to love leaving out key elements in scripture to defend your false teaching pastors whom you love and follow for reasons I cannot fathom. Salvation is of the Jews, just as scripture declares, and yet Gentiles the world over ignore that with gleeful abandon without consideration for the ramifications.
But, you're free to believe the lies taught to you by whatever liars you choose to follow after.
MM
Your love for straw man argumentation is also telling in your continued defense of lies. I never said Paul discouraged water baptism. That you fail to read what I have actually stated betrays the foundations undergirding your manic push to stay the course of lies and deceptions in not only theological mooring but also in simple discussion with others.
MM
You seem spot on with HIS word and REALLY appreciate you.
Why would you belive Cornelius would be saved without getting rid of their sins?
I understand your thoughts "if we don't know" it's not a requriement.
How can we not know if were reading HIS book?
I can see us not knowing TODAY do to alot of people today don't even preach we need to be bapitzed in JESUS name or receivign the Holy Ghost like in acts 2:4.
That's one reason I'm here, but GOD gave us a rule book for US to read and don't tell me that GOD doesn't wisper to all of us.
So many people today are Hell bound for listinign to men with a bad none bible foundation.
Just wondering do you think all of these folks today that are just in a church that deos not preach HIS word are going to heaven without being reborn do to ignorance?