Replacement theology? Yes or No.

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@ChristRoseFromTheDead @HeIsHere :
Since we are talking about Noah, allow me to speculate and say that you probably did not know these passages even existed.
Did I get that right? And since the word of God cannot be broken, when will these sure mercies come to pass?
And no, this is not speaking to the gentile Church lol. I hope that much is obvious.

Isa 54:7
For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

Isa 54:8
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.

Isa 54:9
For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Isa 54:10
For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.

Isa 54:13
And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

Isa 54:14
In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
 
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Jesus caused the sacrifice to cease........."

Good grief.....so now you are telling us that Holy Jesus God Messiah is actually the "man of sin", the anti-Christ?

I am telling you that Jesus is the final sacrifice. (Hebrews 9:26)
Those who continue the Levitical sacrifice only show their rejection of Jesus.
 
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This is not vague symbolism.
Paul describes a literal man in a literal temple committing the exact abomination Daniel predicted.

2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Interesting that the word for "temple" here is naos.
Naos = temple of the body
Heiros= temple as a building
 
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Are you getting any of this @GaryA ?
The preterists and historicists are eating crow on this thread and are being exposed for what they are:
Biblically illiterate and tragically ignorant of even the basic fundamentals of eschatology.

You are getting your ego caught up in this, tough guy!
Big mistake.
We just study the word here, we don't pretend to be the author of it.
We all come here expecting to be corrected and to make mistakes.
Do you ever make mistakes?
 
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2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Interesting that the word for "temple" here is naos.
Naos = temple of the body
Heiros= temple as a building
Actually a little extra effort yields the truth of the matter. Paul is undoubtedly speaking to the innermost sanctuary of the physical Temple.

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Naos (ναός) – The Inner Sanctuary
Think of this as the dwelling place.
It specifically refers to the "Holy of Holies" or the inner shrine where the deity was said to reside.

In 1 Corinthians 6:19 ("your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit"), Paul uses naos.

The Nuance: While naos is used for the body, it is also used for physical structures. For example, it’s used to describe the literal inner sanctuary of the Jerusalem temple that was destroyed.
 
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We all come here expecting to be corrected and to make mistakes.
Do you ever make mistakes?
Do you have the zeal, desire, drive and capacity to actually learn that which the Bible is intending to teach? I mean it's happening in real time, being fed on a silver platter free of charge.....:sneaky:
 
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I am telling you that Jesus is the final sacrifice. (Hebrews 9:26)
Those who continue the Levitical sacrifice only show their rejection of Jesus.
Nope. You said:
"Jesus caused the sacrifice to cease........."
In the context of you attempting to exegete Daniel 9:27.

The anti-christ is the offending party here. Certainly not Christ Jesus
 
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Jesus caused the sacrifice to cease by being the final sacrifice.

He did indeed. The LXX has different wording indicating that sacrifices were lifted up. I wonder if that is referring to the same thing Jesus spoke concerning his death

And he shall strengthen a covenant with many one period of sevens. And in the half of the period of seven shall be lifted up (αἴρω) sacrifice and libation offering. And upon the temple will be an abomination of desolations. And until the completion of time, completion shall be given unto the desolation. Daniel 9:27
G142 αἴρω airo (ai'-rō) v.
1. to lift up.
2. (by implication) to take up or away.

Now is judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast outside; and I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to myself. John 12:31-32
 
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You are getting your ego caught up in this, tough guy!
Big mistake.
We just study the word here, we don't pretend to be the author of it.
We all come here expecting to be corrected and to make mistakes.
Do you ever make mistakes?

@Beekeeper , do be aware that you are conversing with a disciple of R.B. Thieme Jr., who was a very dogmatic, authoritarian, intolerant and possibly heretical bible teacher. The two disciples of his that I know of here exhibit the same exact fruit.
 
@Beekeeper , do be aware that you are conversing with a disciple of R.B. Thieme Jr., who was a very dogmatic, authoritarian, intolerant and possibly heretical bible teacher. The two disciples of his that I know of here exhibit the same exact fruit.
I audition Thieme on some of the more fugitive aspects of Greek exegesis.....but I certainly am not his "disciple" lol.

In fact I disagree with him on several important doctrinal matters.
 
Nope. You said:
"Jesus caused the sacrifice to cease........."
In the context of you attempting to exegete Daniel 9:27.

The anti-christ is the offending party here. Certainly not Christ Jesus

Don't get that one.
How does AC cause the sacrifice to cease?
What sacrifice would that be?
Why is that an offense?
 
Actually a little extra effort yields the truth of the matter. Paul is undoubtedly speaking to the innermost sanctuary of the physical Temple.

-----------------------------------

Naos (ναός) – The Inner Sanctuary
Think of this as the dwelling place.
It specifically refers to the "Holy of Holies" or the inner shrine where the deity was said to reside.

In 1 Corinthians 6:19 ("your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit"), Paul uses naos.

The Nuance: While naos is used for the body, it is also used for physical structures. For example, it’s used to describe the literal inner sanctuary of the Jerusalem temple that was destroyed.

Where will the Holy of Holies or the inner shrine be in the time of the AC?
 
2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Interesting that the word for "temple" here is naos.
Naos = temple of the body

It can refer to a literal temple as well.

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ναός
naos
Thayer Definition:
1) used of the temple at Jerusalem, but only of the sacred edifice
2) any heathen temple or shrine
3) metaphorically the spiritual temple consisting of the saints of all ages joined together by and in Christ
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from a primary naio (to dwell)
 
He did indeed. The LXX has different wording indicating that sacrifices were lifted up. I wonder if that is referring to the same thing Jesus spoke concerning his death

And he shall strengthen a covenant with many one period of sevens. And in the half of the period of seven shall be lifted up (αἴρω) sacrifice and libation offering. And upon the temple will be an abomination of desolations. And until the completion of time, completion shall be given unto the desolation. Daniel 9:27
G142 αἴρω airo (ai'-rō) v.
1. to lift up.
2. (by implication) to take up or away.

Now is judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast outside; and I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to myself. John 12:31-32
I think you are at the point of desperately flailing in eschatological waters far too deep and beyond your comprehension.

And in the half of the period of seven shall be lifted up (αἴρω) sacrifice and libation offering.

Are you now trying to sell the idea that Jesus was NOT "lifted up" on the cross 14th Nisan 33AD and resurrected 17th Nisan 33AD?
And you are selling some bizarre baseless unbiblical alternative where the crucifixion actually occurred on Tishrei 36 1/2AD (3 years and 6 months afterward)?

Good luck with that heresy!

And FYI, the Book of Revelation was written around:
AD 92–96 by John the Apostle while exiled on Patmos under Domitian.

BTW, this verse speaks to those things HEREAFTER......after chapters 2 and 3 the Church age.
And this verse also exemplifies the pre-trib RAPTURE "come up here"!

Rev 4:1
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

You see, this 3 1/2 years, 42 months 1260 days is noted in Daniel 7, 9 and 12 and of course their FULFILLMENT in Revelation many times.

Here is the complete, precise list of every place in Revelation where God marks the same 3½-year period — the second half of Daniel’s 70th Week, the reign of the Antichrist, and the Great Tribulation.


⏳ The 3½-Year Clock in Revelation

All of these refer to the same period from different angles.


🔹 1. 42 months — the Antichrist’s reign
📖 Revelation 13:5

“The beast was given authority to continue for forty-two months.”​

This is:
👉 The Antichrist’s global dictatorship
👉 Begins at the Abomination of Desolation
👉 Ends when Christ returns


🔹 2. 1,260 days — Israel protected
📖 Revelation 12:6

“The woman fled into the wilderness… to be nourished there 1,260 days.”​

This is:
👉 Israel protected
👉 During Antichrist rule


🔹 3. Time, times, and half a time — same period
📖 Revelation 12:14

“She is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time…”​

This is:
👉 1 + 2 + ½ = 3½ years
👉 Daniel’s language exactly (Dan 12:7)


🔹 4. 42 months — Jerusalem trampled
📖 Revelation 11:2

“The holy city shall they tread under foot forty-two months.”​

This is:
👉 Jerusalem under Gentile control
👉 During the Antichrist’s reign


🔹 5. 1,260 days — God’s two witnesses
📖 Revelation 11:3

“My two witnesses… shall prophesy 1,260 days.”​

They minister:
👉 During the same 3½-year period
👉 Opposing the Beast


🧩 The Unified Prophetic Clock

Reference What it measures
Rev 11:2 Jerusalem oppressed
Rev 11:3 Witnesses prophesy
Rev 12:6 Israel protected
Rev 12:14 Same period, Daniel’s terms
Rev 13:5 Antichrist rules

All of them equal:


3½ years
42 months
1,260 days

🔑 Why this is devastating to Preterism and Historicism

If Revelation were fulfilled in AD 70:


  • Where are the two witnesses?
  • Where was a 3½-year Antichrist reign?
  • When did Israel flee and get protected?

None of it happened.


The clock has never started yet — because it starts at:
👉 The Abomination of Desolation (Dan 9:27)
 
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He did indeed. The LXX has different wording indicating that sacrifices were lifted up. I wonder if that is referring to the same thing Jesus spoke concerning his death

And he shall strengthen a covenant with many one period of sevens. And in the half of the period of seven shall be lifted up (αἴρω) sacrifice and libation offering. And upon the temple will be an abomination of desolations. And until the completion of time, completion shall be given unto the desolation. Daniel 9:27
G142 αἴρω airo (ai'-rō) v.
1. to lift up.
2. (by implication) to take up or away.

Now is judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast outside; and I, if I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all to myself. John 12:31-32
Indeed, this 3 and 1/2 years (half a week of years) is also noted in Daniel chapters 7 , 9, and 12. And this is one of the strongest proofs that Daniel and Revelation are one continuous prophecy.


The same 3½-year period appears in Daniel 7, Daniel 9, and Daniel 12, using the same vocabulary that Revelation later adopts.


⏳ Daniel’s 3½-Year Clock

All three chapters are describing:


The reign of the Antichrist from the Abomination of Desolation until Christ returns

🔷 1. Daniel 7 — “Time, times, and half a time”
📖 Daniel 7:25


“The saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.”​

That is:


  • 1 year
  • 2 years
  • ½ year
    = 3½ years

This is the Beast’s persecution of the saints — exactly Revelation 13.


🔷 2. Daniel 9 — “In the midst of the week”
📖 Daniel 9:27


“In the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice to cease…”​

The final “week” = 7 years


The middle = 3½ years


That is:
👉 When the Antichrist breaks the covenant
👉 When the Abomination is set up
👉 When the Great Tribulation begins


🔷 3. Daniel 12 — “1,260 days”
📖 Daniel 12:7


“It shall be for a time, times, and half a time, when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered…”​

Daniel 12:11–12 adds:


“From the time the abomination… is set up, there shall be 1,290 days…”​

The core period is:
👉 1,260 days (3½ years)
👉 Plus a 30-day and 45-day cleanup period after Christ returns


🔗 Daniel ↔ Revelation

Revelation quotes Daniel’s exact numbers:


Daniel Revelation
Time, times, half a time (7:25; 12:7)
Rev 12:141,260 days (12:7)
Rev 11:3; 12:6
Middle of the week (9:27)
Rev 13:5 (42 months)

They are measuring the same final 3½-year reign of the Beast.


🔑 Final Truth

Daniel introduced the clock.
Revelation runs it.


They agree perfectly because:


They are describing the same future Great Tribulation — not 33AD, not AD 70.
 
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I think you are at the point of desperately flailing in eschatological waters far too deep and beyond your comprehension.

And in the half of the period of seven shall be lifted up (αἴρω) sacrifice and libation offering.

Are you now trying to sell the idea that Jesus was NOT "lifted up" on the cross 14th Nisan 33AD and resurrected 17th Nisan 33AD?
And you are selling some bizarre baseless unbiblical alternative where the crucifixion actually occurred on Tishrei 36 1/2AD (3 years and 6 months afterward)?

Daniel 9:27 ...and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...

Week = any time period of seven, ie days, months or years.
There are some who say that Daniel is referring to a seven day week (in the month of Nissan) in this verse.
I don't know if that is the right answer.

None the less, the words: "and he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" is an accurate description of what Jesus did.
Jesus laid His life down willingly, and in that sense He was an active party and the CAUSE of the ending of the sacrifice.