Marriage question

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JayWalker said:
Isn't a troll anyone that disagrees with your religious doctrine?

I joined another christian forum and that's their definition of what a troll is.
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😂 see what I’m saying. Your skills need work. If you claimed to be an 80 year old man and didn’t know what a troll was I might would believe it. You’re just not that good at what you do. Reminds me of a favorite movie quote. “If you’re gonna do something for a living, you might as well be good at it.” I hope trolling isn’t the way you make a living.
 
JayWalker said:
On the other hand I've heard some older men say no matter how you slice ityou will always being paying for sex in some form or another.
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Married men pay 10 X as much to their wives than to prostitutes.

For the longest time, I couldn't figure out why would a man ever pay for sex? But being married means it cost you much more than prostitute ever. She needs a car and a bigger ring and a vacation and she says the 3 series BMW is no good, she wanted a 7 series but is willing to settle for a 5 series!

But the money in Marriage means nothing. I wanted a Wife and Family so I had to pay and that's ok. Marriage was the goal, not the money so the monsy was really a means to an end and that's all. But I digress.

I've never paid any girl for sex. No need to they out there giving it away, lol. And then it hit me, men pay prostitutes to go home and leave!
 
JayWalker said:
Where was this?





I'd better ask my boss for a raise and more hours!
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Wait until she wants to take a new BMW on Vacation! And that's to vegas so she'll need gambling money. That's what all my (ex) Wife said to me. Well I wasnt prepared to buy her a new BMY to go to Vegas in so it wound up being a nice suv so we could live through it financially, lol

I got lucky our entire trip was paid for in Vegas, Hotel gas, food, everything plus we went back home with $800 profit so I got blessed there!
 
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JayWalker said:
If two people get married and don't have kinds you are thinking they are living in sin?

Good thing they will go to heaven anyway even if they are
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No, because there's a secondary function, stabalization of society. It is universally acknowledged that singles, especially young single males, are more likely to cause troubles and engage in dangerous behaviors than married or at least coupled men.
 
JayWalker said:
I'm just telling you people what my pastor says and he seems to have bible references to back up his claim that once saved always saved is true and correct and that there is nothing a christian can do to cause himself to not go to heaven after getting born again
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You need to know that someone can find scriptures to back up nearly anything; but scriptures can be misinterpreted. That's why people are saying to you read and study the Bible for yourself. You need to understand for yourself what its true message is, not what someone else tells you. Ask God to teach you and give you understanding.
 
Edward429451 said:
No it wasn't a joke. I don't think you caught what I meant though. Maybe you have to be a man to understand things like that?
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I understood what you were talking about and I’m wondering if my next question is going to open a can of worms but : Why would you want to marry a woman like that? Those symptoms are evident during the engagement phase when you live together so you can find out if you are both marriage material.
You can find out even during dating phase.
 
Eli1 said:
I understood what you were talking about and I’m wondering if my next question is going to open a can of worms but : Why would you want to marry a woman like that? Those symptoms are evident during the engagement phase when you live together so you can find out if you are both marriage material.
You can find out even during dating phase.
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I wouldn't want to marry a woman like that and she gave me o clues during dating. You see, she only knew about 6 words of English when we met, and I didn't know even one word in Polish. She had recently immigrated here with her parents.

The language barrier did not even slow me down. I got my messages across very easily, polish girls are like girls everywhere, they know and they like it. It was really my fault that she grew up to be that girl. I say she "got Americanized" and what brought it on was, she grew up dirt poor in Poland on a farm. So she had serious homemaking skills! That girl could whip up dinner from anything, the gravel in the driveway Lol! Here you go, and I liked that, but at the same time I felt sympathetic towards her for how she grew up poor...so I very much contributed to her growing spoiled by giving her a lot of money, too much. Then when I went into Business and started making 6 figures, she sure liked that and the money didnt mean anything to me for the most part then as the economy kept sliding down in the late 90's and when we dropped below six figures...she jumped ship for greener grass. Yes I married the wrong girl. I should not have spoiled her with all that money. I started dating her when she was 17 so she never got to date other boys in the US and I'm sure she was curious about that. When she left, she said she's moving to Florida and going to marry a millionaire! Good luck. SHe dated some lawyer that had a 7 million dollar house and so she began sleeping with him. Then she got overly anxious and wrothe the man an email demanding that he marry her because she had given him her all. (???) He called me up and told me, let me read the email and that poor guy begged me to call her and tell her to come home. I said no take backs! She's your problem now lol.

It was the money that made her jump ship. When we set up house together and she got pregnant, I figured if she was having my child then She also deserved my name so I married her and I told her I will pay all the bills so she can stay home, but if she did decide to work that she could keep her money because her working does not take from responsibilities and give them to her, right? And I would still give her money as if she didnt have a job. If I was short on some due bill or something, she would not hesitate to pitch in because after the kids were getting older she did go get a job for herself. I'd catch her on a payday and ask if she had a good week and she'd eyeball me like I was about to asker for money and say slowly, yes. Then I said, Me too, share the wealth, here and hand her $1500 because I had a good week too! Too much money and I let her buy whatever she wanted.

So, she wasnt like that when I first met her, only after years of my stupidity. When we got our first place together, she asked me if she could get a drink...

I said, you don't have to ask, you are home now! She used to have such a humble spirit...I wish her well but I hear she isnt doing very good now.
 
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Thank you for sharing all that @Edward429451 and I understand you very well.

To give you a little more perspective, when the Cold War ended, a lot of girls on that side abandoned all their morals for the sake of the money.
And not just the girls but their mothers too which is just subhuman.
On the west everyone is shocked with people like Epstein but during the end of the Cold War and after it, some of the mothers in the East side were sending their own daughters into prostitution!
I didn’t even know what to say when I first heard that because it was a feeling of anger. Even an animal protects their child instinctively. Those people weren’t even animals. I hope God places them where they belong.
These things happened everywhere including my birth country.

My view on marriage taking this into account, and the fact that it’s almost like a caste system in India in a lot of Eastern countries in Europe was that I wasn’t going to get married. Because girls with morals and Godly characteristics are rare.

But God had other plans for me and I’ve been living with and angel for over 3 decades now since high school and I thank God everyday for her and kiss her every morning when I wake up.

So when you plan to marry someone, it’s important to know where they come from, what family they have, what type of education they have and things like that.
It does become a caste system but it’s practical after all because you want to know who you will be sharing your life with.
Illusions like the movie Pretty Woman are unthinkable in the East when it comes to marriage.

Thanks again for sharing and God bless you.
 
Eli1 said:
To give you a little more perspective, when the Cold War ended, a lot of girls on that side abandoned all their morals for the sake of the money.
And not just the girls but their mothers too which is just subhuman.
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When I met the young girl I met all of her family pretty quick. I naturally did some reading about Poland...and I discovered that Prostitution is Poland's biggest industry!

I didn't find out that her mom did used to dabble in the industry! They never talked about it of course but they had plenty of friends visiting from Poland and I buddied up to a couple of them and they let me in on some things.
 
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The only thing some have questioned in my life is whether me and my girlfriend are married or not in God's eyes since we never got a marriage license from our state.

Several people has responded saying we are not actually in sin since we are in a committed relationship so it sounds like I'm not actually in sin after all.

So far I don't see any bible verse posted by anyone that shows God commands us to get a marriage license from our state in order for Him to recognize our marriage.

So this must be one of those opinion things where some are of one opinion and others are of a different opinion since nobody can prove from the bible that God requires a state marriage license in order to be married in His eyes.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
You need to know that someone can find scriptures to back up nearly anything; but scriptures can be misinterpreted. That's why people are saying to you read and study the Bible for yourself. You need to understand for yourself what its true message is, not what someone else tells you. Ask God to teach you and give you understanding.
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And of course whatever conclusion I arrive at there's always going to be somebody claiming I'm in error.

I see how this religious stuff works.
 
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JayWalker said:
And of course whatever conclusion I arrive at there's always going to be somebody claiming I'm in error.

I see how this religious stuff works.
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Well said. Not sure why you want to know the "right" answer to this question as it varies between groups and cultures but it's not going to be something people will agree on.
It's not like asking "Did Jesus rise from the dead?". 100% of Christians will say YES. If anybody says NO or MAYBE, then you can say with certainty that they're not Christians.
They may be Liberals, or Muslims or a tribe in the Amazon forest.
 
JayWalker said:
The only thing some have questioned in my life is whether me and my girlfriend are married or not in God's eyes since we never got a marriage license from our state.

Several people has responded saying we are not actually in sin since we are in a committed relationship so it sounds like I'm not actually in sin after all.

So far I don't see any bible verse posted by anyone that shows God commands us to get a marriage license from our state in order for Him to recognize our marriage.

So this must be one of those opinion things where some are of one opinion and others are of a different opinion since nobody can prove from the bible that God requires a state marriage license in order to be married in His eyes.
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[This same quote was replied to in another thread here. I hope we're not dealing with a troll...]
 
WiselyWoven said:
[This same quote was replied to in another thread here. I hope we're not dealing with a troll...]
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That reply was relevant to both conversations

Besides, doesn't the bible tell Christians to obey the law of man for the sake of the Lord?

Doesn't that make YOU the troll here?
 
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