Hello Everyone,
I listen to a lot of debates on whether it's better to rent or buy a place to live, especially as the economic landscape (in the USA) is always shifting. Conventional wisdom that I grew up with always said that buying is better because it's basically a forced savings account, with houses usually appreciating in value, and not being subjected to the whims of a landlord.
These are all great benefits, but I'm wondering how it's working out in a practical sense for people. Wherever there's a lot of talk, I always need to see the proof from those who are in the walk.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who made out well from buying and selling a home, but I just listened to a video a few days ago from a real estate agent giving an example of one pair of boomer clients who were retiring and building a new house for close to $800,000. They were expecting their house to sell for around $800,000 because (quoting the realtor) "they thought it was still 2022 when you could sell a home in a day, but that's been over for a while."
The harsh reality is that their former house was only appraised at $560,000, and even at that price, it's not selling, so they're in quite a situation -- especially since they are older and trying to retire.
I know these numbers are ridiculous, but I live in an area where Google says the average home price in my area is $500,000 - $570,000. If you want lower prices, be prepared to have a village of homeless people sleeping on your lawn (that's not an exaggeration -- I've driven past neighborhoods with tents flooding over across open patches of grass between the houses.) The "less expensive" houses are also old, and will likely need a bit of work, which racks up the cost.
Substances that were illegal when I was a kid are legal here, and there have been various "experiments" with defunding the police and decriminalizing hard drugs in bigger cities, with the consequences spilling over to all the surrounding areas. It's sad fact that safety has a very high price tag here.
I had relatives who looked into downsizing to a smaller house with older people in mind, but builders told them they don't build anything less than 2,200 feet, because everything here is designed for families. No one wants to waste their time building smaller, more affordable housing.
In the video I listened to, the realtor asked, "Who, exactly, are boomers expecting to sell their houses to?" Who can be counted on to pay these kind of prices? I hear story after story of tech workers making 6 figures getting laid off, and are lucky to find a job that pays half of their former income.
I know some people have houses that have appreciated greatly in value, but I'm always wondering: 1. Who will buy them at that price, especially since they will need work done? With so many new builds here, people will often choose new. 2. Is the price they're selling their house for enough to cost the expenses of finding another place to live?
I have relatives who had to move cross-country and the moving costs alone for all their things was $30,000. Not to mention closing costs and all the fees, taxes, and additional expenses when finding a new home.
I would like to ask (whether for yourself or those you know
* Are older and retired people finding success in selling their houses for great profits, paying all the taxes, and then being able to afford to move to another place?
* Are they finding smaller, cheaper places to live -- because if not, why move if you don't have to?
* If people are using their houses as their main source of wealth, how does it work if you aren't able to sell you house? (Do you just survive by taking loans against the value of your home?)
I have owned a home in the past but feel that renting is better for my current situation. Never in my life would I be able to or willingly take on a $500,000 home. Yet, I'm often told that I should (buy a home.) But I've also been hearing many stories of older people who are losing their homes anyway because they can't keep up with the rising taxes, insurance, and HOA fees.
I'd really like to hear how things have worked out for other people in the ongoing renting vs. owning debate, especially for people who are depending on their home's value to support them for the rest of their lives.
Is what I listened to just an exaggeration?
I listen to a lot of debates on whether it's better to rent or buy a place to live, especially as the economic landscape (in the USA) is always shifting. Conventional wisdom that I grew up with always said that buying is better because it's basically a forced savings account, with houses usually appreciating in value, and not being subjected to the whims of a landlord.
These are all great benefits, but I'm wondering how it's working out in a practical sense for people. Wherever there's a lot of talk, I always need to see the proof from those who are in the walk.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who made out well from buying and selling a home, but I just listened to a video a few days ago from a real estate agent giving an example of one pair of boomer clients who were retiring and building a new house for close to $800,000. They were expecting their house to sell for around $800,000 because (quoting the realtor) "they thought it was still 2022 when you could sell a home in a day, but that's been over for a while."
The harsh reality is that their former house was only appraised at $560,000, and even at that price, it's not selling, so they're in quite a situation -- especially since they are older and trying to retire.
I know these numbers are ridiculous, but I live in an area where Google says the average home price in my area is $500,000 - $570,000. If you want lower prices, be prepared to have a village of homeless people sleeping on your lawn (that's not an exaggeration -- I've driven past neighborhoods with tents flooding over across open patches of grass between the houses.) The "less expensive" houses are also old, and will likely need a bit of work, which racks up the cost.
Substances that were illegal when I was a kid are legal here, and there have been various "experiments" with defunding the police and decriminalizing hard drugs in bigger cities, with the consequences spilling over to all the surrounding areas. It's sad fact that safety has a very high price tag here.
I had relatives who looked into downsizing to a smaller house with older people in mind, but builders told them they don't build anything less than 2,200 feet, because everything here is designed for families. No one wants to waste their time building smaller, more affordable housing.
In the video I listened to, the realtor asked, "Who, exactly, are boomers expecting to sell their houses to?" Who can be counted on to pay these kind of prices? I hear story after story of tech workers making 6 figures getting laid off, and are lucky to find a job that pays half of their former income.
I know some people have houses that have appreciated greatly in value, but I'm always wondering: 1. Who will buy them at that price, especially since they will need work done? With so many new builds here, people will often choose new. 2. Is the price they're selling their house for enough to cost the expenses of finding another place to live?
I have relatives who had to move cross-country and the moving costs alone for all their things was $30,000. Not to mention closing costs and all the fees, taxes, and additional expenses when finding a new home.
I would like to ask (whether for yourself or those you know
* Are older and retired people finding success in selling their houses for great profits, paying all the taxes, and then being able to afford to move to another place?
* Are they finding smaller, cheaper places to live -- because if not, why move if you don't have to?
* If people are using their houses as their main source of wealth, how does it work if you aren't able to sell you house? (Do you just survive by taking loans against the value of your home?)
I have owned a home in the past but feel that renting is better for my current situation. Never in my life would I be able to or willingly take on a $500,000 home. Yet, I'm often told that I should (buy a home.) But I've also been hearing many stories of older people who are losing their homes anyway because they can't keep up with the rising taxes, insurance, and HOA fees.
I'd really like to hear how things have worked out for other people in the ongoing renting vs. owning debate, especially for people who are depending on their home's value to support them for the rest of their lives.
Is what I listened to just an exaggeration?