Zero. As I explained earlier, Gen. 1:1-2 is background setting. God's creation started with light of the world.
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Zero. As I explained earlier, Gen. 1:1-2 is background setting. God's creation started with light of the world.
Which came first, the first light or the first man? And just a reminder, this light came into being before sun, moon and the stars were created, it was no ordinary light.
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James456
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You appear to be ignorant of of 1 Thess. 4:16, "the dead in Christ will rise FIRST." And when is that? The first resurrection, right upon the second coming, the beginning of the millennial kingdom. (Rev. 20:1-5) And when is the second coming? "“Immediately after the tribulation of those days," (Matt. 24:19) This is where pre-trib rapture theory falls apart, but that's another topic for another day.
Since you keep pounding on 1 Cor. 15:35-50, I hope you could at least understand that our real blessed hope is this resurrection, right here on earth, in His kingdom.
I share your lamentation, but the reversal of morality taking place should not make us mum!
(Isa. 5:20)
Thank you. This world has many troubles here. I have learned to not be naive and to listen to God discerning truth over error. Waiting and listening to God over it all from within. learned, learning daily to not be impulsive anymore. I have gotten into many troubles over being impulsive in past, too many times.
I have asked from God for me to understand many things. For me to not get messed up as have in past, staying In prayer in my closet and vent it all out.
Not hearing anything back, just venting letting it all out. Still trusting to God even though I would not know yet. I did not worry over it. Glad I was able to release stress. Then going out and about, like when growing up in school elementary school. Something would go on and I would hear my answer and learn. Saying thank you for this awareness, the perplexity leaves.
Evil loves to distract, confuse, perplex and make worry out to anyone over anything. That is the nature of Evil's game, that I have come to learn from experiences here on earth.
I have learned Right is Right, wrong is wrong! and everyone knows this truth within them, being first born with the knowledge of good and bad, to know. No one needs to tell me I did wrong, I know it already, as so does each person as well.
The problem I see is me, I would take whatever I see and make it good or bad for me, and use that to be right over others. Anyone else see this in them too?
I know that was in me and could be there again, as soon as I get worried over anything again. So I now stand in trust to Father of risen Son Jesus for me to see truth over the errors of trying to figure it out first as did in past. now, not anymore, seeing evil trying to play it's nature game of perplexity and worry over things for anyone that will listen to those thoughts that hound anyone's minds,
I, you and all others are given the authority from God Father through risen Son to say to Evil "Get out" and evil has to leave and does, temporarily, hiding around the corner wanting to re-enter.
I am being made aware over experiencing the evil to see new in standing in trust to God no matter what happens. seeking. learning. from it all. I guess I am now stoic, not going out anymore to the world of terrors that appear as are good and are not.
Matthew 10:16-20
In this awareness I heard, hear a knock on my door. I answer the door and there is evil trying to re-enter again and many times found a way to do that though me being nice again as taught to be by religions, sneaky!
Now, today, I hear the knock and I see Jesus the risen get the door and then I see Evil say. "Sorry I knocked on the wrong door"
God leads, I follow in trust to God Father and Son guided by his Holy Spirit, woe is me again thank you as I vent and trust help comes for us all in belief to God too
To see we are give the power to overcome humbly and do not take any credit in the alit hygiene us to do as led to do, in love and mercy standing through us still by God's done work of Son for us to be confident ad not doubt anymore
Yes, finally you agree that we rise as Christ descends. Yay!
No one knows when that will happen.
I harp on harmonizing all of GW.
Our blessing begins now (Matt. 5:3-12), but our hope will not end until the resurrection (Rom. 8:22-25).
Jesus was the light?
I thought He was THE WORD?
John 1:1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
How do you know that no time passed?
Where does it quote the timing?
It does not and scholars are not agreed on this.
Genesis 1:3
THEN GOD SAID.....
We cannot know when this THEN occurred.
But in post no. 269
you said this:
Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank.
J
James456
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BUT
In post 283 you said this:
No one has seen the Father, he is unseen(John6:46)
James...you're contradicting yourself.
J
James456
Guest
Why am I?
You yourself said the Father has never been seen. But 74 of the Israelites did see the God of Israel, so who did they see?
No one has ever seen the Father and no one has heard the Father speak, nor has anyone seen His form!
John 5:37
And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.
John 6:46
Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.
John 14:6-7
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”
What can we deduce from these verses?
The only form of God that spoke and was visible to humanity was the pre-incarnate Christ.
J
James456
Guest
Previous chapter:
See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him Exodus23:20&21
He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him John1:11
There cannot be conflict in the bible, or it becomes untrustworthy.
When the OT person saw God,,,what he saw was Jesus.
Jesus, in the OT is also known as THE ANGEL OF GOD.
Even in the OT God is shown to be plural.
For instance, in the burning bush we read that the Angel of God appeared to Moses.
Then we read that GOD spoke to him.
Exodus 3:2
2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush.
Exodus 3:4
4 When the Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, “Moses! Moses!”
The Lord is the Angel of God.
God is the Lord and the Angel of God.
J
James456
Guest
So according to you only an angel was in the burning bush.
How come the ground is holy?
Why won't Moses look at the so called angel?
Is this angel a ventriloquist speaking in the first person as God?
Or is the term "angel" a Greek word?