Do you believe the Lord's promise to keep you from the wrath to come??

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Omegatime

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1 Thess.1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

5: 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

For the Lord will pour out his WRATH on an unbelieving world in the Tribulation

Revelation 6:16
calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

Revelation 6:17
for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand before it?”

Revelation 15:1
Then I saw another portent in heaven, great and wonderful, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is ended.

Revelation 15:7
And one of the four living creatures gave the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives for ever and ever;

Rest assured the Lord will keep you from the hour of trial coming on the whole world
 
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Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The beast has power to rule for 3.5 years.

And he has power over all kindreds, tongues, and nations.

The beast could not have power unless God allows it.

If God is allowing the beast to rule then His wrath is not there.

After the 3.5 years then the wrath of God goes against them.

It was given unto the beast to make war against the saints.

And they are given in to his hands for 3.5 years.

The tribulation is for the saints.

Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

God tells the saints not to fight back.
 
Hebrews 9:28

28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Tribulation is dealing with sin. Why do people like you sell fear!
 
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yes, whoever is a born again Christian, should believe that. all Christians will be kept from the wrath to come during the tribulation. 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18, 5:9, Romans 5: 8 & 9 & Matthew 24:21. no Christian will be here on earth during the pouring out of wrath in which the likes has never been seen on earth, past or present or future. future meaning between now & the rapture.
 
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Omegatime said:
1 Thess.1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

5: 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

For the Lord will pour out his WRATH on an unbelieving world in the Tribulation

Revelation 6:16
calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

Revelation 6:17
for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand before it?”

Revelation 15:1
Then I saw another portent in heaven, great and wonderful, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is ended.

Revelation 15:7
And one of the four living creatures gave the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives for ever and ever;

Rest assured the Lord will keep you from the hour of trial coming on the whole world
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Me, I have been affirmed God will save me. I trust and have been through troubles here. I have stood and stand in trust, not ny any good works of my own Thanks

Colossians 1:21-23

Authorized (King James) Version

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled 22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: 23 if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
 
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i do believe that yes. what i dont believe in is a 7 year tribulation period at the end.

God's wrath is already being manifested today, not in some 7 year tribulation only.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness
 
Omegatime said:
1 Thess.1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

5: 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

For the Lord will pour out his WRATH on an unbelieving world in the Tribulation

Revelation 6:16
calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

Revelation 6:17
for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand before it?”

Revelation 15:1
Then I saw another portent in heaven, great and wonderful, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is ended.

Revelation 15:7
And one of the four living creatures gave the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives for ever and ever;

Rest assured the Lord will keep you from the hour of trial coming on the whole world
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NO wrath for me, I affirm and stand IN His finished work just like He tells us so clearly. :) 🙏
 
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Omegatime said:
Hebrews 9:28

28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Tribulation is dealing with sin. Why do people like you sell fear!
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Yes and which sin might that be? Hmm.:unsure:
 
Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

There is a future time when heaven and earth will both be united under Christ.

Col_1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

We who are saved by the gospel of grace have already been placed in the heavenly kingdom.

Eph_2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

It would seem logical to remove those who are already seated in the heavenlies before the gospel of the earthly kingdom is once again offered to the nation of Israel
 
Omegatime said:
1 Thess.1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

5: 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

For the Lord will pour out his WRATH on an unbelieving world in the Tribulation

Revelation 6:16
calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb;

Revelation 6:17
for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand before it?”

Revelation 15:1
Then I saw another portent in heaven, great and wonderful, seven angels with seven plagues, which are the last, for with them the wrath of God is ended.

Revelation 15:7
And one of the four living creatures gave the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives for ever and ever;

Rest assured the Lord will keep you from the hour of trial coming on the whole world
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I believe this more and more as each year flies by.
 
Omegatime said:
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Greatest sin of all is denying the Christ Yeshua/Jesus
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The Bible is pretty clear that sin is transgression of the law.

1Jo 3:4 KJV - 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Denying Jesus would be replacing Jesus with anything else.

1Jo 5:21 KJV - 21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

The mark of the beast is worshipping a Satanic deception for the worship of the true God. Worshipping the creature instead of the creator.

Rev 14:6-7 KJV - 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Gen 2:1-3 KJV - 1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
 
Melach said:
i do believe that yes. what i dont believe in is a 7 year tribulation period at the end.

God's wrath is already being manifested today, not in some 7 year tribulation only.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness
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Naturally so! Seeing when Paul said to the Corinthians to kick that man out. To get defeated through troubles was said in 1 Corinthians. Then in 2 Corinthians he stated too return that man, God loves us all.
what a learning experience, seeing this myself personally.
I do believe there is Karma as a person sows, so shall that person reap
Galatians 6 reveals that to me. As well as my own experiences here on earth.

Be careful in what you say or do. It has a way to come back and bite, Such as in
Matthew 18:24-35 tells me about that person that was forgiven and would not forgive, how he was called back to court, and heard, how he despise being forgiven by God first and got thrown into Hell over it.
Therefore I forgive everyone, period, since by God I am forgiven, anyone else? I see justified is in being forgiven and forgiving Luke 18:9-14
 
Melach said:
i do believe that yes. what i dont believe in is a 7 year tribulation period at the end.

God's wrath is already being manifested today, not in some 7 year tribulation only.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness
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melach, study the teachings of amir tsarfati & jack hibbs on the rapture-tribulation events. they are some of the most regarded authorities in these times.
 
Do you believe the Lord's promise to keep you from the wrath to come??
It depends. This is written to the church, because all epistles are. Because we're in the Falling Away, those that fall away will face Hell fire unless they repent in the tribulation.
 
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Edify said:
Do you believe the Lord's promise to keep you from the wrath to come??
It depends. This is written to the church, because all epistles are. Because we're in the Falling Away, those that fall away will face Hell fire unless they repent in the tribulation.
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I have a different outlook on this

I believe falling away or rebellion is wrong and should be departure

2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the departure occurs and the man of sin is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
 
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I have a different outlook on this

I believe falling away or rebellion is wrong and should be departure

2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the departure occurs and the man of sin is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
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You should check the Greek language It called the Apostasy.(rebellion)
 
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