Loss of salvation???

[Ouch]

If you were man enough you would put down your macho flesh and allow the Word of God to correct you.

Nothing is behind your back. For all can read what was said.

You are on Ignore because the Lord wants you to know what it is like, what you do,
Because, you IGNORE His Word... and stick to a poor translation to misrepresent Him.

'Pneuma' means "spirit." Not a ghost.

Ghost sounds moronic to many in our day and age.
And, God does not want you sounding stupid to others when you speak of Him.
It gives them an excuse that some are looking for.
Thinking that Christianity is only for the low IQ people.

Christianity when in the Spirit transforms our way of thinking.

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived ​

that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. ​

And they recognized that they had been with Jesus." Acts 4:13​

To taking your logic to its full extent?
This is how you would sound!

​

I say then: Walk in the Ghost, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Galatians 5:16​

​

For as many as are led by the Ghost of God, these are sons of God. Romans 8:14​

We are all brothers.
Brothers should be honest with one another.
Bluntness is sometimes needed when one brother is being stubborn and damaging to our family name.

.......

FYI, if he is taking about me should he confront me???

That's taking behind someones back and not letting them have a voice!!

So your upset because I use the word Ghost?

So listening to YOU when I share HIS word and say have you been filled with the Holy Spirit since you have belived and then use HIS WORD to back up what I say like this.

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

I WOULD BE CHANGING HIS WORD!!!

One converstation and the word GHOST 3 TIMES!!

Revelation 22:18-19
King James Version
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

As you can see you are not one to follow.

So is that the only word that I use that you think makes me look stupid?

 

[Genez]

Yep all we can do is share HIS word.

Stop using a poor translation when you do.
That is your big problem!

You are embarrassing your new-found family.

History has its examples of how embarrassing mistranslations can be.

https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1880208_1880218_1880227,00.html

Stop sounding stupid.

 

[Ouch]

Stop using a poor translation when you do.
That is your big problem!

You are embarrassing your new-found family.

History has its examples of how embarrassing mistranslations can be.

https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1880208_1880218_1880227,00.html

Stop sounding stupid.

So I sound stupid for shaing HIS word?

Notice I don't insult people.

While I'm shareing HIS WORD, have YOU recieved the Holy Ghost since you have believed??

Now you see why people put me on ignore, because I will not follow them and JESUS alone!!!!!!

When it comes to HIS WORD I WILL NOT BEND, IT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS AND MEANS WHAT IT MEANS!!

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

HOW WERE YOU BAPTIZED????

YOU DO YOU AND I WILL DO ME, when we stand in front of JESUS he will be the one judging WITH HIS WORD not yours and you opinion of what is should be.

 

[Genez]

Some people like being a bullheaded in a china shop.
For they love the attention it gets them from upsetting others.

Being self-centered, he is actually feeling superior to those whom he will affect negatively.
Superior. Because they are not being able to correct him.
That is where he feels superior over others who wish to correct him.

Looks like he hates the idea of becoming one with those whom he thinks are the ones who need to be humbled.
For they would make him feel inferior to allow them to correct him.

Because of his unwillingness, he is without the power of grace to become transformed to rise up in his life.
Of course, he knows the word grace from reading it in the Bible.
But he fails to understand its power to transform us into something superior to what we had been.

Sadly, he has been trapped into a way of thinking that will keep him from transcending above what he thinks he must be.
He must accept correction or remain stuck in retarded spiritual growth.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but whoever hates correction is stupid.

Proverbs 12:1

Stupidity is a choice!​

 

[TomSavedByGrace]

I'm going to answer this in the simplest way I can think of. Yes, it IS possible to lose salvation.


KJV Galatians 5:19-22
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


Revelations also shines a similar light on the subject.

KJV Revelations 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like losing salvation IS possible, if you fall under any of these categories. And yes, repenting and asking for forgiveness is ALWAYS a good idea.

A person has the same ability to lose it as he/she does of earning it.

 

[NightTwister]

Learning and knowing "sound doctrine" does not automatically immunize any of us from Satan's attacks. The Reformers studied the scriptures extensively. However, their knowledge and learning did not stop them from killing thousands of Anabaptists when they got into power.

This is called the "poisoning the well" fallacy, which is determining someone to be false based on something outside of the actual discussion.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

Wasn't 70 weeks determined upon God's people. Was that a literal 70 weeks? You seem to pick and choose what is literal and what isn't. God spoke to Daniel and revealed the 70 years. Where else does He explain numbers?

I have not find anyplace where God posted a definitive "key" which we can always use to determine whether a given scripture is to be interpreted literally or figuratively. Usually, we have to test the different approaches comparing each to what actually happened. Personally, I tend to think the numbers in passages with prophetic import should be taken literally because they are intended to place God's plan on the timeline. Even prophecies which allow only a short time before its fulfillment - such as the prophecy that the time Jesus spent in the grave would recapitulate the time Jonah spent inside the fish (three days and three nights). There are many prophesies that speak of specific time periods. That is the power of prophecy.

The Apostle Peter, apparently, did not see anything ambivalent or ambiguous about prophecy. As he said in his letter:
19 And we have as more sure the prophetic word, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.
(2 Peter 1:19)
I have no intention of doing an exhaustive study on prophecy. It is not an area about which I am particularly knowledgeable. One thing I have noticed is that the earlier Christian authors tended to take scriptures more literally while writers like Origen tended to apply multiple levels of meaning. Some refer to the various approaches to interpreting scriptures as belonging to various "schools" Two major interpretive “schools” came to shape Christian thought. The center of one was Alexandria in Egypt while the other was based in Antioch in Syria.

 

[Cameron143]

I have not find anyplace where God posted a definitive "key" which we can always use to determine whether a given scripture is to be interpreted literally or figuratively. Usually, we have to test the different approaches comparing each to what actually happened. Personally, I tend to think the numbers in passages with prophetic import should be taken literally because they are intended to place God's plan on the timeline. Even prophecies which allow only a short time before its fulfillment - such as the prophecy that the time Jesus spent in the grave would recapitulate the time Jonah spent inside the fish (three days and three nights). There are many prophesies that speak of specific time periods. That is the power of prophecy.

The Apostle Peter, apparently, did not see anything ambivalent or ambiguous about prophecy. As he said in his letter:
19 And we have as more sure the prophetic word, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts.
(2 Peter 1:19)
I have no intention of doing an exhaustive study on prophecy. It is not an area about which I am particularly knowledgeable. One thing I have noticed is that the earlier Christian authors tended to take scriptures more literally while writers like Origen tended to apply multiple levels of meaning. Some refer to the various approaches to interpreting scriptures as belonging to various "schools" Two major interpretive “schools” came to shape Christian thought. The center of one was Alexandria in Egypt while the other was based in Antioch in Syria.

My point was that 70 weeks was prophecy and specific, but it wasn't 70 actual weeks. On the other hand, 1000 years is prophecy but it must mean a literal period of time. Just seems inconsistent to me.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

True we should be honest but without grace and love most will not listen to what we are trying to tell them.
15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Christ Himself, who is the head.
(Ephesians 4:15)

 

[JimiSurvivor]

My point was that 70 weeks was prophecy and specific, but it wasn't 70 actual weeks. On the other hand, 1000 years is prophecy but it must mean a literal period of time. Just seems inconsistent to me.

Many commentators say that the seventy “sevens” should be understood as seventy “weeks” of years, in other words, a period of 490 years

 

[Cameron143]

Many commentators say that the seventy “sevens” should be understood as seventy “weeks” of years, in other words, a period of 490 years

Sure, and I agree. But if we take it literally, it would mean 70 weeks. It is actually referring to a much longer period of time.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Back on topic = "loss of salvation?"

A person has the same ability to lose it as he/she does of earning it.

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To/For Gentiles, Today, In His Dispensation Of The Grace Of God, Biblically Confirmed By:​

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The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[Ouch]

Some people like being a bullheaded in a china shop.
For they love the attention it gets them from upsetting others.

Being self-centered, he is actually feeling superior to those whom he will affect negatively.
Superior. Because they are not being able to correct him.
That is where he feels superior over others who wish to correct him.

Looks like he hates the idea of becoming one with those whom he thinks are the ones who need to be humbled.
For they would make him feel inferior to allow them to correct him.

Because of his unwillingness, he is without the power of grace to become transformed to rise up in his life.
Of course, he knows the word grace from reading it in the Bible.
But he fails to understand its power to transform us into something superior to what we had been.

Sadly, he has been trapped into a way of thinking that will keep him from transcending above what he thinks he must be.
He must accept correction or remain stuck in retarded spiritual growth.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge,
but whoever hates correction is stupid.

Proverbs 12:1

Stupidity is a choice!​

Am I "he"

If so the only thing you corrected me on was using the word Holy Ghost?

And of course I am not following you, HIS word reflects the word or phrase Holy Ghost 90 times.

Was there something else you had a problem with me, besides not follow you?

Trying to get some of your fans to follow you?

If your calling me stupid for not following you can use captial letters plaeae, I sure can fell the love.

 

[sawdust]

Peter and I forgot that JESUS doen't baptize in water but with the Holy Ghost???

Yes, I showed the word where he forgot. We have been through this.

HIS WORD IS CLEAR HIS disciples did the baptizing in water, NO ONE ever said JESUS did!!!

Never said they didn't. We have been through that too.

What you will NOT ACCEPT is there are two different things.

That's because they are not two separate things doing the same job. There is only one baptism for the Church.

We are baptized into Christ, into His person which, is what His name represents and this is done by means of the Spirit. This is what you won't accept.

Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;

You say JESUS filled you with living waters HOW DO YOU KNOW???

Because I literally felt the draining of filthy water and the filling of the cleanest water one could ever imagine, the Spirit spoke to me by repeating Matt.5:8 several times, I was overcome with joy and I saw the risen Christ. It was like a cross of Paul's experience on the Damascus road and the Jailer's experience in Acts 16:34 and my life has never been the same since.

I suspect that won't satisfy you though because you sound like one of those who thinks every conversion must be accompanied with tongues even though it didn't always happen that way in Acts.

You accept the trintiy which is NOT BIBLE and you will NOT accept what the bible says on how to be reborn.

I accept the trinity because it is the truth. The Bible is filled with evidence that the Father is God, the Son is God and the Spirit is God. There is one God in Being who reveals Himself in three persons. You are the one who refuses to believe the truth. It is one of the most basic doctrines of the Church and if you think Jesus Christ is not God, then you are not following the One and Only. Jn.1:14

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

The Spirit generates the human spirit. He does that when one believes in the Lord God. How do you think all the Old Testament saints understood the Kingdom if they were not born again? The majority of whom were never baptized in water. Do you even know what it is to be born of the Spirit? It is something every man must undergo if he wants to know God. It is not something for the Church age alone.

You next statement clears that up, you say the sinfull you died HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IF YOU DID NOT GET RID OF YOUR SINS ACCORDING TO HIS WORD??

Christ took care of my sins, there is naught I can do to remove them. Indeed, if it were not for the good Lord's determination to save those who believe, I would still be beset by my sin but He nailed them to the Cross and dealt with them once and for all. Now, there is no condemnation for those who walk after the Spirit and if I do slip? I have an advocate with the Father who cleanses me of all sin upon my confession. Do you not know these things?

Colossians 2:14
having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Hebrews 9:12
Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Why do you say I have a one-eye slant on scripture when all I do is share scripture in it's proper context? If you accept how we get rid of our sins you would accept the scripture I share.

But you don't, that's the problem. You ignore any scripture that speaks of something different than what you say. We cannot understand the Lord God unless we compare scriptures and learn to see the bigger picture of what is going on.

Do you belong to a Church where you worship and go to hear the word of God taught?

The real problem is you need to sperate them.

The real problem is you don't separate them correctly. There is one baptism, not two. The baptism of Christ is with the Spirit, not water. A lot has happened in the Church over the years, doesn't make all of it right. You keep refusing to heed Jesus' parting words and forget just like Peter forgot and continued baptizing in water when it was no longer necessary. We have been over this before so not going to explain again.

post # 5316

What do you think "Baptism doth also now save us" mean?

Why are you asking me this? I explained it in the post you quoted and I have said so much about baptism you should be able to work it out. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves us. The baptism with the Spirit places us in Christ where His death for our sin covers and forgives us and where His life (resurrection) brings us into relationship and new life (salvation).

1 Peter 3:21
There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Baptism now saves us, the one baptism, that is the one the Lord performs which, is with the Spirit placing us into Christ where we share in His resurrection.

Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Satan knows what happens in the water!!

Yes he does. It's a pity you don't.

 

[Ouch]

Yes, I showed the word where he forgot. We have been through this.


Never said they didn't. We have been through that too.



That's because they are not two separate things doing the same job. There is only one baptism for the Church.

We are baptized into Christ, into His person which, is what His name represents and this is done by means of the Spirit. This is what you won't accept.

Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;



Because I literally felt the draining of filthy water and the filling of the cleanest water one could ever imagine, the Spirit spoke to me by repeating Matt.5:8 several times, I was overcome with joy and I saw the risen Christ. It was like a cross of Paul's experience on the Damascus road and the Jailer's experience in Acts 16:34 and my life has never been the same since.

I suspect that won't satisfy you though because you sound like one of those who thinks every conversion must be accompanied with tongues even though it didn't always happen that way in Acts.



I accept the trinity because it is the truth. The Bible is filled with evidence that the Father is God, the Son is God and the Spirit is God. There is one God in Being who reveals Himself in three persons. You are the one who refuses to believe the truth. It is one of the most basic doctrines of the Church and if you think Jesus Christ is not God, then you are not following the One and Only. Jn.1:14



The Spirit generates the human spirit. He does that when one believes in the Lord God. How do you think all the Old Testament saints understood the Kingdom if they were not born again? The majority of whom were never baptized in water. Do you even know what it is to be born of the Spirit? It is something every man must undergo if he wants to know God. It is not something for the Church age alone.



Christ took care of my sins, there is naught I can do to remove them. Indeed, if it were not for the good Lord's determination to save those who believe, I would still be beset by my sin but He nailed them to the Cross and dealt with them once and for all. Now, there is no condemnation for those who walk after the Spirit and if I do slip? I have an advocate with the Father who cleanses me of all sin upon my confession. Do you not know these things?

Colossians 2:14
having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Hebrews 9:12
Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



But you don't, that's the problem. You ignore any scripture that speaks of something different than what you say. We cannot understand the Lord God unless we compare scriptures and learn to see the bigger picture of what is going on.

Do you belong to a Church where you worship and go to hear the word of God taught?



The real problem is you don't separate them correctly. There is one baptism, not two. The baptism of Christ is with the Spirit, not water. A lot has happened in the Church over the years, doesn't make all of it right. You keep refusing to heed Jesus' parting words and forget just like Peter forgot and continued baptizing in water when it was no longer necessary. We have been over this before so not going to explain again.



Why are you asking me this? I explained it in the post you quoted and I have said so much about baptism you should be able to work it out. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves us. The baptism with the Spirit places us in Christ where His death for our sin covers and forgives us and where His life (resurrection) brings us into relationship and new life (salvation).

1 Peter 3:21
There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Baptism now saves us, the one baptism, that is the one the Lord performs which, is with the Spirit placing us into Christ where we share in His resurrection.

Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.



Yes he does. It's a pity you don't.

You have a good day!!!

 

[sawdust]

You have a good day!!!

You never answered where you worship and go to hear the word? Are you not willing to say or did you miss the question?

 

[Genez]

FYI, if he is taking about me should he confront me???

That's taking behind someones back and not letting them have a voice!!

So your upset because I use the word Ghost?

So listening to YOU when I share HIS word and say have you been filled with the Holy Spirit since you have belived and then use HIS WORD to back up what I say like this.

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

William Shakespeare died April 23, 1616. (Age 52)
Some take courses today to decipher his antiquated form of English.

You?

You just use it and think nothing of it.

 

[Genez]

FYI, if he is taking about me should he confront me???

That's taking behind someones back and not letting them have a voice!!

So your upset because I use the word Ghost?

So listening to YOU when I share HIS word and say have you been filled with the Holy Spirit since you have belived and then use HIS WORD to back up what I say like this.

Acts 19
King James Version
19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

I WOULD BE CHANGING HIS WORD!!!

One converstation and the word GHOST 3 TIMES!!

Revelation 22:18-19
King James Version
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

As you can see you are not one to follow.

So is that the only word that I use that you think makes me look stupid?

Tell me what this means reading your King James?

Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, ​

as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from ​

your fathers. 1 Peter 1:18​

​

It is archaic English.
We do not speak that way anymore.

Could we know what it means without doing a search online for the meaning?

 

[Genez]

Learning and knowing "sound doctrine" does not automatically immunize any of us from Satan's attacks. The Reformers studied the scriptures extensively. However, their knowledge and learning did not stop them from killing thousands of Anabaptists when they got into power.

Who says the Reformers understood doctrine "soundly?"
They simple broke loose of the Catholic church and was able to grasp salvation by grace and justification by faith.

They escaped one form of tyranny (the RCC), and in many cases, to enter into their own brand of tyranny.
Religious tyranny was so much in vogue during the dark ages.
The Reformers simply found a way to break free of Rome, which was a step better than being under the pope.

 

[Ouch]

You never answered where you worship and go to hear the word? Are you not willing to say or did you miss the question?

LOL, I was not reading all of your stories.

Note to self, sawdust belives somehow we get filled with living water and when we do our sins are gone.

No reason to show him scripture on how to be saved!!

What does it matter where I go to church I not hear representing my church.

Did I share anything other than HIS word???

I go to a UPC church and if they didn't follow HIS word I would not be going there.

If you would like to visit I sure will give you the adress, but you may not like it for the same reason you don't like what I share.

Do you go to a church?

I have never hear of any church that belives the way you do, I have nerve hear of anyone who belives what you do.