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If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.
 
If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.

To make that means that a lot of conversations in your daily life with others, should lead to God.
Let's say you're having lunch with a co-worker and he or she is having physical or spiritual struggles. The conversation will then lead to God, that we are here because of Him and to pray and be grateful. The world is better is God in your heart. This message may not be accepted by all but it's important to say it because we need to prioritize and be grateful to Him as those verses say.
 
If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.

I see it as this.

1) Deny self: is just fulfilling faith , which applied is a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender. The first thing we think of when we wake up, and the last thing we think of when we go to sleep.

2) take up your cross: is taking on the burdens of others. The blessings we receive from the relationship with Christ are the blessings we have to give others. Our cross is to make other people's cross our own cross.

3) And follow me: is to continue what started and is maintaining the relationship with Him. And that's to continue to surrender our life and will over to Him and live a life inspired by such surrender.

Textbook Christianity.
 
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To make that means that a lot of conversations in your daily life with others, should lead to God.
Let's say you're having lunch with a co-worker and he or she is having physical or spiritual struggles. The conversation will then lead to God, that we are here because of Him and to pray and be grateful. The world is better is God in your heart. This message may not be accepted by all but it's important to say it because we need to prioritize and be grateful to Him as those verses say.

Agree.
 
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What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.

That is a good question. I'll take a stab at it.

Take up your cross daily is a directive. This is a blood covenant with the Lord, His blood. Blood covenants must be renewed daily. So take up your cross daily is to surrender your will to the Lord as your Lord every morning.

Jesus did not promise that following Him is easy or will bring you prosperity. He said the world will hate you for His namesake. You'll be persecuted and hated by the world.

I asked Jesus one time why do we have to suffer so much? He said because providing a soft comfort life does not build character into a spirit, so the tribulations are necessary for our proper spiritual development.

He did say do not fear anything, valley of the shadow of death...that's Earth!

It's sort of like how a worm spins a cocoon around itself and eventually it will emerge as a butterfly. Now if you see a butterfly trying to get out of a cocoon, you may have the urge to help iy and peel away the cocoon, Dont Do It! If you do the butterfly will die. It must be hard for the butterfly to get out of the cocoon because it will strengthen it and make it stronger and able to live!
Same thing.

All the hints are in scripture. He who seeks to save his life will lose it and those who seek to lose their life will find it, something like that.

Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me?

Deny yourself even unto death for Jesus holds death in His hand and He makes life for us. Lord what do you want me to do today? Not my will. Not my agenda. Your will Lord, your agenda. (That is denying yourself.) Now I have taken up my cross and...I will follow you Lord...

Every morning. Every moment of every day. His Will. Some call that being led by the spirit.

Jesus wants all His people to talk to Him so much that they begin to become sensitive to His presence and voice!
 
That is a good question. I'll take a stab at it.

Take up your cross daily is a directive. This is a blood covenant with the Lord, His blood. Blood covenants must be renewed daily. So take up your cross daily is to surrender your will to the Lord as your Lord every morning.

Jesus did not promise that following Him is easy or will bring you prosperity. He said the world will hate you for His namesake. You'll be persecuted and hated by the world.

I asked Jesus one time why do we have to suffer so much? He said because providing a soft comfort life does not build character into a spirit, so the tribulations are necessary for our proper spiritual development.

He did say do not fear anything, valley of the shadow of death...that's Earth!

It's sort of like how a worm spins a cocoon around itself and eventually it will emerge as a butterfly. Now if you see a butterfly trying to get out of a cocoon, you may have the urge to help iy and peel away the cocoon, Dont Do It! If you do the butterfly will die. It must be hard for the butterfly to get out of the cocoon because it will strengthen it and make it stronger and able to live!
Same thing.

All the hints are in scripture. He who seeks to save his life will lose it and those who seek to lose their life will find it, something like that.



Deny yourself even unto death for Jesus holds death in His hand and He makes life for us. Lord what do you want me to do today? Not my will. Not my agenda. Your will Lord, your agenda. (That is denying yourself.) Now I have taken up my cross and...I will follow you Lord...

Every morning. Every moment of every day. His Will. Some call that being led by the spirit.

Jesus wants all His people to talk to Him so much that they begin to become sensitive to His presence and voice!

Wow, lots of good stuff there Edward.

Some of the things that jumped out.

The covenant, so important. I also see it as a contract with God.

Ya the people hating. When we see it from that perspective, you can see it happening, and realize they don't even know why they hate you, because I think it's spiritual. And I'm not immune to that either. If I have that sudden desire to dislike or hate, I've trained myself to take a second look, that person may be one of us.

You touched on one of the things Gods people aren't taught much, and that's that the deeper truths in Gods word are paradoxes. "He who seeks to save his life will lose it." Is one of many examples of that.

His presence is something I cling to, hearing His voice, I always make time to listen.
 
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You touched on one of the things Gods people aren't taught much, and that's that the deeper truths in Gods word are paradoxes. "He who seeks to save his life will lose it." Is one of many examples of that.

His presence is something I cling to, hearing His voice, I always make time to listen.

I dont care what the prosperity preachers say, it costs a person to follow Jesus! And to those that more is given, more will be required. Can't forget that one!

I heard a Testimony from a Pastor/Teacher guy once and he was telling stories about working for the Lord during the night watches. The Lord would translate him somewhere and he had to figure out what to do. And one time he got taken to some sort of an underground Christian church in China, and he was in a room talking to sone other guys and the police or whoever broke in with machine guns and took them all prisoner and he said they brough in 2X4's and they stretched him out and nailed his hands to the 2X4, and then they left the room.

He said it took a long time and was painful but he worked both his hands free over the nails, so it nessed up his hands bad. It was just as he got loose that they swung open the food tray door and seen he was free and he stood up and they put a AK47 through the slot in the door and open fire on him...and he said time slowed down and he could see the bullets coming at him and a portal opened for him and he walked into it and turned to look and the bullets were still coming in slow motion, and the portal collapsed and was gone and then he was in his own bed again!

He said he looked at his hands and they both had red marks and had some soreness but he was ok! No holes in his hands.

To whom more is given, more is required? I dunno if I want that much as he has! Wow.
 
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If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.
a reminder to Phillipians 1:21- "for to me to live is Christ & to die is gain".
 
Paul said he killed his flesh daily.

We are who we are from birth and become comfortable and accustomed to being all about feeding our self, desires and wants.

This is where we begin denying ourselves by no longer allowing the flesh to rule us.

Taking up our Cross is the place were we are killing our flesh like Paul wrote he did daily.

Once we've done the following we are now seeking after Jesus spiritually because the flesh is under control.
 
Paul said he killed his flesh daily.

We are who we are from birth and become comfortable and accustomed to being all about feeding our self, desires and wants.

This is where we begin denying ourselves by no longer allowing the flesh to rule us.

Taking up our Cross is the place were we are killing our flesh like Paul wrote he did daily.

Once we've done the following we are now seeking after Jesus spiritually because the flesh is under control.

Could you elaborate on how you see our flesh being killed daily?
 
Could you elaborate on how you see our flesh being killed daily?
I think generally we have decent self control. Not everyone is an alcoholic, smoker, abuser, cheater, adulter, etc. But we all have something that makes us sin more times than we don't. And whatever that sin might be is the one thing we battle the most.

Someone could be attracted to beautiful women and just can't stop at thinking about them but it might lead them to sin more.

But in order to be completely true to God one needs to control this type of sin and not allow it to rule. This is what Paul was saying. Kill that sin daily. Conquer it. Get your eyes on Jesus and remain faithful. On the days that sin rules are the days you spend more time thinking and struggling with it rather being an overcomer and being in the presence of God.
 
I think generally we have decent self control. Not everyone is an alcoholic, smoker, abuser, cheater, adulter, etc. But we all have something that makes us sin more times than we don't. And whatever that sin might be is the one thing we battle the most.

Someone could be attracted to beautiful women and just can't stop at thinking about them but it might lead them to sin more.

But in order to be completely true to God one needs to control this type of sin and not allow it to rule. This is what Paul was saying. Kill that sin daily. Conquer it. Get your eyes on Jesus and remain faithful. On the days that sin rules are the days you spend more time thinking and struggling with it rather being an overcomer and being in the presence of God.

Unfortunately, I'm more of the second line in your post. I needed something a little, how can i say, more substantial.

For me that daily surrender takes my life out of my hands, and into His. I've proven over and over not to be a good steward of it.
 
For me that daily surrender takes my life out of my hands, and into His. I've proven over and over not to be a good steward of it.

You are good enough.
Don't you ever let anyone tell you otherwise!

Ok, I'm not perfect. You're not perfect. But so what? Nobody's perfect. And the ones claiming to be such a being; you should never trust them. Never.
 
If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.

Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

We cannot put anybody above Jesus or as more important than Him.

Mat 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Jesus said not my will but they will be done.

The cross was Jesus' purpose to provide salvation to mankind which he said it is finished.

We deny ourself and our purpose for God's purpose.

For not our will but His will be done.

We take up our cross by doing the purpose God's wants us do.

We follow Jesus as our Lord and Savior and guidance.
 
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Christianity in a nutshell is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6).
The elaboration of what this imperative implies includes:
  1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or Creator God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who loves sinful humanity (Rom. 5:6-8, John 3:16) and who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
  2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
  3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
  4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), at which moment God’s loving Holy Spirit of Christ indwells/baptizes the believer into the church (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5, 1Cor. 12:13).
  5. Loving Christ Jesus as Lord (Luke 2:11), God the Son (Matt. 16:16) or God in the human dimension (Col. 2:9) means reflecting divine love as empowered by the Holy Spirit, thereby obeying His command to love one another (Matt. 7:21, 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2), which will eventually achieve spiritual maturity on earth and heaven after Christ returns at God’s resurrection (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Phil. 3:12-16, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
Christianity in a nutshell per Jesus is Matthew 22:37-40, but his first few teachings are these:

TOJ #1: Jesus is the Son of God. [Luke 2:49] Jesus’ first pupils were His parents. By the age of twelve Jesus realized that God was His heavenly Father (in fulfillment of Psalm 2:7). John 1:14 states that God’s Word/Spirit was incarnate in Jesus. Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus is God’s Son, “the exact representation of his being.” Insofar as it is possible for the almighty, immortal and invisible God (1Tim. 1:17) to reveal Himself in a mortal human (Rom. 1:3), that person is Jesus (1Tim. 2:5). Jesus is the fullest possible revelation of the superhuman God (Col. 1:19) in the human dimension (Phil. 2:7-8). And with God all things are possible that do not contradict who He is (Matt. 19:26, Heb. 6:18). The “insofar” of this theophany is sufficient, so that the Son of God (Matt. 3:17, 17:5) or Messiah/Christ may be considered as Immanuel (Matt. 1:23) or God the Son {John 5:17-27, 10:25-38, 14:9f., 17:1-5}. This means that God may be understood as a Triunity (See TOJ #7, #49, #52 & #178).

TOJ #2: Obey God’s will. [Matt. 3:15] Notice that the accounts of Jesus’ baptism in the other gospels (Mark 1:9-11, Luke 3:21-22, John 1:31-34) omit this teaching. However, it is a major theme in John’s gospel. {John 5:17, 17:4} (See TOJ #34 & #153.) By being baptized Jesus taught John and others present that He obeyed God’s will for Messiah to identify with sinful humanity.

In John’s gospel Jesus called doing his Father’s will/work His “food” {John 4:34}. It included giving eternal life {John 5:19-21,36}. The work of dying Jesus called His “cup” {John 18:11}, which surely is what was “finished” on the cross {John 19:30}. Jesus also spoke of His coming obedience unto death (TOJ #54) as a “baptism”. {Luke 12:50, Mark 10:38-39, 14:36} Obeying God’s will as codified in most of the Ten Commandments is TOJ #107. Peter taught this truth via a negative example {in Matt. 16:23//Mark 8:33}.

TOJ #3: Learn God’s Word (LGW). [Matt. 4:4//Luke 4:4] This is the first of three truths Jesus tried to teach the devil during a period of testing in the desert (Mark 1:12-13). Satan first tempted Jesus to perform a miracle; just like he tempts us to want to walk by proof rather than by Faith (Matt. 24:24). However, Jesus indicated that God’s Word is the fuel, food {John 6:26-27} and medicine for souls, so if we do not LGW, then we will run out of gas, fail to grow and be spiritually sick. Or, in terms of another passage, our house (life) will be destroyed. {Matt. 7:24-27//Luke 6:47-49}

This TOJ prompts the question: what is God’s Word? The NT affirms most of the books in the OT, and most Christians affirm the books in the NT. The next TOJ indicates that “truth” is God’s Word. Some people identify every word in the Bible with truth, but this view ignores the need for an infallible interpretation in order to establish an inerrant canon and to explain discrepancies, such as one instruction to pray for God’s will to be done (TOJ #34) and another to ask for anything (TOJ #51). A perfect revelation might also be expected to have included teachings to head off future controversies (such as “Thou shalt not murder babies in the womb”) or to answer crucial issues like “God does not prove His will to humanity because doing so would abrogate volition.” (Cf. the next TOJ.)

TOJ #4: Harmonize all truth. [Matt. 4:7a] Jesus implied this important logical principle to apply when seeking the correct understanding of GW by saying, “It is also written”. If the Spirit of God inspired the biblical writers (2Pet. 1:20-21) and created the world (Gen. 1:1-3), then the best interpretation of a TOJ should harmonize the totality of revealed and scientific knowledge. In his second temptation the devil quoted Scripture (Psa. 91:11-12) as though he were heeding the TOJ about LGW, but he attempted to deceive Jesus with a false interpretation so He would perform a miracle. Although Jesus did perform miracles, it was only as necessary in order to establish His church so that Christians could preach salvation via saving Faith in the Gospel/kerygma. (See TOJ #77 & #78.)

TOJ #5: Life is God’s test. [Matt. 4:7b//Luke 4:12b] The verse of Scripture to which Jesus alluded (DT 6:16) shows that it is human souls who must prove to God whom they will serve (Josh. 24:15).

TOJ #6: Worship only God. [Matt. 4:10//Luke 4:8] The account of the third temptation is slightly fuller in Luke (where it is mentioned second). What Satan claimed in verses six and seven (in Luke) are lies. God has not given all authority to Satan; Satan tries to usurp it (Rom. 13:1-5). The only power Satan and people have is permission to disobey and rebel against God’s authority within limits (Gen. 2:16-17, 3:22-24, 6:3, 11:6-9, Job 1:12, 2:6; TOJ #136).

TOJ #7: Accept Jesus as the Lord’s Messiah/Christ. [Luke 4:18-22, 43] This event is omitted in Matthew and Mark. By saying the prophecy of Isaiah 61:1-2 (cf. Isa. 49:5-7, 52:13) was fulfilled, Jesus was teaching that He is God’s Messiah {Matt. 16:16a//Mark 8:29//Luke 9:20}, whose mission is the next TOJ. Jesus asserted this teaching directly {in John 4:25-26}, and it was also taught by the miraculous resurrection of Lazarus. {John 11:25-44}

Another term for Messiah is Son (TOJ #1), which may be why those who doubted asked, “Isn’t this Joseph’s son?” Although Jesus’ role as God’s Messiah is equivalent to His role as God’s Son {Matt. 16:16-18}, both terms are significant enough to justify listing these teachings separately. (Also see TOJ #49, #52 & #131.)

TOJ #8: Repent of Sin/Believe GRFS. [Matt. 4:17//Mark 1:15 & Luke 4:43] Jesus was sent for the purpose of proclaiming the Gospel (good news) about how to be saved from death and hell to eternal life in the kingdom of God/heaven. The way to be saved is to repent of the sin of unbelief or atheism (2Pet. 3:10-13), and believe—not merely in God’s existence (Jam. 2:19), but—in the way that satisfies GRFS.

Repentance or saving Faith was the central theme of Jesus’ preaching. {Mark 1:38} Salvation/heaven was signified by freedom from poverty, captivity, infirmity, sins and their just (miserable) consequences {Matt. 11:4-6//Luke 7:22-23}. Many people scoff at this imperative invitation of Jesus, because “everything goes on as it has since the beginning” (2Pet. 3:3-4). Unfortunately for them, the miraculous proof they demand will be the second coming of Christ in judgment, when it will be too late to repent of sin/evil that results in the opposite of heaven (TOJ #195).

TOJ #9: Blessed are Believers. [Matt. 5:3-12] Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7) begins with a series of blessings called the Beatitudes. (The verb “beatify” means to bless or make happy.) Believers have the Faith implied by “because of me” (Matt. 5:11). Peter’s confession {Matt. 16:16-17} showed his Faith in Jesus as Messiah/Christ/Son of God. Although Believers experience many blessings in the midst of earthly troubles, God’s ultimate blessing is eternal life in heaven (TOJ #154), which is the proper reason or motivation for obeying God’s will, beginning with TOJ #7 & #8 {John 13:17}. (See TOJ #198.) The Beatitudes might be viewed as one general teaching comprised of eight specific examples of ways all true Believers will be blessed, but we will consider each beatitude separately.

LIC, GWH :love:
 
2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

One might assume that the Christian life is defined by the exchange of selfishness (the flesh) for the selflessness of love.

1Co 13:4 Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co 13:5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
1Co 13:6 rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
1Co 13:7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
 
Take up your cross daily is a directive. This is a blood covenant with the Lord, His blood. Blood covenants must be renewed daily.
Um, no.

If a blood covenant had to be renewed daily, Jesus would have to be crucified daily.

That’s ridiculous and borders on heretical.
 
If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.
It's the same in any generation. "Self" is the inner man, the independent individual with likes and dislikes, desires, ambition, opinions and attitudes formed by temperament and upbringing.

Self is not necessarily evil. It is, however, not aligned with God's will. So there are times when God's will and ours clash. This happens daily, especially when we are first saved. Every time we submit to God's will and deny self, we grow stronger in spirit and the hold of self weakens.

In our day, it is ensuring that God comes first in our lives. We start each day with prayer as our priority. We study God's word. We may have to quit playing certain computer games or watching some TV programs. Maybe a friendship has to go. It may be we'll have to do something we'd rather not do. it's an individual thing. What is acceptable for one may be not so for another. And what God tolerated today may have to go tomorrow. I had to quit playing guitar for years until it was no longer an obsession.

And that's the problem with rules based Christianity. If all you do is follow the rules, you may never grow as a believer. It does not say,
"You shall not play guitar" in the 10 commandments.
 
If I had to define Christianity, it would be Mt. 16:24, Mk.8:34 , and Lk. 14:27.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me."

What does that mean ? Deny self, take up your cross, and follow me? Anyone care to describe that in todays world.

To not lead of self or be under anyone else's thrall, (Phil3) careful watch out for others and even self in the way of God's true love for all. See to not manipulate anyone to get anyone under your thoughts, Proverbs 23:1-7. A giant warning to me.
I, willingly die daily to my first born flesh. Since, no first born flesh will ever please God after Son's done work on that cross first Romans 8:1-3 this is to see the new in the risen Son to love e all, no longer a few as I used to choose.
Are we willing for God Father in the risen Son for Daddy, PaPa, Father to lead truth through us each personally? That be between God and you personally Romans 8:15-16
I see Jesus went all the way to the cross willingly, without any flesh fight back at all. Yet was tempted, tried to be tempted to fight back with all the flogging and accusations from others.
Yet when at the cross, he says, Forgive them Father, they know not what they do!
then three days later seen as risen. Acts 1 begins the explanation and. can free anyone in the love and mercy given everyone 1 John 2:1-27