How do we distinguish false Christ & false Prophets according to Our Lord?
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You seem to be overanalyzing things. I’m merely quoting Scripture about certain subjects, and it would seem it’s flying over you.
We only have today to understand His word, it doesn’t matter what they had yesterday (eons ago). Today is all that matters! The Bible is complete so we must live with this.
Besides, the apostles, God’s chosen, knew the Truth via the Holy Spirit teaching them. God wrote down things through them; the Bible is inspired/ God breathed (ie. Men did not write the Bible on their own).
You can never prove your false claims through Scripture. People need to know that your claims are heretical. Repent!
It’s simple, really! The Bible doesn’t support OSAS so it’s heretical. There are so many examples of people falling, and warnings against losing your soul. Oh but OSAS refutes all of those Scriptures. Go figure! People need to know the Truth.
That’s overstating your case. There are many things not supported in Scripture that are nevertheless true and real. What matters is whether the Bible contradicts a particular view.
That God wrote things down through people is certainly one POSSIBLE interpretation of "theopneustos" but not the only one. We simply do not know with any certainty just what Paul meant when he invented the term instead of using the previously used term, although that was likely avoided for political reasons.
As for the Apostles knowing the truth through the Holy Spirit, Acts indicates that the Apostles were sometimes rather hard to convince of the truth, even when the Holy Spirit was attempting to teach, so care must be used in citing them.
As for the Bible being complete, I know that the RCC considers the Bible complete, I am not certain if any other denomination has made that determination though. I know of several that have specifically not closed the canon though.
Thus, it appears that you are making several statements of faith that you wish to present as statements of absolute truth, and they are not.
Since you think that people need to be scholars to understand His word, then you must know?
Why would a loving God+Jesus+Holy Spirit not automatically protect you? Remember Jesus parable of the 100 sheep and the power to find and return it? If the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is powerless to protect you from these things, what is the purpose? Do you believe those "led astray" are subject to a greater power than than God? What is the answer of "If God is for us, who can be against us? The question seem to assumes we live in a power equilibrium between God and Satan with both holding equal power.
I reject that assumption or proposition.
I reject that assumption or proposition.
My point is, it does; as I had said many times before on this subject. Many Scriptures warn us of falling.
Can you give me examples of things not supported by Scripture?
Then I’m sorry for you in not believing Scripture.
-“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,”
II Timothy 3:16 NKJV
-There are plethora of Scriptures indicating that He teaches us things:
“And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to design artistic works, to work in gold, in silver, in bronze, in cutting jewels for setting, in carving wood, and to work in all manner of workmanship.”
Exodus 31:3-5 NKJV
-Prophecy never came by the will of man:
“for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.”
II Peter 1:21 NKJV
What do you suggest we have use if not scripture? Why is there a Bible if we're not to apply it? If we test something to see if it's from God, don't you think His word is a good place to look? Especially as it's scripture that tells us to test things in the first place.....
Nuclear fusion. Microwaves. Internal combustion engines.
There is a plethora of Scripture in the New Testament that warns us from falling away. It would seem you have rejected them and the warnings.
Sadly, ik of many people who no longer have faith. These people are eternally lost….
You accept a specific understanding of scripture based on faith and then assume that your understanding must be correct. I study as deeply as I can, trusting God to direct my studies. Now since we both trust the spirit assisting us in our understanding, how do you distinguish between spirits sent by Satan and the Holy Spirit? Remember, Paul tells us that the gifts of the spirit can be faked, so I trust that you are not relying on such.