Why do so many people call it “Donald Trump's ICE” and actually believe he wants to stop child trafficking

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When they refuse to release 100% of the Epstein files?
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When they refuse to release 100% of the Epstein files?
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There is no reason to push hypotheticals. Look, if Trump is in the Epstein files then we would expect to see the following:

1. Tiny percent of the files released in violation of the order.

2. All kinds of attempts to change the subject --

A. You would see him invading other countries like Venezuela,

B. Threats against other countries like Cuba and Iran

C. Crazy stuff happening domestically, maybe even the shooting of American citizens.

This is what David did when he sent Uriah back to the front lines to be killed.

3. Then instead of people being fired and disciplined you would see the President defend them saying "hey, war is confusing".

Now unless you have seen things like this happen as evidence of a desperate attempt to change the subject these accusations about Trump and Epstein are just not credible.
 
There is no reason to push hypotheticals. Look, if Trump is in the Epstein files then we would expect to see the following:

1. Tiny percent of the files released in violation of the order.

2. All kinds of attempts to change the subject --

A. You would see him invading other countries like Venezuela,

B. Threats against other countries like Cuba and Iran

C. Crazy stuff happening domestically, maybe even the shooting of American citizens.

This is what David did when he sent Uriah back to the front lines to be killed.

3. Then instead of people being fired and disciplined you would see the President defend them saying "hey, war is confusing".

Now unless you have seen things like this happen as evidence of a desperate attempt to change the subject these accusations about Trump and Epstein are just not credible.

You see and then you don't, baffling.
But good post.
 
If Trump was part of the Epstein horrors wouldn't the Dems against him have released that info BEFORE elections, to make him look bad?

that is the best question/point about the whole epstein files issue...
 
If Trump was part of the Epstein horrors wouldn't the Dems against him have released that info BEFORE elections, to make him look bad?
No, it is Mutual Assured Destruction. Also, if the Epstein files are a CIA honey pot the deep state will do whatever it can to protect themselves as much as those who were caught up in the honey pot.

The real question is whether or not the rich and powerful would have allowed someone to become president that they didn't have some serious blackmail over.
 
I disagree. ;)

Of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question

Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

One question I have had for so long is trying to understand why people in Satan's kingdom fight and kill one another? When I was in NYC growing up we were overrun with the Mafia. What you learn is that the police rarely do anything about the mafia, rather it is the mafia that kills other mafiosos. But here we find out why. Are they all serving the prince of darkness? Yes. So why do they kill each other and offer each other up? They will frame each other. From my point of view they are all part of the kingdom of darkness, but not from their point of view. Satan operates by getting people to believe in a lie. How many lies are there? Satan doesn't care, any and all lies other than believing in Jesus is fine with him. The problem is that Sadducees believe in one lie and Pharisees believe in another lie. As a result they will fight with each other. Everyone in Satan's kingdom despises those in the Lord's kingdom. They believe that they are strong. The fundamental cornerstone of Satan's kingdom is not that they have embraced evil, no the fundamental cornerstone is that they are seeking to be "super men". They seek wisdom and power that gives them an edge over other people. Paul did not think he was being evil in consenting to Stephen's death, rather he thought he was stamping out evil. This is why Tim Walz and Donald Trump can both be in darkness and yet fighting against each other.

Now this is a key lesson in spiritual warfare.

Judges 7:22 22 And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the Lord set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath.

The Midianites wound up killing each other.

2 Chronicles 20:22 And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. 23 For the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir, utterly to slay and destroy them: and when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another.

We see this also with Jehoshaphat fighting the children of Ammon and Moab.

Think of Epstein, those involved are terrified that this list will be made public. However, they will not destroy the evidence because it has been used for decades to blackmail powerful people. So they are terrified it will be made public and they are terrified of each other that one person will talk and rat out others. The great fear for any involved in organized crime is that someone will blow the whistle. That is why witness protection is such a powerful tool. why do you think there are a hundred close associates of the Clintons who have committed "suicide"? Why did all those Mafiosos get whacked in "Goodfellows"? Everyone is afraid someone will get caught and then to save their own skin they'll rat out the others.

7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. 8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. 9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God. 10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.
 
Of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question

Acts 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

One question I have had for so long is trying to understand why people in Satan's kingdom fight and kill one another? When I was in NYC growing up we were overrun with the Mafia. What you learn is that the police rarely do anything about the mafia, rather it is the mafia that kills other mafiosos. But here we find out why. Are they all serving the prince of darkness? Yes. So why do they kill each other and offer each other up? They will frame each other. From my point of view they are all part of the kingdom of darkness, but not from their point of view. Satan operates by getting people to believe in a lie. How many lies are there? Satan doesn't care, any and all lies other than believing in Jesus is fine with him. The problem is that Sadducees believe in one lie and Pharisees believe in another lie. As a result they will fight with each other. Everyone in Satan's kingdom despises those in the Lord's kingdom. They believe that they are strong. The fundamental cornerstone of Satan's kingdom is not that they have embraced evil, no the fundamental cornerstone is that they are seeking to be "super men". They seek wisdom and power that gives them an edge over other people. Paul did not think he was being evil in consenting to Stephen's death, rather he thought he was stamping out evil. This is why Tim Walz and Donald Trump can both be in darkness and yet fighting against each other.

Now this is a key lesson in spiritual warfare.

Judges 7:22 22 And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the Lord set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath.

The Midianites wound up killing each other.

2 Chronicles 20:22 And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. 23 For the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir, utterly to slay and destroy them: and when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another.

We see this also with Jehoshaphat fighting the children of Ammon and Moab.

Think of Epstein, those involved are terrified that this list will be made public. However, they will not destroy the evidence because it has been used for decades to blackmail powerful people. So they are terrified it will be made public and they are terrified of each other that one person will talk and rat out others. The great fear for any involved in organized crime is that someone will blow the whistle. That is why witness protection is such a powerful tool. why do you think there are a hundred close associates of the Clintons who have committed "suicide"? Why did all those Mafiosos get whacked in "Goodfellows"? Everyone is afraid someone will get caught and then to save their own skin they'll rat out the others.

7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. 8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. 9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God. 10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.

But we know who is on the Right side here. Are you for illegal alien criminals coming into our country and committing violent crimes, lapping up entitlements meant for our own people, taking away jobs, bringing in drugs, trafficking sex?? Are you for violent protests and then turning a blind eye, and lying about it??

Are you for this hideous Wokism in our schools and businesses, for racism?? Are you for stamping out Christianity and the family way of life? These things are on the Left.

There is most certainly a Right and Wrong side here. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out! Moral character is on the Right, but it’s totally lacking on the Left!!

President Trump isn’t for any of these things. I could care a less what he did in his past as long as he is doing a great job now, and is for Justus for this country, and he is!

MAGA/ MAHA!!
 
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One thing I'm curious about: I hear about all the children that are found, but nothing about child investigations or where they are now.
 
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