You know, Satan's greatest success is not to have made you believe that God doesn't exist, but Satan himself doesn't exist.Yes, aka idols, and the most common form of esteeming false gods is I-dolatry.
You know, Satan's greatest success is not to have made you believe that God doesn't exist, but Satan himself doesn't exist.Yes, aka idols, and the most common form of esteeming false gods is I-dolatry.
I'm not sure which "death" you're questioning, 'cause there're two deaths, mortal death and spiritual death. The term "second death" is specifically used in Rev. 20. This second death is reserved for these evil spirits, whatever or whoever you believe they are, they do exist, they're not imaginary idols, and they're called "gods" or "sons of the most high" in the bible.
I was asking you about your understanding on "WHAT is god" and "WHO is god".
You know, Satan's greatest success is not to have made you believe that God doesn't exist, but Satan himself doesn't exist.
You know, Satan's greatest success is not to have made you believe that God doesn't exist, but Satan himself doesn't exist.
Good, how about carpe diem, leaving what's scheduled to take place at the end of the millennial reign for the end of the millennial reign.An immortal Spirit, like Satan and the fallen angels, can not die. eternal life is eternal, forever.
For Christ to die for mankind, HE had to come in human flesh.
The First Resurrection is for the FEW, those called and chosen before the 1000 years begins.
After the 1000 years, there are possibly over 100 billion that have lived and died, which will return to human life in by a 2nd resurrection.
It is appointed once for men to die and then to be returned to flesh and blood to be judged over a 2nd life time.
Those that refuse to allow Christ to rule over them, refuses to obey -- they die for all eternity in the Lake of Fire, the third resurrection to condemnation.
Every human ever conceived in a womb will get their one opportunity for eternal life.
That's Satan's strategy, the essence of "moralistic therapeutic deism", in which sin is replaced with shame, salvation becomes "living the best version of yourself."Perhaps. I wonder if Satan made A&E believe he didn't exist.![]()
My understanding of God briefly is that He is the One (Deut. 6:4) Almighty (Gen. 17:1) Creator (Gen. 1:1) and Savior (Psa. 42:11, Luke 1:47, Tit. 2:13). My longer explanation begins this way:
I will share my understanding of the NT concept of God, “the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God” (1Tim. 1:17), in terms of seven words. Four terms are used to describe (but not explain and certainly not “box in”) the supernatural power of God: omnipotent (almighty), omniscient (all-knowing/ intelligent), omnipresent (everywhere), and omnitemporal (eternal). “Natural laws” actually are God’s ongoing first miracle (Rom. 1:20), and supernatural resurrection to judgment will be the final miracle (Heb. 9:27-28, 1Cor. 15:12-26).
If the NT is not too good to be true, then the Lord of the universe is neither dictatorial nor distant, but rather relates to humanity. Although we cannot comprehend the infinite God completely, hopefully we can do so sufficiently in order to achieve the type of relationship God desires to have with humanity (John 14:9-25). God desires communion.
1. God’s omnipotence means that He can do everything except “disown Himself” or not be God (2Tim. 2:13). It does NOT mean that God can perform logical absurdities, such as creating a rock too large for Him to move. Omnipotence or sovereignty also means that human MFW has limits with regard to how it can contradict God’s will. God provides morally competent humans the ability to resist His intentional will and plan of salvation (POS) within limits, such as the time limit that will end with death, resurrection (the last miracle) and judgment (per Heb. 9:27)–called His permissive will.
2. God’s power is equivalent to His omniscience. Jeremiah wrote that “God made the earth by his power; he founded the world by his wisdom.” (Jer. 10:12) Many NT passages refer to God as the source of true wisdom (e.g., Acts 6:3, 1Cor. 1:25, Col. 2:2-3, Jam. 1:5). God’s infinitely superior knowledge is extolled in Romans 11:33-34 (echoing Isa. 40:13-14) and Daniel 2:20-23.
Omniscience includes knowledge of people’s thoughts (Psa. 94:11, Matt. 12:25) and the foreknowledge of events (Acts 2:23, Rom. 8:29, 11:2, 1Pet. 1:2). Some people think that God even knows what a person will be/do before that person exists (Jer. 1:5). If this view is correct (which I find incomprehensible a la Kant), it must be maintained that God’s foreknowledge does not predetermine a person’s spiritual choice regarding the satisfaction of God’s requirement for salvation or else moral responsibility would be abrogated. I find it simpler to think that God merely tweaks the river of history occasionally to keep if flowing in the direction He intends but allows the fish to swim as they wish. (Surely this universe is not a replay of a history that has already happened!) God allows eddies in the river of salvation.
3. Omnipotence is connected with omnitemporality (in Rev. 1:18): “I am the Apha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” Romans 1:20 refers to God’s “eternal power”, and Jeremiah 10:10&16 names God “the Lord Almighty”, who is true, living and eternal.
4. God’s infinite power implies omnipresence (per Psa. 139:7-8). God transcends spatial existence while being immanent in all points of space. (Other scriptural support for this view includes 1Kings 8:27, Isa. 66:1, Jer. 23:33, Acts 17:27-28, Rom. 1:20, Eph. 4:6, Col. 1:17 & Heb. 1:3.)
God’s superiority over His creation must be viewed as a matter of degree or quantitatively in order to preserve the continuity between God and humanity that would be requisite for communication (like the need for a common language and culture cited in Part I). However, the Bible teaches that God also differs from creatures in kind or qualitatively, so that attaining equality with Deity is impossible (Isa. 55:9, Eph. 3:19). We can be like God (Gen. 3:3), and we can become one with the Son of God (John 17:21-23), but we cannot become God (cf. Humanism).
As finite morals our comprehension is limited, but Scripture indicates that God wills to exist in the physical dimensions and is omnipresent in space, but we should not idolize it as pantheism, just as we should not engage in Bibliolatry, even though God as the HS also exists in the dimension of Logos/GW. However, per the NT God approves of worshipping Him as revealed via the human dimension of Jesus as Son.
In addition to the omni-attributes related to power, Paul referred to God’s “nature” (in Rom. 1:20), which may be described in three ways: love, truth and justice. These often are called the moral attributes of God.
5. The Bible says that God is love and true love comes from God (1John 4:7-21, Rom. 5:5), so volitional creatures or souls can love only by reflecting, imitating or cooperating with the Creator’s love. Although the Bible speaks of God hating Esau (Mal. 1:3) and other evil people (Hos. 9:15), Jesus’ teaching of love for enemies (Matt. 5:44) reveals that God loves all creatures including Satan but hates their sinful choices (Ezek. 33:11). Seven NT Scriptural pearls teach divine omnilove: 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4.
It seems logical to assume that the all-loving God would create the best possible world or one in which the greatest percentage of persons may attain ultimate joy (1Tim. 2:3-4, 2PT 3:9). God may have created all possible kinds of worlds simultaneously: the world of dead matter, the world of living plants, the world of intelligent animals, and the world of morally accountable souls/humans. God’s world/way is best.
6. The Bible teaches that God is truth (John 1:17, 8:40, 15:26, 17:17), so all truth is from God and manifests God’s Spirit. If any atheists are truthseekers, then they are not far from the kingdom of God (Mark 12:34, 2Thes. 2:10, John 18:37), because Jesus promised that those who seek will find (Luke 11:9&13). Of course, if the truth is that there is no God or heaven, then what we believe is no more significant than the ideology of a rock or some other evolved collection of atoms (Eccl. 3:20)! Truth or God’s Word is represented in the Bible as light (John 1:1-9), which also signifies God’s glory (Luke 2:9).
7. The Bible also teaches that God is justness or righteousness (Rom. 3:25-26, 9:14, 2Thes. 1:6). This doctrine is called theodicy. It means that we should be careful lest our explanations of God’s will seem unloving or unfair. If a person cannot explain how a loving God could order the execution of babies (Josh. 6:17, 8:2), then possibly He did not do so. Another synonym for justness is goodness (Isa. 5:16).
No, let me rephrase: Satan's biggest lie is not "there's no God", but "there‘s no Satan," "there's no evil," "there's no sin."What?? Satan does not exist --- Christ is a liar? the bible lies?
Good, how about carpe diem, leaving what's scheduled to take place at the end of the millennial reign for the end of the millennial reign.
No, let me rephrase: Satan's biggest lie is not "there's no God", but "there‘s no Satan," "there's no evil," "there's no sin."
No, let me rephrase: Satan's biggest lie is not "there's no God", but "there‘s no Satan," "there's no evil," "there's no sin."
It is impossible to know God the Father directly, because he's beyond the time-space continuum, any attempt to characterize him is putting him in a box to fit your own perception. God Himself once said to Moses that no man can see Him and live. The only way to know Him is indirectly through Jesus the son, a human being who took on flesh and dwelt with us.
Leave tomorrow for tomorrow, seize today.don't under stand your comment
And the sons of God are in his company (Job 1:6), so they're real spiritual entities, not imaginary idols, that was the entirety of my point. God was not judging carved statues like king Lear judging two empty chairs represting his two evil daughters.I agree, Satan is the big deceiver and the father of lies.
You don't know that. All Moses saw was an all consuming fire, even the flame in the bush self identifying as YHWH was an Angel of God (Ex.3:2), through whom God the Father communicated with Moses.God, that Moses saw, is Jesus Christ, not the Father. Christ is the Rock that followed for 40 years.
What is revealed in the OT as God, is Christ, Christ came to reveal to us the Father.
And the sons of God are in his company (Job 1:6), so they're real spiritual entities, not imaginary idols, that was the entirety of my point. God was not judging carved statues like king Lear judging two empty chairs represting his two evil daughters.
It is impossible to know God the Father directly, because he's beyond the time-space continuum, any attempt to characterize him is putting him in a box to fit your own perception. God Himself once said to Moses that no man can see Him and live. The only way to know Him is indirectly through Jesus the son, a human being who took on flesh and dwelt with us.
Again, are we the redeemed, to judge deity??It has nothing to do with JW, "gods" are explicitly mentioned in Ps. 82, in which God judges among "gods", "judging angels" seems like the fulfilment of it. If that's true, then the bible identified them as "gods". I have made it clear, that there's only one Lord God YHWH who created the universe, any other heavenly host is a small g "god" or "son of God".
God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods.
How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked?
Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.
Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.
They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.
I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.
But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”
Arise, O God, judge the earth;
For You shall inherit all nations. (Ps. 82)
" Explain why an immortal spirit, that CAN INHABIT A HUMAN BODY, has no need of air, water or food to live and were not, according to Christ, created to reproduce or with " equipment "to do so, would find human women desirable and take them as wives"? They, controlled by Satan, used the "equipment " of the humans that they inhabited to try to stop the "seed of the woman " (Gen. 3:15) from manifesting on the earth. There would be a mixture human and angelic seed, through which the seed of the woman ( Jesus ) could not come. It had to be pure Adamic seed. Hence Noah, who still carried the unmixed Adamic seed. That's why the earth was full of wickedness, " And God saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5. WHY, " There were giants( results of the mixture of seeds) in the Earth in those days, when the sons of God(fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown" Genesis 6:4. These men of renown, could they be Hercules, Apollo, etc., etc., of Greek "mythology"? I think so.I do not find that to be true.
Paul stated God never called angels "sons of God", they are created only to assist in our salvation.
Explain why an immortal spirit, that can inhabit a human body, has no need for air, water or food to live and were not, according to Christ, created to reproduce or with "equipment" to do so, would find human women desirable and take them as wives? Think about the problems we as humans have with marriage.
Stop and think about all that means --- food, housing, protection, caring for children -- why would a spirit that needs none of that -- take on those problems -- for sex????
Do you understand why humans desire and enjoy sex? simple because we are created with a hormone system that brings pleasure chemically.
spirit has no chemicals, no hormonal system
" Explain why an immortal spirit, that CAN INHABIT A HUMAN BODY, has no need of air, water or food to live and were not, according to Christ, created to reproduce or with " equipment "to do so, would find human women desirable and take them as wives"? They, controlled by Satan, used the "equipment " of the humans that they inhabited to try to stop the "seed of the woman " (Gen. 3:15) from manifesting on the earth. There would be a mixture human and angelic seed, through which the seed of the woman ( Jesus ) could not come. It had to be pure Adamic seed. Hence Noah, who still carried the unmixed Adamic seed. That's why the earth was full of wickedness, " And God saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." Genesis 6:5. WHY, " There were giants( results of the mixture of seeds) in the Earth in those days, when the sons of God(fallen angels) came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown" Genesis 6:4. These men of renown, could they be Hercules, Apollo, etc., etc., of Greek "mythology"? I think so.