Thank you for your empathy Dee. You are correct about suffering. Suffering leads to endurance. Endurance leads to faith and faith leads to wisdom. Just remember we may be in this world but we are not of this world. We are supposed to count ourselves blessed for our suffering. After all, who suffered and died for our sins? I hope you feel better. One day your tent will be no more and you will spend eternity with peace, no pain and no more tears. Blessings, Steven
This is how to follow the Lord Jesus. Who can explain?
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I don't know of any scriptures, that support the idea that; "every generation could read God's commandment for the forgiveness of sin."
I know the following verses are quoted by those who believe that salvation is dependant on keeping the commandments;
John 14:15 "If you love me, keep my commandments."
1 John 2:3-5 "By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments... But whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected."
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."
1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome."
John 15:10 "If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love."
None of these verses say that salvation is dependant on our keeping the commandments.
The righteousness of Christ is imputed to those who have been converted and are born again, our sins will not be counted against us.
Romans 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
We are free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 8:33 Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
John 5:24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
The core problem here is that you don’t know how to read the Bible.
When my recognition to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father.
I read my bible the way man's teaching.
Now my recognition to Jesus is a revelatino from God (Matthew 16:15-17)So God taught me how to read it.
ISAIAH 28:10
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
You grab a couple of verses and conclude that every time God speaks, He is speaking in parables. That is simply wrong but you stubbornly stick to it.
Yes, I believe in God the Father when he said he is speaking in parables (Psalms 78:2 & Ezekiel 20:49)
And so everytime I read my bible I beg to him and ask for his Mercy so he will reveal the meaning as he did in John 2:19 & 20
JOHN 2:19 & 21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
You read where Jesus gave direction to one specific person in one specific case and you think it’s a “commandment” for everyone.
It is your own decision not to consider it as Commandment and it is up to you if you don't want to follow.
The truth is it is a Commandment and whoever not to follow will not escape the punishment.
I don't want the readers be punished by ignoring the commandment.
ROMANS 2:12
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
You consistently reject attempts at instruction. You continue to post “for the benefit of others” but you are posting your own uneducated opinions that contradict the wisdom of scholars.
You are free to follow what the bible scholars teach. God the Father will not control your decision.
But let me follow what God the Father teaches.
Please, stop pretending that you have anything helpful to offer. You are just causing confusion. You need to learn before you attempt to teach
I said this already and let me say it again.
I'm not teaching. I'm sharing the truth. And so I'm not forcing or convincing anyone to believe me. But I have to share what is the truth. I'm following what the Lord Jesus said.
MATTHEW 10:8
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Teaching are those forcing the listeners to believe what they preach. And they are waiting to be praised by the listeners as compensation on what they do. If the listeners don't believe them then they get mad and they use curse words.
These are the false Prophets in our generation.
I don't know of any scriptures, that support the idea that; "every generation could read God's commandment for the forgiveness of sin."
God the Father ordered his chosen to write the words of God to know the Commandments of God.
The use is so that every generation would read and know. Because by not knowing the law is not an excuse. And by not knowing the law could not forgive the sins.
But by knowing the law and know how to fulfill it. Sins will be forgiven.
This is the scripture where it is written.
ROMANS 2:12
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law
When you post Scripture without your comments, you are posting truth. When you add your comments, truth gets mixed with error.
That’s not how it works. Sin is never forgiven through knowing and fulfilling the law. Remission of sin requires the shedding of blood.
This is a perfect example of your concerning ignorance of Scripture. What you share is not truth.
It is not a personal comment.
It is a God given understanding to the truth that must be shared to everyone.
When the recognition to Jesus is a revelation from the Father (Matthew 16:15-17)
Even in this thread you can notice those who are teaching because they are using swear words.
Sin is never forgiven through knowing and fulfilling the law.
Sin is forgiven by fulfilling the law.
But it requires to know the one true God to fulfill the law.
Because God will be the one to reveal on how to fulfill God's law.
Without knowing who God the Father is, there is no fulfillment of the law.
I don't think you understand what you saying on this.
Remission of sin requires the shedding of blood.
The understanding of the Apostles of Lord Jesus in the words of God is not a personal comment.
It is a revelation from God in which they just share as the truth to the Jews.
Even to Lord Jesus himself.
The Scribes & Pharisees accusing him that what Jesus saying is a personal comment only. But it is not a personal comment. It is the truth.
JOHN 10:33
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
You will never understand what I'm saying as long as you can't identify who God the Father is.
And so my sharing is for other readers who will humble themselves after the Lord and ask his Mercy so God will introduce himself to them.
You may not stop the spreading of the truth.
Because God would not allow those who don't want to enter into the kingdom of heaven and they are shutting the door of heaven to the others.
You may shut the door of heaven for you.
But let the others who want to enter.
MATTHEW 23
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Romans 2:12 confirms that both Jews and Gentiles are under sin and face perishing due to their fallen nature and actions.
The principle of divine judgment is that those with more light (the Jews with the Law) are judged by a stricter standard, while those without the written law (Gentiles) are judged by the law of conscience/nature, both resulting in a verdict of guilty.
Possession of the Law or outward religious signs (like circumcision) does not save; only, the "doers of the law" are justified, which points to the need for imputed righteousness from Christ, since no one keeps the law perfectly.
Because all sin—whether under the law (Jews) or without it (Gentiles). Romans 2:12 functions to "shut every mouth" and prove that justification is by grace through faith, not by works.
Your comments about what the text of Scripture "means" are indeed personal. They are not equal to the text of Scripture.
I reject your warped understanding of how to "identify who God the Father is" because it is not based on a sound understanding of Scripture.
It is very difficult for the people today (who believe the holy bible) that Lord Jesus is speaking in parables.
Despite Jesus already told them.
MARK 4:34
34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
MATTHEW 13:10
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me
And so, people are giving their personal ubderstanding.
Other said it i snot a commandment.
Others are saying it is intended to th eruler only.
More people chose not to humble themselves to Lord Jesus.
So the words of Jesus in his time never passed away even in our generation today.
MATTHEW 22:14
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
What you fail to understand is that Jesus did not always speak in parables. To the general public audience, yes, He did, and said so. To His disciples, He spoke plainly, as it is written. Mix them up and you are left with Scripture that is meaningless.
To assume all Scripture is parables is to think you are smarter than all the Bible scholars who have actually studied Scripture. You think the “revelation” you supposedly have from God puts your individual view above 2,000 years of interpretation.
You are acting with arrogance, stubbornness, and self-righteousness.
The recognition to Jesus must be a revelation from God the Father.
And it requires a humbleness so that God the Father will reveal who Jesus is.
The recognition of the Disciples of Christ was revealed by God the Father.
The demonstration of God in all of this is in Matthew 16:15-17
With that, the Disciples were able to communicate with Jesus.
That is why most of the time we can read in the words of God, the Disciples ask and Jesus answer them like what happened in Matthew 13:10-12.
Since Jesus is still with us in our generation today. He is the words of God that we read.
REVELATION 19:13
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
He is the holy bible that we carry.
HEBREWS 10:7
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Therefore the chosen of God in our generation could talk to Jesus the way the Disciples talk to him.
And Jesus will answer in his way through his words.
Because your recognition to Jesus is just after what a man understanding in the words of God including your own understanding in the words of God and you believe them.
If you lived in the New Testament, you were one of the Scribes & Pharisees. Once the Lord Jesus speaks they use their own intellect to understand the words coming from the mouth of Jesus.
JOHN 2:19-20
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
But the Disciples of Jesus. When Jesus Speaks they ask.
MATTHEW 13:10-11
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
In your case you never talk to Jesus as the Disciples did. Because your recognition to Jesus is not a revelation from the Father.
Upon reading in your bible that Jesus is speaking in parables in Mark 4:34. Then you use your own intellect to understand it.
That is why you come into conclusion that What you fail to understand is that Jesus did not always speak in parables.
And so to believe Jesus that he is speaking in parables it is just a acting with arrogance, stubbornness, and self-righteousness.
But in our case along with my brethren.
When we read Mark 4:34 we ask Jesus. With the same question as his disciples Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
What about your words that very clear in our understanding? How they become parables?
And Jesus answered us through his words in the holy bible.
To Jesus, those arrogance, stubborn & self righteous are those who think for themselves that they are wisemen in the words of God. And so instead of asking Jesus in order to learn. What they do is they teach the people. They are positioning the role of God as Rabbi.
You keep claiming these things despite having no evidence to support them, and not knowing anything about me.