Alcohol Damages Health

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Why do people drink? That’s the real question. Why? For what purpose? If not for a legitimate medical reason (and if they aren’t using that as an excuse to drink), what reason is there? Usually, the reason why is because they like it and like how it makes them feel.

No doubt that's why.
A teenager doesn't drink his first beer and hard liquor because it tastes so good. There's plenty of sugar dense beverages for that.

If a teenager never starts drinking and gets through his early twenties without getting drunk, he will likely obstain the rest of his life.
 
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No doubt that's why.
A teenager doesn't drink his first beer and hard liquor because it tastes so good. There's plenty of sugar dense beverages for that.

If a teenager never starts drinking and gets through his early twenties without getting drunk, he will likely obstain the rest of his life.
In today’s time, I see no good reason to drink at all.
 
Why do people drink? That’s the real question. Why? For what purpose? If not for a legitimate medical reason (and if they aren’t using that as an excuse to drink), what reason is there? Usually, the reason why is because they like it and like how it makes them feel.
Before coming to Christ I drank a lot. Like way too much. It started as a social thing when I was young and by the time I hit my late 30’s it was more of an attempt to escape depression. Needless to say that didn’t work. After coming to Christ I still drank a few but stopped getting drunk. Don’t take me long to realize the only reason I was drink to begin with was to get drunk. I absolutely hated the taste. Whereas I used to hammer back a fifth of Jim Beam straight after a 12 pack of beer, I now want to vomit just from the smell of it. So anyways I haven’t had a drop since then. Looking back on those drinking years, I don’t remember once waking up saying I’m glad I drank last night. I see nothing wrong with others drinking. But like anything moderation and you should ask yourself why are you doing it. Alcohol can be great for clearing up colds and other sicknesses. It can also destroy the liver if overdone for too long. My stepdad learned that the hard way unfortunately and is no longer with us. But honestly the garbage processed food that’s eaten nowadays is way unhealthier than alcohol.
 
In today’s time, I see no good reason to drink at all.

I've never seen anything good come from drinking it. Many families were broken and harmed.
The only times I've heard of any starting are rare occasions when a couple met in a bar and actually did get married.
There are plenty of warnings and bad examples in the Bible for us to learn from too. I hope any teenagers reading this thread will remember that.
 
In another thread there are drunks advocating for drinking the booze claiming it's healthy... but recent medical studies are now proving that NO amount of alcohol is healthy for one's body

it's known medical fact that alcohol is harmful to your health and Christians
have been bought with a price they are not their own and are called to glorify
God in their bodies (1 Corinthians 6:19-20) so drinking alcohol is sinful behavior.

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy;
for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Christians have no right to abuse their body by ingesting alcohol.
Those that don't take their relationship with the Lord seriously
would be the ones drinking booze while claiming to be Christians.



Medical STUDY - No Safe Level of Alcohol
Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle Washington

Paris (AFP) - Even an occasional glass of wine or beer increases the risk of health problems and dying, according to a major study on drinking in 195 nations that attributes 2.8 million premature deaths worldwide each year to booze.

"There is no safe level of alcohol," said Max Griswold, a researcher at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle, Washington and lead author for a consortium of more than 500 experts.

Despite recent research showing that light-to-moderate drinking reduces heart disease, the new study found that alcohol use is more likely than not to do harm.

"The protective effect of alcohol was offset by the risks," Griswold told AFP in summarising the results, published in medical journal The Lancet on Friday.

"Overall, the health risks associated with alcohol rose in line with the amount consumed each day."

Compared to abstinence, imbibing one "standard drink" -- 10 grammes of alcohol, equivalent to a small beer, glass of wine or shot of spirits -- per day, for example, ups the odds of developing at least one of two dozen health problems by about half-a-percent, the researchers reported.

Looked at one way, that seems like a small increment: 914 out of 100,000 teetotallers will encounter those problems, compared to 918 people who imbibe seven times per week.

"But at the global level, that additional risk of 0.5 percent among (once-a-day) drinkers corresponds to about 100,000 additional deaths each year," said senior author Emmanuela Gakidou, a professor at the University of Washington and a director at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

- 'Less is better, none is best' -

"Those are excess deaths, in other words, that could be avoided," she told AFP.

The risk climbs in a steep "J-curve", the study found.

An average of two drinks per day, for example, translated into a 7.0 percent hike in disease and injury compared to those who opt for abstinence.

With five "units" of alcohol per day, the likelihood of serious consequences jumps by 37 percent.

The "less is better, none is best" finding jibes with the World Health Organization's long-standing position, but is at odds with many national guidelines, especially in the developed world.

Britain's health authority, for example, suggests not exceeding 14 drinks per week "to keep health risks from alcohol to a low level".

"There is always a lag between the publication of new evidence and the modification and adoption of revised guidelines," said Gakidou, who admitted to being an "occasional drinker" herself.

"The evidence shows what the evidence shows, and I -- like 2.4 billion other people on the planet that also consume alcohol -- need to take it seriously."

Overall, drinking was the seventh leading risk factor for premature death and disease in 2016, accounting for just over two percent of deaths in women and nearly seven percent in men.

The top six killers are high blood pressure, smoking, low-birth weight and premature delivery, high blood sugar (diabetes), obesity and pollution.

But in the 15-49 age bracket, alcohol emerged as the most lethal factor, responsible for more than 12 percent of deaths among men, the study found.

- The 95 percent club -

The main causes of alcohol-related deaths in this age group were tuberculosis, road injuries and "self-harm", mainly suicide.

King's College London professor Robyn Burton, who did not take part in the study, described it as "the most comprehensive estimate of the global burden of alcohol use to date."

The examination of impacts drew from more than 600 earlier studies, while a country-by-country tally of prevalence -- the percentage of men and women who drink, and how much they consume -- drew from another 700.

Both were grounded in new methods that compensated for the shortcomings of earlier efforts.

Among men, drinking alcohol in 2016 was most widespread in Denmark (97 percent), along with Norway, Argentina, Germany, and Poland (94 percent).

In Asia, South Korean men took the lead, with 91 percent hitting the bottle at least once in a while.

Among women, Danes also ranked first (95 percent), followed by Norway (91 percent), Germany and Argentina (90 percent), and New Zealand (89 percent).

The biggest drinkers, however, were found elsewhere.

Men in Romania who partake knocked back a top-scoring eight drinks a day on average, with Portugal, Luxembourg, Lithuania and Ukraine just behind at seven "units" per day.

Ukranian women who drink were in a league of their own, putting away more than four glasses or shots every 24 hours, followed by Andorra, Luxembourg, Belarus, Sweden, Denmark, Ireland and Britain, all averaging about three per day.

Source - https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-tolerance-no-safe-level-alcohol-study-says-224245668.html
in the order for you to say, "there are drunks....." you would have had to met those people & they would have had to told you that indeed, they are drunks. 1st Timothy 5:23- "drink no longer water but use a little wine for thy stomachs sake & thine often infirmities". i use to drink 30 to 40 alcoholic drinks in the span of 3 to 4 hours & i didn't even reach the state of being tipsy. my brothers & friends were the same way. so its possible to drink that much & not be a drunk. also, my temperance was still accountable, reliable, respectable & responsible. i would never suggest anyone to drink or teach them how to drink & handle alcohol. any person will sense their brain telling them when they are beginning to feel lightheaded. & as for Christians you have that & the Holy Spirit nudging you when to stop.
 
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Eat and drink in moderation, and give thanks to God who gave us both Food and Drink to enjoy!!!
The key is to do BOTH of these things in moderation.

For me, I was an alcoholic from age 14 to 27. God reversed this curse in me. Showing me why I was that. I saw it, turned from it. been dry now over 42 years now, thank God, not myself, I never would have seen to do this in agreement to God between God and me if God never showed me truth in the reason why I was drunk to begin with.
For me it was because my youngest sister died in 1973 and I would not accept this. So I went into Alcoholism over it. Yet, Once God showed me the problem, I was not accepting her as dead, I started drinking too much not wanting to face to believe it is true, even though I saw here dead body in that casket at the funeral. I saw the truth and stopped drinking at age 27, I was 14 when she past away. I am 69 now. And I have gone through many other problems as well. Still in process, God never stops loving us all, y'all. I know now, to put past behind me and remain in the present in trust to God, learning new from mistakes made, seeing from God nothing can separate me form his love and mercy given me through Son. And anyone else too
1 John 2:1-27 I let go of myself personally for Father to lead, your turn too, thank you if you or anyone else reading this have not yet
It is time to go into your own prayer closet and shut the door, so not other forces can enter with between Father and you, two, woe is mr Isaiah 6:1-7
 
I do not drink, never have and do not recommend it for various reasons. Drunkenness is a sin (Eph. 5:18), so the question we must ask is at point does one begin getting drunk? Or at one point does one begin getting high on drugs? And in order to know when you begin to get drunk, you’d first have to get drunk, otherwise you’d never know when you have went over your limit, which is a sin!! But then over time, one’s tolerance builds up to it. What once impaired your judgment may eventually feel “normal,” so you continue drinking, and so you don’t think you are drunk. Before you know it, you are drunk!! That’s why the safest, wisest route is complete and total abstinence (unless it’s for strictly a medicinal purpose, 1 Tim. 5:23, and even then it’s to be “a little”)!!

Safest advice: Don’t drink!!

The same can be said with food too. Some people can’t eat certain foods; for whatever reason, allergies, addiction, I’m sure the list goes on…..

This doesn’t mean that it’s a sin for others to eat and enjoy those foods….. Eat and drink with thanksgiving asking God to bless both…..
 
For me, I was an alcoholic from age 14 to 27. God reversed this curse in me. Showing me why I was that. I saw it, turned from it. been dry now over 42 years now, thank God, not myself, I never would have seen to do this in agreement to God between God and me if God never showed me truth in the reason why I was drunk to begin with.
For me it was because my youngest sister died in 1973 and I would not accept this. So I went into Alcoholism over it. Yet, Once God showed me the problem, I was not accepting her as dead, I started drinking too much not wanting to face to believe it is true, even though I saw here dead body in that casket at the funeral. I saw the truth and stopped drinking at age 27, I was 14 when she past away. I am 69 now. And I have gone through many other problems as well. Still in process, God never stops loving us all, y'all. I know now, to put past behind me and remain in the present in trust to God, learning new from mistakes made, seeing from God nothing can separate me form his love and mercy given me through Son. And anyone else too
1 John 2:1-27 I let go of myself personally for Father to lead, your turn too, thank you if you or anyone else reading this have not yet
It is time to go into your own prayer closet and shut the door, so not other forces can enter with between Father and you, two, woe is mr Isaiah 6:1-7

My condolences to you and your family. It’s never easy to lose a family member. I lost my dad when I was 7 so I know how hard it was.

I’m happy to hear you found Christ! Best thing ever!!
 
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The same can be said with food too. Some people can’t eat certain foods; for whatever reason, allergies, addiction, I’m sure the list goes on…..
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Not quite. Your answer shows you are very [willfully] ignorant on this issue. Any other comment from you on this matter will be met with the same answer from me.
 
Before coming to Christ I drank a lot. Like way too much. It started as a social thing when I was young and by the time I hit my late 30’s it was more of an attempt to escape depression. Needless to say that didn’t work. After coming to Christ I still drank a few but stopped getting drunk. Don’t take me long to realize the only reason I was drink to begin with was to get drunk. I absolutely hated the taste. Whereas I used to hammer back a fifth of Jim Beam straight after a 12 pack of beer, I now want to vomit just from the smell of it. So anyways I haven’t had a drop since then. Looking back on those drinking years, I don’t remember once waking up saying I’m glad I drank last night. I see nothing wrong with others drinking. But like anything moderation and you should ask yourself why are you doing it. Alcohol can be great for clearing up colds and other sicknesses. It can also destroy the liver if overdone for too long. My stepdad learned that the hard way unfortunately and is no longer with us. But honestly the garbage processed food that’s eaten nowadays is way unhealthier than alcohol.

I enjoy wine with a meal, Euro habit/ culture. However, I only drink on occasion.
Scripture states to drink a little wine for your stomach’s sake and frequent infirmities. It is a healthy thing with food. Anything fermented, food/drink is good for health.
 
Not quite. Your answer shows you are very [willfully] ignorant on this issue. Any other comment from you on this matter will be met with the same answer from me.

So what do you think I’m ignorant about?
I know you can’t legitimately give me any verses that prohibit us from drinking.

This prohibition comes from false doctrine from the last 150 yrs, or so.
 
@TruthDefender, I hate cats, so I’m going to put you on ignore that way I won’t be able to see your profile picture of that vile cat. You are also very argumentative, as you want to continue to argue until you have the last word, because I’ve dealt with your kind before. You don’t like or want to believe or admit you can be wrong or incorrect, so you’ll continue to argue until you get the last word, but that’s not going to happen with me as I’m going to put you on ignore from here on out. It will save us both the trouble and peace of mind. I don’t have time for people like you. Some people (such as yourself) want to put yourself up where you do not belong. I advise you learn your place. Goodbye. No more seeing nonsense that spews from you.
 
I know you can’t legitimately give me any verses that prohibit us from drinking.
Will it do any good? For the ones who want to drink it won’t. Why? Because they want to drink. Simple as that. You are very [willfully] ignorant on this issue. Goodbye now.
 
in the order for you to say, "there are drunks....." you would have had to met those people & they would have had to told you that indeed, they are drunks. 1st Timothy 5:23- "drink no longer water but use a little wine for thy stomachs sake & thine often infirmities". i use to drink 30 to 40 alcoholic drinks in the span of 3 to 4 hours & i didn't even reach the state of being tipsy. my brothers & friends were the same way. so its possible to drink that much & not be a drunk. also, my temperance was still accountable, reliable, respectable & responsible. i would never suggest anyone to drink or teach them how to drink & handle alcohol. any person will sense their brain telling them when they are beginning to feel lightheaded. & as for Christians you have that & the Holy Spirit nudging you when to stop.

So you’re saying Jesus, the Jews, and the disciples were sinning?? Wow!!!

Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into the best wine ever. Try explaining your little article to Jesus…..
 
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@TruthDefender, I hate cats, so I’m going to put you on ignore that way I won’t be able to see your profile picture of that vile cat. You are also very argumentative, as you want to continue to argue until you have the last word, because I’ve dealt with your kind before. You don’t like or want to believe or admit you can be wrong or incorrect, so you’ll continue to argue until you get the last word, but that’s not going to happen with me as I’m going to put you on ignore from here on out. It will save us both the trouble and peace of mind. I don’t have time for people like you. Some people (such as yourself) want to put yourself up where you do not belong. I advise you learn your place. Goodbye. No more seeing nonsense that spews from you.

This is what I thought. You can’t defend yourself with Scripture so you revert to being cheeky. By all means, ignore the Truth.

Many people did the same thing in Jesus’ day, and today is no different!

Bye bye, be ignorant and ignore Truth.
 
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Will it do any good? For the ones who want to drink it won’t. Why? Because they want to drink. Simple as that. You are very [willfully] ignorant on this issue. Goodbye now.

Where are the verses?? Why do you follow false doctrine, and the commandments of men??
 
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So you’re saying Jesus, the Jews, and the disciples were sinning?? Wow!!!

Jesus’ first miracle was turning water into the best wine ever. Try explaining your little article to Jesus…..
you are another person ASSUMING what i said. i NEVER mentioned the word "SIN". i said what i meant & i meant what i said!!! read it again, slow, be honest with yourself & grasp the meaning what i said as if you were a student in school, then you'll understand. blessings to you.
 
I choose to abstain from alcoholic drinks for many reasons. If others want to drink, then that is their choice, but the safest and wisest for me (and others) is not to drink. For me, If I never drink then I will never become an alcoholic. For me, I will never have to worry about becoming one. For me, I will never have to worry about whether I’m sinning or being in violation of my conscience. For me, I will never have to worry about going over “the limit”. For me, I will never have to worry about whether I’m drunk. For me, I will never have to worry about being a bad influence. For me, I will never have to worry whether I’m being filled with wine (or any other alcoholic drink).

If it’s not a sin to drink and I never drink, then I’m not sinning by not drinking. And if it is a sin and I don’t drink, then I’m still not sinning. If it’s not a sin and I do begin drinking, then I’m opening up myself for a lot of worries and a lot of violations on my conscience and mind. That’s why the safest and wisest route today (for me) is not to drink.

Some people demand explicit Scripture of a “Thou shalt not” to prove something shouldn’t be done, (as if the absence of a direct prohibition automatically makes it acceptable). Yet those same people do not apply that standard consistently for other actions in life or worship.

In other words, they require proof for some choices or behaviors but not for others, even when the same logic about wisdom, holiness, or proper living would apply.
 
The Higher Gospel strikes again. Well, at least we know he's not drunk. Stoned maybe? Whatever he's smoking, I'll take a hard pass.

According to the scriptures, Christ not only consumed wine, but made it. Were it alcohol free, I doubt the captain of the feast would have spoken of His wine so highly. Christ also preached against drunkenness. Paul advised Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach. Strange? Not really.

Is it really all that difficult to understand Gods thoughts on alcohol. Or to refrain from judgment, or placing unnecessary burdens upon people? Apparently for some, it absolutely is.

Being completely transparent, I'm not a big drinker, but I do have a very difficult time eating Mexican food without a Negra Modello to wash it down with. I drank two beers just last night, and I have to admit, I felt a little guilty, but its been almost five months since I last had an alcoholic beverage. During that time, I've consumed maybe a twelve pack of soda. Now that's something I actually feel seriously bad about each and every time I do it. Soda is straight poison, and my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, I know better.

I wonder if the OP drinks soda, eats fast food, or maybe indulges in the occasional Little Debbie? Whatever the case, I do pray that he eventually learns that its not what goes in the mouth that defiles a man.