How true is this
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The Golden chain of salvation
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified".
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified".
yes, do you seek his word to see if your faith lines up with his word, and do you obey his commands
Then well if you do these things you can have assurance your saved.
So it's not just love him and have affection we have to obey his commands. Do you do that perfectly?
thats why you seek his word, which isn't daily necessity to see if your faith is lining up with his word, you can seek the inner Christ to
It's not like you have to carry your bible around with you at all times, you could do tho like you could have a little 4 gospel version in your inside pocket.
You didn't answer the question. I answered yours.
We don't get to pick and choose when we obey do we? And if we don't obey love and affection alone won't cut it right?
If you love him you will keep his commands which is to obey him.
So you will know if something isn't right and you will seek him for assurance
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So then why would you need to make sure you're staying in track?
So you're absolutely certain you're saved. Presumption.
his word commands we seek assurance
and is available to all people as it makes you produce works and assures you that you have grace.Roman Catholics teach assurance is only available to the Catholic saints who have been martyred, meaning you can't have assurance, and you should walk round feeling unsure about your salvation. Which is basically a zombie. No thanks I prefer assurance
his word commands we seek assurance
Roman Catholics teach assurance is only available to the Catholic saints who have been martyred, meaning you can't have assurance, and you should walk round feeling unsure about your salvation. Which is basically a zombie. No thanks I prefer assurance
Your don't have assurance you have presumption. Not the same.
What I may or may not be is irrelevant but every tome you people can't address the topic they what you refer to. It's sad to watch actually because you clearly can't adequately defend your position without that. All you have is the presumption your salvation is assured based solely on the circular reasoning they you believe it. You can't prove you specifically are saved you just presume it.
What haven't I defended that I havnt already defended.
It's sad that your rejecting whats being told to you with this assertion.
Have you heard of Stigmata
It's sad that you think I should just accept what's being told to me. I'm STILL waiting for anyone if you people to show evidence that your understanding not scripture is authoritative, other than you says so.
Yes what about it?