Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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cv5 said:
I will call your 4min 22 second video and raise you 34 hours.
This 34 hours is merely background material.
But it might be enough of a shock to fry out those Reformed-infected neurons that need fixing.

https://christianchat.com/threads/gods-will-vs-mans-free-will.216406/post-5377472

https://christianchat.com/threads/gods-will-vs-mans-free-will.216406/post-5377473
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stephen a chronister He is not described as a university professor, but rather as a pastor who provides high-level post-seminary biblical teaching
 
cv5 said:
The church has done itself a great disservice by "dumbing" itself down over the years.

The “Inspirational Prosperity Christianity” Churches depend upon this invaluable ingredient to maximize $$$cash flow$$$ and salaries.

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Shameful.... yet on the other side, the churches with "reformed" doctrine are equally shameful, but in a different way.

Why would you give a dime to a church that preached no one has any choice whether to choose God or not?
What is the point?
Calvinism is Nihilism wrapped up in a Christian package and it is dead wrong.

The nihilism was loud and clear in some of those panels.
 
HeIsHere said:
Shameful.... yet on the other side, the churches with "reformed" doctrine are equally shameful, but in a different way.

Why would you give a dime to a church that preached no one has any choice whether to choose God or not?
What is the point?
Calvinism is Nihilism wrapped up in a Christian package and it is dead wrong.

The nihilism was loud and clear in some of those panels.
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one thing that reformed and unreformed faith agree on is that unregenerate man cañ not choose Christ
 
HeIsHere said:
Shameful.... yet on the other side, the churches with "reformed" doctrine are equally shameful, but in a different way.

Why would you give a dime to a church that preached no one has any choice whether to choose God or not?
What is the point?
Calvinism is Nihilism wrapped up in a Christian package and it is dead wrong.

The nihilism was loud and clear in some of those panels.
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Augustinian pseudo-philosophical gnostic "religion"?
 
Just_A__Follower said:
Definitely agree that one must know about God before knowing God. But there are many that spend so much time on that first step that they never make it to the second step. If one is not able to grasp the deeper concepts we should help them, not put them down. We should also recognize the difference between a teacher and a scholar. One knows the information and the other knows how to convey the information. A scholar may know more but what good is the knowledge if it can’t be conveyed properly to others?
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Well, I would say there is a difference between unable to grasp and not wanting to grasp because it may cause discomfort to one's accepted view.

Agree, they do say a good teacher is someone that can take complex concepts and teach them in such a way so that they are accessible to all his/her students.
 
Jordon said:
one thing that reformed and unreformed faith agree on is that unregenerate man cañ not choose Christ
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That assumption predicated upon woeful Biblical illiteracy.
This Biblical illiteracy the consequence of and unserious, lazy state of mind.
 
HeIsHere said:
Total inability is a reformed doctrine.
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I am reviewing this lecture (already heard it a few times) in reference
to my ongoing Hebrews 6 and 10 studies ( :oops:PASSOVER PATTERN ALERT :oops:).
But Chronister's always gets around to actual free will in every lecture.

FF to exactly 22:37 to get to the "man centric not God centric" description of Reformed ideology.

And Chronister correctly explains Rom 8:28-29.
Another key: "gave" to first Adam, "gave" to Second Adam!

But to get the picture you will have to back up a few lectures and get it all.
No small effort and being "unserious" will get you nowhere @Jordon

Thieme needs to be consulted to get the true word order (and meaning) of Rom 8:28-30 in the Greek as well.
I have posted it earlier.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/1262211929639/

The point is that Reformed soteriology is biblically illiterate nonsense and should be discarded.
 
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cv5 said:
I am reviewing this lecture (already heard it a few times) in reference
to my ongoing Hebrews 6 and 10 studies ( :oops:PASSOVER PATTERN ALERT :oops:).
But Chronister's always gets around to actual free will in every lecture.

FF to exactly 22:37 to get to the "man centric not God centric" description of Reformed ideology.

And Chronister correctly explains Rom 8:28-29.
Another key: "gave" to first Adam, "gave" to Second Adam!

But to get the picture you will have to back up a few lectures and get it all.
No small effort and being "unserious" will get you nowhere @Jordon

Thieme needs to be consulted to get the true word order (and meaning) of Rom 8:28-30 in the Greek as well.
I have posted it earlier.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/1262211929639/

The point is that Reformed soteriology is biblically illiterate nonsense and should be discarded.
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"The point is that Reformed soteriology is biblically illiterate nonsense and should be discarded."

Yes as someone once stated......

Calvinism gives you a cruel, capricious God, obscures divine love, makes God the actor in all sin, promotes fatalism, undermines missions, creates doubt in salvation and is all based upon the denial of context!!


Thanks I have not listened to this one yet.
 
cv5 said:
I am reviewing this lecture (already heard it a few times) in reference
to my ongoing Hebrews 6 and 10 studies ( :oops:PASSOVER PATTERN ALERT :oops:).
But Chronister's always gets around to actual free will in every lecture.

FF to exactly 22:37 to get to the "man centric not God centric" description of Reformed ideology.

And Chronister correctly explains Rom 8:28-29.
Another key: "gave" to first Adam, "gave" to Second Adam!

But to get the picture you will have to back up a few lectures and get it all.
No small effort and being "unserious" will get you nowhere @Jordon

Thieme needs to be consulted to get the true word order (and meaning) of Rom 8:28-30 in the Greek as well.
I have posted it earlier.

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/1262211929639/

The point is that Reformed soteriology is biblically illiterate nonsense and should be discarded.
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This still doesn't address my request of you providing a profesor.
 
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