The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[mailmandan]

Who was God talking to ...

Heb 8:10 KJV For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Jer 31:31-33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

So, what about the Gentiles?

Romans 11:25 - For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 3:6 - that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel.

 

[mailmandan]

You agree that the 7th day (Saturday) was made holy, blessed and sanctified at creation and was holy up until the law was give and up until the cross..

No other 24 hour day was made holy.
What did it mean to be holy?
It means to be set apart, sacred, and dedicated to God or a divine purpose, ....

Holy things in the bible were set apart..

Exo 3:5 And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. Act 7:33 Then said the Lord to him, Put off thy shoes from thy feet: for the place where thou standest is holy ground.

Eze 22:8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths.

When it is Holy it is important not to defile it.
Exo 16:23 ...To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD:...
HOLY SABBATH.

Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD:...
HOLY TO THE LORD.

I would be careful when you walk all over the HOLY SABBATH DAY, and treat it with no respect. Don't defile what God has made holy.
No verse shows that the Sabbath is no longer Holy.

Mar 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

This verse is referring to marriage but it can apply to anything God has put together. Marriage was set in place at creation and so was the Holy Sabbath day.

Let no man put asunder what God has set in place.

I never said that the sabbath day is not holy or that I wish to defile it, walk all over it or treat it with no respect. That is a straw man argument. You need to be careful with judging. (Colossians 2:16-17) You are not an ancient Israelite who is under the law of Moses (Exodus 31:12-17; 35:1-3; Deuteronomy 5:1-15) but if you wish to remain on the old covenant plantation of law, then be my guest, but count me out. I will stick with the ministry of righteousness under the new covenant that exceeds much more in glory than the ministry of condemnation under the old covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:6-9)

 

[mailmandan]

I didn't feel like my last sentence was very clear ..... I'm repeating what SabbathBlessing said

The word rest is used many times in chapter 4 of Hebrews, but the word in verse 9 is not the same. The word in verse 9 is sabbatismos (See the post above).. and is sabbath rest, or keeping the sabbath. This is important because there remains a sabbath rest.
It didn't say there remains a rest.

The other word for rest is ... G2663
Transliteration: katapausis
Thayer Definition:
= a putting to rest
calming of the winds
a resting place
metaphorically the heavenly blessedness in which God dwells.

There remains a sabbath for the people of God.

Hebrews 4:9 - There remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. (NASB) Everyone should take note that the Greek word “sabbatismos” here is used nowhere else in the Bible. I often hear Sabbatarians suggest that this is the word for "keeping the weekly sabbath" when it is never used anywhere else in the Bible!

W. E. Vine, Greek Dictionary points out:

Sabbath rest (4520) (sabbatismos from sabbatízo = keep the Sabbath) literally means a keeping of a sabbath or a keeping of days of rest. It is used in this passage not in the literal sense (meaning to keep a specific day, the "Sabbath" day) but to describe a period of rest for God’s people which is modeled after and is a fulfillment of the traditional Sabbath.

SABBATISMOS a Sabbath-keeping, is used in Heb. 4:9, R.V., "a Sabbath rest," A.V. marg., "a keeping of a Sabbath" (akin to sabbatizoµ, to keep the Sabbath, used, e.g., in Ex. 16:30, not in the N.T.); here the Sabbath-keeping is the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law.

Because this Sabbath rest is the rest of God Himself, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into divine “rest,” that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words)

Sabbath rest (4520) sabbatismos by Greek Word Studies

 

[SabbathBlessing]

There are two easy ways to know Col 2:16 is not speaking of the seventh day Sabbath in the 4th commandment.

The first way is to reconcile Scripture with Scripture.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Its about the sabbath(s) (Col2:16) that were nailed to the Cross.

Did the weekly Sabbath commandment get nailed to the Cross?

First lets go to what Jesus said- did He say it would be nailed to His Cross? If anyone would know would it not be He?

Isa 56:6“Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)​

Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,​

And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—​

Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,​

And holds fast My covenant—​

7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,​

And make them joyful in My house of prayer.​

Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices​

Will be accepted on My altar;​

For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”​

​

What is His house of prayer? Lets let the Bible interpret the Bible in this case- Jesus

He quoted on this prophecy

Mat 21:13 And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ”​

His house of prayer was the temple or house of God for worship.

Was there ever a time where all nations- Jews and Gentiles came together on the Sabbath before the Cross? No. Does His prophecies come true? Yes.

Jesus related the Sabbath being kept by His faithful in prophecy until His Second Coming- so the Sabbath is related to prophecy of His Second Coming

Mat 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.​

23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.​

26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.​

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.​

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And the Sabbath will continue in the New Heaven and New Earth

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass​

That from one New Moon to another,​

And from one Sabbath to another,​

All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.​

Going by the words of Jesus alone we know God's Sabbath, the holy day of the Lord did not get taken away at the Cross.

Jesus prophesized these things about the Sabbath- does it play out in Scripture.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So immediately after the Cross, was the Sabbath in the 4th commandment nailed to it?

Luke 23: 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.​

So obviously the Sabbath according to the commandment- the one that was written by the finger of God, not the sabbath(s) written by the hand of Moses was kept right after the Cross, not nailed to it.

Jesus predicted those who do not defile the Sabbath would come together in His house of prayer for all nations- did that happen after the Cross

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.​

If it was something that ended at the Cross the apostles would be correcting the people, but did they on Sabbath-keeping

Acts 13: 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.​

Of course not because Jesus predicted His house would be a house of prayer for all nations- Jews and Gentiles for those who keep His Sabbath

The Sabbath was part of the council for Gentiles just as Jesus said-the foreigners (Gentiles) who join themselves to serve Him and keep His Sabbath Isa56:6-7

Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”​

Jesus said:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.​

The apostles observed every Sabbath, with both Jews and Gentiles just as Jesus commanded them because it is one of God's personally written commandments and what Jesus predicts always comes true.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.​

​

What we don't see after the Cross, because it was nailed to the Cross was the annual sabbath(s) that had to do with animal sacrifices that were handwritten by Moses placed besides the ark of God's covenant that the Bible calls as shadow laws, animal sacrifices and offerings Heb10:1-10 what Jesus was predicted to end Dan9:27

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

There are two easy ways to know Col 2:16 is not speaking of the seventh day Sabbath in the 4th commandment.

The first way is to reconcile Scripture with Scripture.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Its about the sabbath(s) (Col2:16) that were nailed to the Cross.

Did the weekly Sabbath commandment get nailed to the Cross?

First lets go to what Jesus said- did He say it would be nailed to His Cross? If anyone would know would it not be He?

Isa 56:6“Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)​

Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,​

And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—​

Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,​

And holds fast My covenant—​

7 Even them I will bring to My holy mountain,​

And make them joyful in My house of prayer.​

Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices​

Will be accepted on My altar;​

For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”​

​

What is His house of prayer? Lets let the Bible interpret the Bible in this case- Jesus

He quoted on this prophecy

Mat 21:13 And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ”​

His house of prayer was the temple or house of God for worship.

Was there ever a time where all nations- Jews and Gentiles came together on the Sabbath before the Cross? No. Does His prophecies come true? Yes.

Jesus related the Sabbath being kept by His faithful in prophecy until His Second Coming- so the Sabbath is related to prophecy of His Second Coming

Mat 24:20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the [c]elect’s sake those days will be shortened.​

23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.​

26 “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.​

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.​

​

And the Sabbath will continue in the New Heaven and New Earth

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass​

That from one New Moon to another,​

And from one Sabbath to another,​

All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.​

Going by the words of Jesus alone we know God's Sabbath, the holy day of the Lord did not get taken away at the Cross.

Jesus prophesized these things about the Sabbath- does it play out in Scripture.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So immediately after the Cross, was the Sabbath in the 4th commandment nailed to it?

Luke 23: 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.​

So obviously the Sabbath according to the commandment- the one that was written by the finger of God, not the sabbath(s) written by the hand of Moses was kept right after the Cross, not nailed to it.

Jesus predicted those who do not defile the Sabbath would come together in His house of prayer for all nations- did that happen after the Cross

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.​

If it was something that ended at the Cross the apostles would be correcting the people, but did they on Sabbath-keeping

Acts 13: 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.​

Of course not because Jesus predicted His house would be a house of prayer for all nations- Jews and Gentiles for those who keep His Sabbath

The Sabbath was part of the council for Gentiles just as Jesus said-the foreigners (Gentiles) who join themselves to serve Him and keep His Sabbath Isa56:6-7

Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.”​

Jesus said:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.​

The apostles observed every Sabbath, with both Jews and Gentiles just as Jesus commanded them because it is one of God's personally written commandments and what Jesus predicts always comes true.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.​

​

What we don't see after the Cross, because it was nailed to the Cross was the annual sabbath(s) that had to do with animal sacrifices that were handwritten by Moses placed besides the ark of God's covenant that the Bible calls as shadow laws, animal sacrifices and offerings Heb10:1-10 what Jesus was predicted to end Dan9:27

So many words

Now the end of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of unfeigned faith.: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. 1 Timothy 1:5-7​

 

[mailmandan]

If we confess and believe we will be saved... ? Anyone can confess and believe. But the confession and belief that is not connected with a CHANGED HEART is not sincere..

Anyone can give "lip service" confession and believe "mental assent" certain facts about Christ, but that is not what Paul is talking about in Romans 10:9,10. In 1 Corinthians 12:3, we read - Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except BY the Holy Spirit. There is divine influence or direct operation of the Holy Spirit in the heart of a person when confessing Jesus as Lord. This confession is not just a simple acknowledgment that Jesus is the Lord (even the demons believe that), but is a deep personal conviction that Jesus is that person's Lord and Savior.

So simply believing in our head (and not in our heart) that God raised Him from the dead does not result in righteousness and simply giving "lip service" to the words "Jesus is Lord" not by the Holy Spirit is not unto salvation.

So, the changed heart = repentance and righteous works, = true confession and true belief.

Repentance is a change of mind and the new direction of that change of mind is true belief in Christ. Righteous works are the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8; Acts 26:20) and true confession is a confirmation of true belief. Romans 10:8 - But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach).

Jas 2:18-20
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

In James 2:14, we read of one who says/claims (key word) he has faith but has no works (to evidence his claim). That is not genuine faith, but a bare profession of faith. So, when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" he is saying nothing against genuine faith, but only against an empty profession of faith/dead faith. So, James does not teach that we are saved "by" works. His concern is to show the reality of the faith professed by the individual (James 2:18) and demonstrate that the faith claimed (James 2:14) by the individual is genuine.

The devil's know and believe and tremble that Jesus is Lord.

In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe in/have faith in/trust in Jesus Christ for salvation. In other words, the demons do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance are in Satan (and not in Jesus) as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works. There is a difference between mere "mental assent" belief (as the demons have) and saving belief in Christ, which the demons do not have, and only genuine believers do have.

Don't seperate faith and works..

Faith is the root of salvation and works are the fruit. No fruit at all would demonstrate there is no root. That is how they are not separated. Now don't infuse them together like Roman Catholics do and teach that we are saved through faith "infused" with works and then those works become the very essence of faith and they also become meritorious for salvation.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[NightTwister]

twistednight
please explain why I should open my self and others to the utterly satanic insane that are taking over this world?

I am not part of the 40,000 which some are capable of great harm -- but the fringe as we are seeing around the world, love to see people bleed.

You negatively assess every other church, but refuse to allow scrutiny of yours. You claim purity without any evidence. You're only fooling yourself.

 

[Dino246]

twistednight
please explain why I should open my self and others to the utterly satanic insane that are taking over this world?

Yet to open yourself to the “satanic insanity” of disrespect when you corrupt his user name.

 

[vassal]

Wrong.

2 Timothy 3:16.

No I am not wrong, you do not believe a word Jesus said! you prove it with every post. if you did you would listen to him like he asked us to do Even GOD spoke at Jesus transfiguration saying;
Mat 17:5 While Peter was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him!”

Mrk 9:7 Then a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him!”

Luk 9:35 And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him!”

So why don't you listen to him? Do not tell me that you do that is not true. 100% of what we all need to have eternal Life is 100% from Jesus and no one else and no one can contest this.

Jesus told us that HE has the words that give eternal life and that the master is greater than the student

Jesus made it clear that the life He offers comes through His own words, because His words carry the Spirit and bring true life. He said, “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life” (John 6:63 ). When many people turned away, Peter understood this truth and said, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life” (John 6:68 ).

Jesus also taught that a disciple cannot rise above the one who teaches him, and a servant cannot be greater than his master. He said, “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master” (Matthew 10:24 NKJV), and again, “A servant is not greater than his master, nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him” (John 13:16 NKJV).

 

[Dino246]

No I am not wrong, you do not believe a word Jesus said!

When your posts degenerate into personal attacks that are utterly stupid, you demonstrate that reason and respect have become irrelevant to you.

You shall henceforth be treated accordingly.

 

[memberofthebride]

Yet to open yourself to the “satanic insanity” of disrespect when you corrupt his user name.

you are right and I repent

 

[memberofthebride]

You negatively assess every other church, but refuse to allow scrutiny of yours. You claim purity without any evidence. You're only fooling yourself.

Those I fellowship with and my self hold zero beliefs of the 40,000, how can I agree with what I consider incorrect?
If you want to know what I believe, I do all things Christ did and told His disciples to do.
I observe clean and unclean meat, the Sabbath and the High Holy Days and what the Apostles did and taught.
I live according to the 10 Commandments, not perfectly as I am not yet perfect.

there are more and more, I am finding on line, coming to this Way. here is one

God's prophets and Christ, say the day is coming when those that follow Christ will be persecuted and killed by those believing they do God, thus; Christ, a service -- I am not willing to bring that day on.

 

[NightTwister]

Those I fellowship with and my self hold zero beliefs of the 40,000, how can I agree with what I consider incorrect?
If you want to know what I believe, I do all things Christ did and told His disciples to do.
I observe clean and unclean meat, the Sabbath and the High Holy Days and what the Apostles did and taught.
I live according to the 10 Commandments, not perfectly as I am not yet perfect.

there are more and more, I am finding on line, coming to this Way. here is one

God's prophets and Christ, say the day is coming when those that follow Christ will be persecuted and killed by those believing they do God, thus; Christ, a service -- I am not willing to bring that day on.

So you're SDA. Makes sense.

 

[Gideon300]

There is nothing wrong with God's laws, what He does is forever Ecc3:14 He makes no mistakes, we do by not keeping them. They are perfect Psa19:7 and holy Rom7:12 the issue was the hardness of the heart, why the location changed of God's laws, written in the heart based on the promise of what He will do, we still have to cooperate with Him, not everyone does Heb8:7-8.

Well done. You manage to take the grace of God and place it firmly under the law. Of course, you have to ignore much scripture to do so. If you are relying on law to save you, you are going to hell. It's that simple.

 

[Gideon300]

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I repented of transgressing God's Holy Torah, I was baptized and by the "laying on of Hands", one of the major doctrines of Christ. my Father put His Spirit in me over 50 years ago.

I have had many trials and many blessing over those 50 years and I am still working on coming out of this evil world. My Father has been at my side the entire time, He never gave up on me. At my lowest point my Father never left me.

I am being judged now, my Father has placed HIS ONE Spirit in me which gives me the willingness and the power to follow Jesus Christ. and long as I endure this evil world and DO the will of my Father, at the return I will become a member of the Family of God -- a Son.

Why would judgement come after I am resurrected? Why give any eternal life unless they qualify? the Father will not have another like Satan, who refuses to obey -- in His Family

The first Resurrection is for those that have endured until the end, Like Paul states, I have run my race and am ready and my Crown is sure. Paul knew he was assured of eternal life in the Family of God, "not word for word"

My Father has opened my mind to His Word and I understand the Perfect Plan He is working out here on earth. I understand it is the FEW that are given to understand -- not two billion.

I do not, nor will I ever === follow any of the contradicting doctrines of the 40,000.

Do you know the doctrines of the 40,000? You are amazing.

 

[Gideon300]

Those I fellowship with and my self hold zero beliefs of the 40,000, how can I agree with what I consider incorrect?
If you want to know what I believe, I do all things Christ did and told His disciples to do.
I observe clean and unclean meat, the Sabbath and the High Holy Days and what the Apostles did and taught.
I live according to the 10 Commandments, not perfectly as I am not yet perfect.

there are more and more, I am finding on line, coming to this Way. here is one

God's prophets and Christ, say the day is coming when those that follow Christ will be persecuted and killed by those believing they do God, thus; Christ, a service -- I am not willing to bring that day on.

You reject God's word. God removed the prohibition on what kinds of food we may eat. You can do as you please, but you have no right to try and impose your views, which directly contradict God's word, on other believers.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

No I am not wrong, you do not believe a word Jesus said! you prove it with every post. if you did you would listen to him like he asked us to do Even GOD spoke at Jesus transfiguration saying;
Mat 17:5 While Peter was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him!”

Mrk 9:7 Then a cloud appeared and enveloped them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him!”

Luk 9:35 And a voice came from the cloud, saying, “This is My Son, whom I have chosen. Listen to Him!”

So why don't you listen to him? Do not tell me that you do that is not true. 100% of what we all need to have eternal Life is 100% from Jesus and no one else and no one can contest this.

Jesus told us that HE has the words that give eternal life and that the master is greater than the student

Jesus made it clear that the life He offers comes through His own words, because His words carry the Spirit and bring true life. He said, “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life” (John 6:63 ). When many people turned away, Peter understood this truth and said, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life” (John 6:68 ).

Jesus also taught that a disciple cannot rise above the one who teaches him, and a servant cannot be greater than his master. He said, “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master” (Matthew 10:24 NKJV), and again, “A servant is not greater than his master, nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him” (John 13:16 NKJV).

Oh, I understand you now when you said all scripture is not equal!

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Well done. You manage to take the grace of God and place it firmly under the law. Of course, you have to ignore much scripture to do so. If you are relying on law to save you, you are going to hell. It's that simple.

Grace is not a license to sin or break God’s law. 1John3:4 James2:11

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?

The law can’t save us, its kept, because its a consequence of salvation, not a means to it.

Rev 14:12 Here is the [a]patience of the saints; here[b] are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Those who don’t keep it, according to Scripture is sin, rebellion, disobedience and unbelief which Scripture uses interchangeably Heb3:7-19

I can’t take someone serious who takes the place of God to condemn someone to judgement. That’s for God and God alone. I have never been on a website that operates on constant insults is the norm, yet alone a professed Christian website who claims love to their neighbor is supposed to be standard Christian living. Guess all will get sorted out soon enough.

 

[vassal]

When your posts degenerate into personal attacks that are utterly stupid, you demonstrate that reason and respect have become irrelevant to you.

You shall henceforth be treated accordingly.

you have a lot of nerve, in the last month how many personal attacks from you and your "pals" on my posts, you want me to count them? hundreds.

 

[NightTwister]

I can’t take someone serious who takes the place of God to condemn someone to judgement.

No one did that. You were given a warning. Your response is to bear false witness (one of your previous ten). Then you complain about personal attacks, which also didn't happen. Again, bearing false witness. You should probably concern yourself with that log in your eye.