The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[BillyBob]

I have a fear for those who believe that they now lead a sinless life. There has only been one who could accomplish that, and it was our Savior, Jesus.
I pray for them and hope that they soon come to realize their error. Otherwise, they may find themselves standing before Christ saying: “Have I not reached the point of perfection? Have I not achieved that which your word says is impossible?” And He will say to them “I never knew you, depart from me!”.
I would never wish that on anybody!

Please see mailman's post below, which speaks to the impossibility!

1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

1 John 2:1 - My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Christians neither practice sin nor are sinless and perfect 100% of the time.

 

[mailmandan]

I have a fear for those who believe that they now lead a sinless life. There has only been one who could accomplish that, and it was our Savior, Jesus....

Those who believe they live a sinless, perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus Christ lived) are suffering from a terminal case of self-righteousness. (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8-10)

 

[HigherGospel]

I have a fear for those who believe that they now lead a sinless life.

In other words you don't believe the Blood of the Lamb has the power to cleanse you and you don't believe the Holy Spirit is able to empower you to exercise self control (one of the fruit of the Spirit) to refrain from sinning???

1 Corinthians 15:34
Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

Sadly these people who have been taught and trained to be sin conscience are completely befuddled by what Jesus told the woman caught in adultery and must claim Jesus is a liar or otherwise does not know what He's talking about and they continue to believe they are still sold under sin and cannot stop engaging in sinful behavior as they go around proudly proclaiming "I'm still a sinner, look at me!"

John 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Man can live free from sin as in not knowingly or willingly doing things that are sinful.
Sadly they don't believe the Lord can strengthen them to stop sinning so they continue in sin

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Those led by the Holy Spirit do not do sinful things, but they may occasionally make mistakes such as forgetting to do something, dropping something on the floor, etc of which are falling short of God's absolute perfection which are automatically cleansed as we see in 1 John 1:7

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from ALL sin.

What 1 John 1:7 does NOT automatically cleanse us from is when we knowingly or willingly doing things that are sinful or if we do things God says in His Word are sinful and we claim we don't think it's sinful.

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

So it is quite possible to live sin free before the Lord and experience the Lord treating you as though you are sin free if we are being led by the Holy Spirit based on what God has said in His Word which IS Truth.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

New Man - Put on Christ

What makes us children of God is IF we answer the Father's call to abide in Christ having turned away from our old life of sin and walk with Him in newness of life

Ephesians 5:1
Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

Ephesians 4:22-24
put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Romans 13:14
put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Colossians 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of Him that created Him:
2 Corinthians 6:17
come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

This is what baptism is supposed to be about... making a covenant with the Lord, a public declaration of faith, a commitment to put off the old man and put on the new man and to walk in newness of life

Romans 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

We are called to cooperate with the Lord, to be co-laborers with Him. He made us in His Image, so we have free will... the Lord desires for us to willingly choose to turn away from our old life of sin and come abide In Christ and not turn away, ever!

1 Corinthians 3:9
We are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

It's God's work, His power, His ability... but WE have to choose to accept His offer to be His children and turn from darkness to walk with Him in the Light

Romans 8:1-4
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[HigherGospel]

Please see mailman's post below, which speaks to the impossibility!

Yeah sadly this fellow is well versed in being sin conscience giving many reason why Christians should not put off the old man and put on the New Man

Ephesians 4:22-24
That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Being disobedient to the Lord ends badly as the disobedient will soon find out about first hand.

 

[HigherGospel]

Let's add to the befuddlement of those them reject putting on the new man who want to waller around in the old man being sin conscience believing they are still sinners who cannot cease from sin:

These scripture references will make their heads explode!


Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect

2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Philippians 3:15
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man
perfect in Christ Jesus:

1 Thessalonians 3:10
Night and day praying exceedingly that we might see your face, and might perfect that which is lacking in your faith?

2 Timothy 3:17
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 2:10
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God

Hebrews 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Hebrews 9:9
Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Hebrews 10:1
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 11:40
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Hebrews 13:21
Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:22
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

James 3:2
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

1 Peter 5:10
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

1 John 4:17
Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

 

[Inquisitor]

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

You seem to be confused.

Is salvation a free gift we are given by the grace of Jesus Christ?

If you answer is yes TMS then that means there is nothing you can do to be saved.

You are actually talking about staying saved, continuing in the faith, being obedient.

There is a monumental difference between the gift of salvation and your resultant obedience.

 

[Inquisitor]

Yeah sadly this fellow is well versed in being sin conscience giving many reason why Christians should not put off the old man and put on the New Man

Ephesians 4:22-24
That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Being disobedient to the Lord ends badly as the disobedient will soon find out about first hand.

Our salvation is a free gift given to us because we called on the name of the Lord.

Romans 10:13
For “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

All you need to do is lock in the gospel which states that we are saved by grace through faith.

Then after we have submitted to the only reason for our salvation, that is, Jesus Christ.

We then follow as best as we can in obedience to the Lord's instructions or commandments.

Everyone mixes their obedience with that free gift of salvation to be saved.

Which is blasphemy and utter lawlessness.

What Christ has done for you is eternal but your obedience varies depending on the day.

 

[Inquisitor]

Let's add to the befuddlement of those them reject putting on the new man who want to waller around in the old man being sin conscience believing they are still sinners who cannot cease from sin:

These scripture references will make their heads explode!


Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect

2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Philippians 3:15
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man
perfect in Christ Jesus:

1 Thessalonians 3:10
Night and day praying exceedingly that we might see your face, and might perfect that which is lacking in your faith?

2 Timothy 3:17
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 2:10
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God

Hebrews 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Hebrews 9:9
Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Hebrews 10:1
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 11:40
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Hebrews 13:21
Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:22
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

James 3:2
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

1 Peter 5:10
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

1 John 4:17
Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

It's all about your obedience.

The scripture says the opposite.

Romans 10:9
That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him
from the dead, you will be saved.

Your confused.

 

[Inquisitor]

there are seven, not 3. God's number 7 showing Spiritual perfection and the human Body, in which is the Spirit of the Father, is the temple in which The Father's ONE Spirit dwells after the laying on of hands.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which [temple] ye are.

It would be rare for me to make a statement that can not be backed up with clear scriptures

Keep boasting about your understanding of the scripture.

Boast in Jesus Christ and nothing else.

 

[Inquisitor]

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 6: 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

You have not explained the reconciliation that was granted to us below.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things
have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave
us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself,
not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

The Lord said He is "not counting their trespasses against them".

You say He is counting every trespass against them.

It seems that you are reconciling yourself to God.

 

[pinebeach]

In other words you don't believe the Blood of the Lamb has the power to cleanse you and you don't believe the Holy Spirit is able to empower you to exercise self control (one of the fruit of the Spirit) to refrain from sinning???

Do you have a problem with comprehension or are you just enjoying yourself trolling in this thread?

 

[TMS]

You have not explained the reconciliation that was granted to us below.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things
have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave
us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself,
not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

The Lord said He is "not counting their trespasses against them".

You say He is counting every trespass against them.

It seems that you are reconciling yourself to God.

I have never said God will count every trespass against me.

I have been clean about my belief in righteousness by faith.

I'll make it clear for you... and it fits the bible perfectly.

Transgression = sin
Sin = death. Guilty of death. Justice.
Death = a need for reconciliation. Mercy.
Jesus died to reconcil us to the father.
The work of salvation from God by Jesus.
Justice and Mercy

Salvation is by faith.. and part of that is our need to repent of sin.

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,....
Act 2:3 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Baptism = a new birth... death to the old self.

Exo 34:7 KJV Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty;....

 

[pinebeach]

Yes, the following is a parable given by Jesus prior to His death and resurrection, but nonetheless I would say it is applicable to all those who pat themselves on the back and declare themselves able to refrain from all sin except of course for maybe dropping something on the floor (see post 2183)

9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

So was Jesus lying when He said that tax collector was justified and the Pharisee busy bragging on his sinlessness?

Now does this advice to humble ourselves still apply? I certainly think so. I mean who has saved themself? Has anyone no need of a Savior and having accepted Jesus, are we now in a position to brag about it?

 

[TMS]

You seem to be confused.

Is salvation a free gift we are given by the grace of Jesus Christ?

If you answer is yes TMS then that means there is nothing you can do to be saved.

You are actually talking about staying saved, continuing in the faith, being obedient.

There is a monumental difference between the gift of salvation and your resultant obedience.

It is a free gift
Why didn't all 10 of the virgins got with the bride?
Why are people lost and not saved?

Why is the road narrow and few walk it. ?

Mat KJV Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

We are given the free gift... does it say every person receives the gift? No

If we are not willing to repent and surrender our evil sins we will not be covered by the free gift of righteousness in the judgement. If we try to work our way to heaven or aim to cover our own sinful garments we will not succeed and be unsaved. But if we repent and confess our sins trusting in Jesus's righteousness we will be saved by the free gift of Jesus's righteousness.

So Yes, the free gift of salvation is conditional, as it requires individual belief, repentance, and a continued walk of faith in Christ.
While God’s love and the provision of a substitute are a free display of grace to all, the application of this atonement to a person's life depends on their compliance with divinely appointed terms.

John 3:16...
Joh 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Is there a conditions that seperate the saved from the unsaved? Yes

 

[HigherGospel]

You seem to be confused.

No, no confusion on my end.

there is nothing you can do to be saved.

We are to accept and receive the free gift and then abide in Christ.

1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

It's time for you to take off those thick religious reading glasses and accept the whole counsel of God

There is a monumental difference between the gift of salvation and your resultant obedience.

I see, so your claim is one can live in disobedience to the Lord, in rebellion to the Lord and still be saved. Got it.

We then follow as best as we can in obedience to the Lord's instructions or commandments.

That would be works based salvation according to the false OSAS teachers.

If you keep saying things like this you'll be the left foot of fellowship right out of the OSAS heretical community

Persona non grata

What Christ has done for you is eternal but your obedience varies depending on the day.

No, I'm not like you OSAS people who apparently turn away from the Lord to engage in sinful behavior frequently.

You people go around proudly proclaiming you are still sinners and claim you cannot stop sinning.

So, I take these people at their word. They claim they are still sinners and they cannot stop sinning

This is what makes them tares that Jesus warned us about.

Your confused.

Project and gas light all you want bud.

It doesn't work on me and is quite hilarious

Keep boasting about your understanding of the scripture.

Funny how you OSAS people go around proudly proclaiming you are still sinners and claim you cannot stop sinning.

You know, funny in a sad way.

The Lord said He is "not counting their trespasses against them".

Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Yes, our past sins are remitted.

Going forward, IF one sins they must confess and forsake their sin in order to be forgiven and obtain mercy according to God's Word.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Hebrews 10:28-31
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Those claiming all future sin is already forgiven are mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8 as they deny that we reap what we sow denying that when one sows to the flesh (sins) they reap corruption

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

If one claims we DO reap corruption when we sin, then they are admitting they do not believe OSAS / Eternal security doctrine (and sadly many of their friends will forsake them!).... and if one claims we DO NOT reap what we sow, then according to Gal 6:7, that would be mocking God!

Adam and Eve were given eternal life by the Lord when He created them... but when they sinned against God they became corrupt and died spiritually and became separated from God.

So Gal 6:7,8 is quite the quandary, quite the state of uncertainty and perplexity for the adherents of OSAS doctrine.

trolling in this thread

Of course those posting scripture proving OSAS is false doctrine are "dreaded trolls"

Maybe refrain from reading the scriptures that I post.

I understand you wouldn't want what God says in His Word to get in the way of what you believe.

I have never said God will count every trespass against me.

He is, He does, and He will:

Hebrews 2:2,3 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Hebrews 10:28-31
He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Unless you confess and forsake any sin you commit after having been born again so you can obtain mercy and be cleansed once again.

Proverbs 28:13
He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So was Jesus lying when He said that tax collector was justified and the Pharisee busy bragging on his sinlessness?

Now, read that in light of what the rest of the New Testament teaches.

You did know that it was Jesus' teaching coming thru the New Testament writers right???

 

[TMS]

Let's add to the befuddlement of those them reject putting on the new man who want to waller around in the old man being sin conscience believing they are still sinners who cannot cease from sin:

These scripture references will make their heads explode!


Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

2 Corinthians 11:2
For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect

2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Philippians 3:15
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Colossians 1:28
Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man
perfect in Christ Jesus:

1 Thessalonians 3:10
Night and day praying exceedingly that we might see your face, and might perfect that which is lacking in your faith?

2 Timothy 3:17
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Hebrews 2:10
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Hebrews 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God

Hebrews 7:19
For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

Hebrews 9:9
Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Hebrews 10:1
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 11:40
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Hebrews 13:21
Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

James 1:4
But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

James 1:25
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

James 2:22
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

James 3:2
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.

1 Peter 5:10
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

1 John 4:17
Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

Overcoming sin is possible by the power of Jesus in us. Amen..

All the churches in Asia were told... TO HIM THAT OVERCOMETH ... Rev 2-3
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life,
Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

All 7 churches. God believes we can overcome.. it is so sad that so many people don't believe. Don't have faith.

Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

 

[BillyBob]

In other words you don't believe the Blood of the Lamb has the power to cleanse you and you don't believe the Holy Spirit is able to empower you to exercise self control (one of the fruit of the Spirit) to refrain from sinning???

There is nothing that God cannot do! He is the creator of all things. He is able to do as He wishes!
However, if you think He has already made you perfect, then why not ask Him to let you sit at His right hand?

 

[pinebeach]

Of course those posting scripture proving OSAS is false doctrine are "dreaded trolls"

Maybe refrain from reading the scriptures that I post.

I understand you wouldn't want what God says in His Word to get in the way of what you believe.

You also lack understanding.

 

[HigherGospel]

Overcoming sin is possible by the power of Jesus in us. Amen..

Exactly. That's the "glass half full" people with can do attitude.

The OSAS people who claim they are still sinners and cannot stop sinning are the "glass half empty" people with the faithless attitude who are problems going somewhere to happen.

These people could bust out in to sinful behavior at any moment so it's best to not let any of them even know where you live.

They could bust out in to murder, rape, theft, arson, or who knows what all they are capable of as they continually claim they are still sinners and cannot stop sinning as the devil has trained them to believe.

You just can't trust people like this who have no self control and don't even know that self control is one of the fruit of the Spirit. They're clueless!

He is able to do as He wishes!

Yes and He will do what He said He will do because He's not a liar.

You also lack understanding.

No, I lack blindness that is required to follow the OSAS heresy

 

[TMS]

I said .."God will not count every trespass against me" ..
I'm a bit confused by your response.

He is, He does, and He will:

Hebrews 2:2,3 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation

Galatians 6:7-8 (see Gen 8:22)
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

God knows everything, all sins are known to God and I'm guilty of sin. But the sins I confess and repent of in the name of Jesus will be paid by Christ.. the sin bearer.
Lev 10:17 Wherefore have ye not eaten the sin offering in the holy place, seeing it is most holy, and God hath given it you to bear the iniquity of the congregation, to make atonement for them before the LORD?
Jesus is willing to bear my sins and anyone that will confess and repent with a true heart.

If I bear my sin I will recieve eternal death.

If we are saved in the Judgement...
Will God count every sin against you?
Or will God count them against Jesus?