Do All Religions Lead To God?

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Dino246 said:
I see that you dodged this instead of confessing and repenting.


The Sinai covenant is obsolete. The covenant in Christ’s blood is in effect for those who believe. Why do you misrepresent the beliefs of others?


You are making reference to a false clam from the Catholics. I thought you were wanting truth. “The “few” is in relation to all of humanity, not all of the Church.
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Sorry, again I find NO TRUTH here!

Only to those claiming Christ as their LORD does Christ say "depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’"

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

And what is lawlessness but transgressing Torah???

And there many like you who state: The Sinai covenant is obsolete.

I believe your words
 
Blain said:
Clarification? Ok I will try to explain the best I can. So think of salvation as a gift a box with a bow on it from the father paid for by the blood of Christ now salvation is called a gift in scripture so if he hands you this gift how do you lose what was not even paid for yourself? trchnically speaking you don't have ownership over this gift because it was bought with a price a heavy price you only are given the gift out of mercy and love

Now you can choose to give this gift back if you wish you can forfiet the gift back to him or not this is the forfiet part


Now think of this scenario except the gift is in the fathers hands because it was bought by his sons blood and this gift is yoursalvation now how does one lose what is not even theirs to begin with? you didn't pay for it you didn't die for it and you didn't suffer for it.
Now since it is in his hands and his alone you cannot lose it because it is firmly in his grasp


Or think of it like this no matter how many times you fall short as long as you have a repentant heart for your sins since you didn't pay for your salvation you technically don't own it only Christ does because he bought it and his love is so vast and so deep that nothing you ever do will make him love you any less nor will he throw you away to the dogs for you are his beloved child

Now can you walk away from him yes, can you follow the desires of your flesh and become lost? yes but it is all on you it is you forfieting your birthright but to lose something you have to have had it to begin with
aand anyone who has tasted and seen if their hearts truly love him will never depart from him and trust me in my life of absolute hell and torture I had more than enough reason to do so but my love and his love for me are to deep for that to happen

so losing something due to you sins and failings is not possible because the cross is what paid for it so you cannot lose what is not yours to begin with but since he is loving and gracious he does allow us to forfeit it even though it would break his heart
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Would someone who loves you give you a gift but retain ownership of that gift? Iglf love is not freely given and received how can it be love?
 
GRACE_ambassador said:
Precious friend, it is ok, we have all been confused at one time or another, eh?

It came from the so-called "Five Solas (alones?)" = the mistaken say: Salvation is by Grace alone, by faith alone, In Christ alone, by scripture alone, and for the glory of God alone.

Which is atrocious grammar, correct?

Much better grammar Is:

God's Salvation, Simply, Is: "By Grace Through faith In Christ, By Scripture, For The Glory Of God!"
And All five of these Together! / Alone!! Nothing can be "added Nor taken away", eh?

Be Blessed...
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Yes faith but not faith alone, "You can see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone."
 


In general, you and most can not be moved even by clear easy to understand words from Jesus Christ.
His words showed it ain't the non-christians He is speaking about --its the christians that are lawless, THE MANY

I have wondered if the Many, if they had even heard it, Christ as KING of Kings will rule with a rod of Iron?
the only reason that comes to my mind --- as now, the Many will even then,---- refuse to obey.
Then God's Government will be in total control and ALL WILL obey the Torah!
 
memberofthebride said:
Sorry, again I find NO TRUTH here!

Only to those claiming Christ as their LORD does Christ say "depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’"

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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You changed the subject.
 
memberofthebride said:
In general, you and most can not be moved even by clear easy to understand words from Jesus Christ.
His words showed it ain't the non-christians He is speaking about --its the christians that are lawless, THE MANY

I have wondered if the Many, if they had even heard it, Christ as KING of Kings will rule with a rod of Iron?
the only reason that comes to my mind --- as now, the Many will even then,---- refuse to obey.
Then God's Government will be in total control and ALL WILL obey the Torah!
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Scripture doesn't say this at all. You've made this up out of your misunderstanding of the scriptures.
 
memberofthebride said:
In general, you and most can not be moved even by clear easy to understand words from Jesus Christ.
His words showed it ain't the non-christians He is speaking about --its the christians that are lawless, THE MANY
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No, His audience was primarily Jews, not Christians.
 
Blain said:
Listen don't put words in my mouth I keep saying that obedience does not save or is it what keeps you saved your the one saying I believe we can live in disobedience and still be saved
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You can't have it both ways.

Christians are called to walk in obedience and those that don't won't be going to Heaven.

Only those led by the Spirit are the sons of God (Romans 8:14)


Blain said:
Keep your assumptions to yourself please because I said no such thing
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Actually you are claiming being obedience to the Lord is irrelevant to Him which is not what God's Word teaches

So by default you are claiming one can live in disobedience and still be saved whether you realize it or not,

This is the result of having been blinded by false doctrine. Hope you get delivered from heresy



Blain said:
I believe we can hand over our salvation but we cannot lose it due to our failings and shortcomings
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There was go again, the false claim that one does not lose their salvation even if they turn away from the Lord.



NightTwister said:
I don't do discussion by bibliography
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Yeah, those that reject what the Lord is saying in His Word as being the Word of the Lord are easily deceived by the old devil and his demons.



NightTwister said:
I came here for healthy discussion, though it's been difficult to find the healthy part.
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Rejecting what the Lord is saying in His Word as being the Word of the Lord will make it difficult to visit with those who do understand what God says in His Word actually is the Word of the Lord.



memberofthebride said:
not sure where you are but many on this blog believe the Torah is abolished
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So you're claim is there are LIES in the Book of Hebrews then, and there is no New Covenant??? clueless-scratching.gif

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Whatever you do, don't let what God says in His Word get in the way of what you believe laughing.gif
 
memberofthebride said:
LOL wow that is the best to day so far, The creativity ability of mankind to twist the truth into what ever form they want, has never cease to amaze me.
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Frame and hang it. One day you can point to it and say, “Wow, I was completely wrong.”
 
memberofthebride said:
your truth is of zero value to me
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Well the what the catholics claim as "truth" leads people to eternal torment in hell.



Dino246 said:
No, His audience was primarily Jews, not Christians.
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More false doctrine from the OSAS heretics clueless-doh.gif

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The OSAS people have to say Jesus lied in Luke 16:16 as to protect their precious false OSAS doctrine where they teach Jesus's Word are to be ignore and we should follow Paul instead of Jesus.

The OSAS people are idolatrous like that
 
Dino246 said:
Huh? What does this have to do with my comment?
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You claimed Jesus was only teaching the Jews when saying "His audience was primarily Jews, not Christians".

Many in the OSAS heretical movement claim Jesus' teachings are not for New Testament believers and we should all ignore the teachings of Jesus and become followers of Paul.
 
HigherGospel said:
You claimed Jesus was only teaching the Jews when saying "His audience was primarily Jews, not Christians".

Many in the OSAS heretical movement claim Jesus' teachings are not for New Testament believers and we should all ignore the teachings of Jesus and become followers of Paul.
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Wow… you completely missed the context of my statement… and grossly misinterpreted its implication.
 
HigherGospel said:
Well the what the catholics claim as "truth" leads people to eternal torment in hell.





More false doctrine from the OSAS heretics View attachment 284491

Luke 16:16
The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

The OSAS people have to say Jesus lied in Luke 16:16 as to protect their precious false OSAS doctrine where they teach Jesus's Word are to be ignore and we should follow Paul instead of Jesus.

The OSAS people are idolatrous like that
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First what is OSAS?

Second, I would not follow a pope to a bath room if my bladder was bursting

Third; Christ and the Father I follow do not send any to eternal torment in hell, I am not part of the 40,000 flavors of confusion
 
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