Hateful and spiteful remarks are not biblical and you should know better, do you recal what the fruits of the spirit are? can you honestly say you are abiding by the spirit in this regard?
Do All Religions Lead To God?
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Well, I learned the Greek meaning of the Matt. 16:16-19 passage from RB Thieme, who I suspect is more knowledgeable that either of us, but I hope the Greek experts on CC will notice this and opine. HAND
Yeah, the devil claims speaking God's Word is "hateful"
You forgot Jesus and the Apostles spoke out against false doctrine when they encountered it.
It's sad that some think Jesus and the Apostles were being hateful to dare speak out against heresy
But that's how the devil and his crowd rolls ya know.
You can confront heresy as you say but do so in a mature and godly manner be respectful and that is all that is needed. You can say what you will of me but the rules of cc are clear r did you not read them in the sticky threads called just a reminder to be civil?
So grouping me or anyone else with the devil is a violation of those rules also Jesus and the apostles were not hateful when confronting heresy they were bold yes but not hateful Jesus alone was the only one who confronted the pharisees and spoke in an angry tone because they were evil through and through
Well I thank rb thieme for his opinion but you need more than your word that his understanding his authoritative.
Petros is the word used. Jesus was building HIS church. Even if we agree it's Peters "faith" and not him, if Peter isn't at the center of a church to share his faith how was anyone to know what Peters faith was? Then .Jesus just gives Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven for show? Theater? Why give the man Peter such authority if not meant to build his (Jesus) chuch?
Well catholicism and reformed theology is certainly evil through and through.
Enjoy the fruit of what these people will be receiving.
All that spewed with no evidence that your understanding of anything is authoritative.
And the basis for your saying it is evil? on what grounds do you claim this?
So which one is right?
If you are looking for a particular car to purchase, how would you go about finding it? Wouldn’t you look for the right model; year, color,, horsepower, automatic or standard transmission, the essential accessories—like power brakes, power seats, sunroof, etc???
You find the church of Christ the same way; only it’s not about what WE like or want but what God has made. The church in the Bible has definite, identifiable characteristics, the “work” of the church is outlined: Acts 4:34-35, 2 Cor. 8:1-4, 13 (and more). The worship is described. Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:1-2, Ephesians 5:19, . The organization of the church is given: Ephesians 4:11. And even how and for what the church treasury was used.
Denominations are pretty much “doing what is right in their own eyes.” They don’t believe they need AUTHORITY for what they do in religion. They don’t show a lot of concern for what the Bible says or teaches about the Lord’s church. Just remember Matthew 7. Those “religious” people were turned away because they were “LAWLESS”. Verse 23. That means they had no authority for their practices.
if you know what the New Testament says about the church of Christ, it is not hard at all to identify the right one ; and it is just as easy to identify the WRONG ones.
I believe the picking a car analogy is the way people choose a denomination today. That’s part of the problem. They do it based off what they like. Some like Toyotas and some like fords. It’s all about what they feel comfortable in. They do the same with choosing a denomination. They find somewhere they feel comfortable. Think you meant that analogy to go another way but I believe picking a church should be nothing like picking a car.
Either way, if you give 40 people all the same scripture you mentioned and a list of all the denominations, you would still get multiple answers on what the right one is. Everyone interprets differently and everyone has a different opinion. Ask 40 people what the safest car on the market is and you’ll get probably at least 10 different answers.
It's better that these bad actors show their true selves. It undermines everything that have to say.
Ask 10 people on CC what a verse means and you'll get 43 different answers. ;-)
Okay, that statement is better/more in line with the Greek per what RBT taught me:
"it"/the foundation of Christ's church is not Peter but rather faith like Peter manifested,
and "anyone" was to know what this faith was by learning the Gospel in obedience to the Great Commission.
The keys symbolize the Gospel, and Peter represents all disciples who share the Gospel, not popes.
Jesus also commissioned Paul to share such authority, especially for evangelizing Gentiles.
What "gospel"? Peter had to teach this gospel and in order to prevent error, which there was one plenty of in the early church, someone or something had to be established to ensure the truth was being transmitted. Its nonsensical to think a church was founded on the faith of a person but not the person. There was Docetism, gnosticism, moralism, arianism, donagtism, nestorianism, pelagianism and those are just the popular ones. Its ridiculous to think Jesus would create a church and leave it to people to make up their own minds what the truth was. Obedience to the church is essential because obedience now the one trait the devil can't imitate.
true and at least 10 of the answers will have nothing to do with the question.
And on top of that even if you have 9 out of 10 points of agreement people are not happy.
And even if you have 10 out of 10 points of agreement, people will still argue with themselves in the mirror.
Also true. Wouldn’t surprise me to see both parties of an argument swap viewpoints and continue to argue from opposite sides.
The good news that sinners will be saved via the faith expressed by Peter in Matt. 16:16 and first manifested by Abraham per Rom. 4.
The HS was given to faithers for the purpose of teaching truth (John 14-16).
It is inane to think the church would be based on a sinner rather than on the HS/GW.
Don't forget to include Roman Catholicism in your list of errors.
The method God employs to convert sinners is persuading people to change their minds Acts 28:23-24.
Obedience to a pope or church is the mark of heretical cults (Matt. 23:9).