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Oboy...... i can tell by the smile reactions that someone is very much misinformed.
Why not save our enimies the trouble and just surrender or beat ourselves to death😂

The sad truth is that some only allow what fits there narrative.....the rest is false.
Russia, China, Korea o my....I think I just felt Arlington cemetery quake. 😱

My friends all i can say is some of you have no idea what's about to come...absolutely no idea....😪
 
We are called to love all this is so true....but we are also told to hate evil...where's the balance.

We can hate evil when it is done by Muslims, Christians, Jews and anyone else.
Pretty simple really, but addressing a person who collectively calls all Muslims "Musrats", so I think your response is out of context there.
 
A rather key difference is Israel being the focal point of prophecy such as:
Several scriptures, particularly in the Old Testament prophets like Zechariah 12 & 14, Ezekiel 38-39 (Gog of Magog), and Joel 3, describe nations rising against Israel in the latter days, leading to conflict, but ultimately God's intervention to defend Jerusalem and His people. Key passages speak of global opposition to Jerusalem, with nations gathering to attack, but God promising to protect it.
  • Zechariah 12:2-3: "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples... and when all the nations of the earth gather against it".
  • Zechariah 14:2: "For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem...".
  • Ezekiel 38:15-16: Describes Gog of the land of Magog coming against Israel with a vast army in the "latter years" (or "latter days").
  • Joel 3:1-2: "For behold, in those days and in that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat...".
Some of the countries you sited will be some of Israel's attackers.

Scripture explicitly states that the Gog/Magog war occurs at the end of the millennium (Revelation 20:8), but some don't believe that for some reason and claim it happens a thousand years earlier.

Dispensationalism teaches that the Valley of Jehoshaphat, where the armies of the world will gather against Jerusalem, is the Kidron Valley in Jerusalem, but that idea is so ridiculous it's laughable. The Kidron is a very narrow valley less than 3 km long, almost a ravine, that could hold only a few thousand soldiers stacked on top of each other. And wars aren't fought like that anymore.

Revelation 16:16 describes a vast army of nations gathered at Har Meggido (Armageddon), but that is not Jerusalem, and it occurs after the bowls of wrath have been poured out on the earth and the lord has returned there with all of his resurrected people. So the war is against them, which is us Christians btw.
 
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Oboy...... i can tell by the smile reactions that someone is very much misinformed.
Why not save our enimies the trouble and just surrender or beat ourselves to death😂
The sad truth is that some only allow what fits there narrative.....the rest is false.
Russia, China, Korea o my....I think I just felt Arlington cemetery quake. 😱
My friends all i can say is some of you have no idea what's about to come...absolutely no idea....😪

And you do? If you are still around, what are you going to be thinking when nukes start falling on 'murica because they provoked the rest of the world into war.
 
lol American Empire Christians seem to interpret it to mean to economically occupy other countries.

Wow! No wonder the world is in such a mess.
I have no reason to act surprised though, because my country also inherited the same old British colonial mindset, and it took it's toll on the religious folk too.
There was a chapter in our history when ethno-supremecy was accepted too, just as it is now in modern Israel.
Had we not abandoned the "White Australia Policy" our moral right to exist as a nation would be on shaky ground.
 
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A rather key difference is Israel being the focal point of prophecy such as:
Several scriptures, particularly in the Old Testament prophets like Zechariah 12 & 14, Ezekiel 38-39 (Gog of Magog), and Joel 3, describe nations rising against Israel in the latter days, leading to conflict, but ultimately God's intervention to defend Jerusalem and His people. Key passages speak of global opposition to Jerusalem, with nations gathering to attack, but God promising to protect it.
  • Zechariah 12:2-3: "Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples... and when all the nations of the earth gather against it".
  • Zechariah 14:2: "For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem...".
  • Ezekiel 38:15-16: Describes Gog of the land of Magog coming against Israel with a vast army in the "latter years" (or "latter days").
  • Joel 3:1-2: "For behold, in those days and in that time, when I restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat...".
Some of the countries you sited will be some of Israel's attackers.

A rather key difference is that modern Israel behaves even worse than those nations with impunity, and there are so many religious nutcases in powerful western countries that it gets away with it.

None of those verses that you quoted are about modern Israel.
You don't agree with me, but you have nothing to prove that any of it is about 1948 Israel.
All you can do is insist that they are one and the same.

Maybe you think that you have a spiritual view of life, but in practice it is very much earthly.

What would be your spiritual message of hope to this girl?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EHJEodkuwGU
 
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Let's look at rev 11:8 for a bit. In that verse according to strongs
Σόδομα

Sodoma

sod'-om-ah

Plural, of Hebrew origin [H5467]; Sodoma (that is, Sedom), a place in Palestine: - Sodom

Αἴγυπτος

Aiguptos

ah'ee-goop-tos

Of uncertain derivation; AEgyptus, the land of the Nile: - Egypt.

Total KJV occurrences: 24.

Your take on the witnesses here??

Revelation 11:8....great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

We know that Sodom and Egypt are places, but the place that is referred to here is Jerusalem (ie where our Lord was crucified).
It is SPIRITUALLY called Sodom and Egypt, because the spiritual condition of those that dwell there in the time referred to is comparable to the condition of the Sodomites and Egyptians in the OT times when God judged against them.
Fair interpretation?
 
Perhaps Greater Russia is simply defending itself, Greater China is simply defending itself, Greater North Korea is simply defending itself.
I hope you find this absurd too.
So you think the muzzrats should nuke Israel? Or how would you take care of those pesky Jews? You and others here love evil. Posessed by evil.
 
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Revelation 11:8....great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

We know that Sodom and Egypt are places, but the place that is referred to here is Jerusalem (ie where our Lord was crucified).
It is SPIRITUALLY called Sodom and Egypt, because the spiritual condition of those that dwell there in the time referred to is comparable to the condition of the Sodomites and Egyptians in the OT times when God judged against them.
Fair interpretation?

Very fair in deed, now some here say that it refers to the jews and there ways. Now let's take a look at modern Jerusalem today .

Yes, there are a significant number of Muslims in Jerusalem, making up a large portion of the city's population, particularly in the Old City's Muslim Quarter, and the city is considered Islam's third holiest site with major shrines like the Dome of the Rock and Al-Aqsa Mosque. Muslims have lived in Jerusalem for centuries, and it remains a vibrant center for Islamic faith, culture, and history, with its Muslim population being predominantly Sunni.

Key Facts about Muslims in Jerusalem:
  • Population: Muslims form a majority of the Arab population in Jerusalem, outnumbering Christians by a large margin in the early 21st century.
  • Muslim Quarter: The largest and most populated of the Old City's four quarters is the Muslim Quarter, home to many residents and access to important Islamic sites.
  • Religious Significance: Jerusalem is revered in Islam as the third holiest city (after Mecca and Medina) and was the first qibla (direction of prayer).
  • Holy Sites:
    The city houses significant Islamic holy places on the Temple Mount (Al-Haram al-Sharif), including the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque
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    • Demographics: Most Muslims in Israel, including Jerusalem, are Sunni Arabs.







In essence, Muslims are an integral and substantial part of Jerusalem's diverse religious and cultural landscape, deeply connected to its history and present.

now to be clear I dont hate Muslims, God doesn't either, but no one gets a pass to enter in the kingdom unless they repent and believe.
Now do you think this overview will change in the future ? Im just looking at what has been presented as modern day.
 
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In essence, Muslims are an integral and substantial part of Jerusalem's diverse religious and cultural landscape, deeply connected to its history and present.

now to be clear I dont hate Muslims, God doesn't either, but no one gets a pass to enter in the kingdom unless they repent and believe.
Now do you think this overview will change in the future ? Im just looking at what has been presented as modern day.

Unbelievable. Are you suggesting/implying the solution to Jerusalem being Sodom/Egypt is the ethnic cleansing of muslims from it?
 
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Jer 30:11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.

Jer 46:28 Fear thou not, O Jacob my servant, saith the LORD: for I am with thee; for I will make a full end of all the nations whither I have driven thee: but I will not make a full end of thee, but correct thee in measure; yet will I not leave thee wholly unpunished.

Do nations exist today? So this has not come to pass yet.
No one can undo what the Lord has spoken, we as the church are blessed to know his word and are called to share his word to the world.
To esteem one nation or people above another is fruitless but to deprave and add corruption to a nation or people is evil.
As I stated in the previous post some here have no idea what's coming.
Seeking the kingdom of God and his righteousness should be a priority in our walk in this world. What that means seems different to alot of people here.
To advocate for the rights of people or nations is pointless according to the above scriptures God seems to have judged according to his long suffering.
This is why imo Jesus wept in part over Jerusalem. Of what must take place shortly after and in the future.
The kingdom of God is presented as a monarchy not a democracy our vote your vote doesn't matter. The Lord said I have spoken it I will do it.
 
Occupy? I would like to know where you get that from and what you think it means.

Yes, Christians are told to "occupy till I come," a command from Jesus in Luke 19:13 meaning believers should actively use their God-given talents, resources, and time to further His kingdom and do "business" for Him (spread the Gospel, serve others) until His return, not passively wait. This is seen as a call to faithful stewardship, witnessing, and diligent work in God's service, making the most of their lives and opportunities.
 
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