Zero super-determinism in those passages. Zero.
However, they do speak of CONSEQUENCES.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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However, they do speak of CONSEQUENCES.
Has already been thoroughly de-Calvinized. Effortlessly.
BTW that passage speaks to salvation by grace thru faith not works, this being God's plan that He formulated before time began.
God's attributes do not change, yes. Nor His justice and mercy.
But don't confuse that with the unfolding sequence of events of His plan of salvation/redemption.
What is wrong with you? I explained the purpose and context. I then gave you the link to the post where I detailed the purpose and context because you said I hadn't explained and here you are again saying I have not explained. I gave you the evidence!
Do you see why I say you ignore context and purpose? You don't listen to what is said and give any thought to it.
You gave me one verse that was dealing with a church misusing the gifts and consider you have more evidence for the continuing?
Should I be surprised? Not really, you show exactly what you claimed is unnecessary earlier on in that we don't need to bring our reasoning to the word.
Understanding is built line upon line, precept upon precept not simply plucking a verse out of scripture that suits one's purpose.
The irony is the the Lord says that right before He declares why He gives tongues and Paul says don't be immature in your thinking and understand that purpose. It is that same immature thinking that led the Corinthians and Christians today, to misuse the gift.
If all you are going to do is keep saying I am not explaining anything when I clearly am, I see no point continuing.
grace and peace.
Christians are not the only ones who supposedly speak in tongues. Just because something exists, doesn't necessarily follow it is right.
I watched it and it sounded to me like he squarely put the responsibility to respond positively to God on the shoulders of the person being given the word or face the consequences.
I see no responsibility or accountability of people in your doctrine, only God's "so there, take that". A God who takes no pleasure in death yet deliberately creates a people solely for the purpose of death? Contradiction much?
Eschatology. It's a very big deal.
And like everything else in the Bible, has zero Calvinism anywhere.
He makes it up as he goes along. His posts are so outlandish and rude that I no longer even bother replying to him anymore
You still stuck on that old record? You just don't learn. smh
I guess you believing God cares for you is what makes Him care for you right?
Afterall, according to you, it is our believing that effects the belief, God's determining has nothing to do with it.
You made a wise decision, because in prior posts I think that he believes that his volition overrides God's plan!
After reading this, I can only assume that you had a bad dream. I have no idea what you are talking about. . . .You still stuck on that old record? You just don't learn. smh
I guess you believing God cares for you is what makes Him care for you right?
Afterall, according to you, it is our believing that effects the belief, God's determining has nothing to do with it.
yes this is true he has saved us for his own pleasure and for anyone who believes on the son
There you go again, trying to drag God down to the same level as man!
God is not man no matter how much you try to make Him like us. He is not only able to create men for destruction, but has indeed done so. At the same time, that does not mean that He takes pleasure in it.
Our ways are not God's ways!
I'm posting this because I believe you miss hearing from me. . . .
yes but not unto salvation the scriptures say who his wrath is for in Christ Jesus and that is all who refuse to believeWe have all, each and every one of us, earned His wrath.
ok well I clealry must have missed that then that is my bad I apologize for that