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Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Wrong he said they will cease yes but love never will but if you really pay attention to what he was saying and read the whole chapter you will see why he said what he did.
But since you don't believe in the gifts which actually is a calvinistic doctrine you are missing out on an aspect of God that empowers and reshapes his children
Again I would have to go through so many of the fakes to find the real ones and unless one is actually there in person what is to decide if it is real or fake? youtube has plenty of them but but it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack
And if your family came down with mental illness from tongues then it was not really tongues as the spirit of God does not damage the believer operating in the gifts of his spirit the enemy does that and it is almost always tied to faking
the insults fly in both directions, Jordon ... so sad ...
Galatians 6:7-10
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
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reneweddaybyday said:
Who taught Abel and Cain about offering "in process of time" (Gen 4:3) if not their parents?
Noah was a preacher of righteousness while building the ark (2 Peter 2:5).
Throughout all ages, God revealed His Word to faithful, believing men and women. His faithful men and women teach others.
That's just the way I see God having revealed His Word from the earliest days of mankind.
1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
we do not have to make folks believe ... all we have to do is hold forth the Word of truth. God gives increase to those who believe ... those who do not suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
Such an awesome privilege ... for we are labourers together with God (1 Cor 3:9).
In Luke 9:1-2, Jesus sent the 12 apostles to preach the kingdom of God. In Luke 10:1, Jesus sent another 70 disciples.
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You do not believe the Father drew you to the Lord Jesus Christ through a faithful believer who preach the gospel to you?
1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
I believe God has used "preaching" to teach His Word from days of Adam and Eve to today and continuing into the future.
Who taught Abel and Cain about offering "in process of time" (Gen 4:3) if not their parents?
Noah was a preacher of righteousness while building the ark (2 Peter 2:5).
Throughout all ages, God revealed His Word to faithful, believing men and women. His faithful men and women teach others.
That's just the way I see God having revealed His Word from the earliest days of mankind.
1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
we do not have to make folks believe ... all we have to do is hold forth the Word of truth. God gives increase to those who believe ... those who do not suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
Such an awesome privilege ... for we are labourers together with God (1 Cor 3:9).
Jesus had many disciples ... 12 were His core disciples (referred to as apostles). The 12 apostles were disciples of Jesus ... however, not all disciples were apostles.HeIsHere said:
In Luke 9:1-2, Jesus sent the 12 apostles to preach the kingdom of God. In Luke 10:1, Jesus sent another 70 disciples.
yes ... the gospel is to be preached to all ... those who believe will receive the promised blessing ... those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness will receive the consequence of having rejected Him.HeIsHere said:
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nope ... He draws all ... some believe and some do not.
those who believe the gospel will receive the promised blessing.
those who do not believe will receive the consequence of having suppressed the truth in unrighteousness.
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Those who walked the earth with the Lord Jesus Christ lived in a very unique time ... to see Him and walk with Him and share meals with Him ... that must have been such a blessed time.
We also live in a very unique time ... the Lord Jesus Christ resides within those who are born again ... Christ in you the hope of glory (Col 1:27) ... what a blessing!
the name calling goes both ways ... magenta calls me "FWer" or "freewiller" ... others do as well ... yet the definitions of "FWer" or "freewiller" lack any substantive meaning.Blain said:
just gotta let stuff go ... prove all things ... hold fast that which is good (1 Thes 5:21). At the end of the day, go through what you've heard ... what has been said to you or about you ... if good (true), hold on to it ... if not good (untrue), throw it to God. He takes our burdens and He applies His healing balm upon hurting hearts. He brings comfort to our hearts and peace to our minds.
sometimes we get some great insight into God's Word and then the discussion goes sideways for more than a couple of pages. The insight gets lost in a barrage of nonsense ... really sad ...Blain said:
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Not true. He believes the gifts of knowledge, prophecy and tongues have ceased as Paul foretold, not that all the gifts have ceased as do I.
Did the unbelievers who were present understand what was said or did it have to be interpreted for them?
I agree, and here is my elaboration of #1&40:
The normative way of stating the Gospel kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:
- There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or Creator God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who loves sinful humanity (Rom. 5:6-8, John 3:16) and who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
- Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
- Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
- Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s grace or justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), at which moment God’s loving Holy Spirit of Christ indwells/baptizes the believer into the church (Rev. 3:20, Rom. 5:5, 1Cor. 12:13).
- Loving Christ Jesus as Lord (Luke 2:11), God the Son (Matt. 16:16) or God in the human dimension (Col. 2:9) means reflecting divine love as empowered by the Holy Spirit, thereby obeying His command to love one another (Matt. 7:21, 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2), which will eventually achieve spiritual maturity on earth and heaven after Christ returns at God’s resurrection (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Phil. 3:12-16, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
Ephesians 6:12 says, "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places".
This verse seems to indicate that the real enemies of the gospel are, "spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places". It sounds like the verse is revealing that the real enemies of the gospel, are invisible but their weapon is more deadly than a bullet.
They destroy people by leading them away from the truth of the gospel. Satan was the first to use this weapon, by saying "hath God said, you shall not eat of it". He attacked the truth by presenting an alternative view to Eve. He convinced Eve that God was withholding something good from her and Adam.
The rulers of the darkness have been around for thousands of years, so they know more about us then we know about ourselves. Mankind is no match for them, they are super powerful and super wise and super persuasive, because they appeal to our sin nature.
Only the Lord Jesus defeated the Devil and His Demons, no man has ever been able to match an Angel, regardless if the Angel is a fallen one or a good one. There is no other name under heaven by which we must be saved.
cessationism is a belief that the gift of prophecy and tongues have ceased. Which means you would have to rule this scripture out to believe that is true, and I don't think where allowed to take away scripture.
1 Corinthians 12:10
1 Corinthians 12:28
According to stupid ai, which has my reformed church i attend as Calvinistic and it's not, says some reformed churches believe in cessationism, but we don't,
Calvinistic is a horrible word I don't like that word as it's a bad word aimed at John Calvin who was a saint, my research shows, many reformed churches interpret that, John Calvin was saying the gifts of prophecy and tounges is less relevant as it is for today, not meaning those gifts have ceased or ended, but saying those gifts don't play a role as much as they did in the earlier church, which means the holy spirit is given now to believers, and Calvin was saying we don't see people using prophecy and tounges as much to help people to believe in the holy spirit.
But we do know the gift of prophecy is relevant in every believer today because the holy spirit is an inward blessing for today. Prophecy and tounges where used to make people believe in the holy spirit, but now the holy spirit makes you believe by blessing you with those gifts. In the earlier church nobody could prophecy unless by the spirit. Which was a temporal blessing, this is what John Calvin was refering
Now that temporal blessing is a no longer temporal, is a permanent indwelling of the spirit, and part of the devine nature of The lord is his prophetic word, for instance this is one way how it works.
My friend had a dream his wife had cancer and in that dream he was shown where the cancer was, and the doctor who showed him where the cancer was in the dream , was the same doctor he met a few months later. He never knew, never seen this doctor before, but he was identical to whom he saw in his dream, a black African doctor, small and chubby with curly hair.
After his dream his wife went to the doctor and she asked the doctor to examine her, where her husband had told her where the cancer was in his dream , which was a place where they couldn't of known,
And it was confirmed in that exact same place by the doctor, who then sent them to the African doctor in his dream.
She was healed because they got to it in time.
Amazing eh
No He only draws all His Sheep, He calls them by name and they will follow Him Jn 10:3
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
I know ... the verse says we're to be good to all and especially to those who are of the household of faith (believers).the post I made was a request for the insults to stop really
maybe the insults will stop ... maybe they won't ...
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If that was the case, then those who reject would know nothing about Him. However, there are many who are not believers who know of the Lord Jesus Christ ... they just place their faith in the lie that He Who God says He is ... the savior of all mankind.
1 Timothy 4:9-11
9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.
10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
11 These things command and teach.
you are conflating what is written in John 6:44 with what is written in John 10:3 ... poor workmanship ...brightfame52 said:
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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I have not written anything about fancy ways..... ahhhh but you do add your ways of interpretation especially in the area of speaking in "tongues" which are earthly human languages, the word "tongues" is an archaic English word for languages.
You are not accepting Paul's use of figurative language when he gives the congregants at Corinth instruction, as well, there are historical aspects of the Corinth at the time which also must be taken into account, so there is that.
It is actually without context and proper hermeneutics that scripture can be made to mean anything, it supplies the necessary guard rails.
Yes, sometimes scripture is time specific, that does not mean it is not for today, it means it needs to be understood in light of what it meant to the original audience.
I wanted to correct your misinterpretation of what I wrote (ironic) and I am done.
"salvation by persevering in your faith, that's a works based religion"
False alert.