Does God Limit Our Wealth, Time, and Resources For a Reason?

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Hello Everyone,

The title question is really just meant to open the floor for discussion -- I'm guessing that in most cases, people will say that yes, God limits our resources for a reason.

This isn't to say that there aren't times when we're meant to have more, or are being held back, or that we shouldn't keep asking, seeking, and knocking for a higher level of success. I'm sure we all have times where God is wanting to take us higher.

The things I'm thinking about are when people sometimes get into trouble when they have excess. I recently listened to an accountant who works for very wealthy clients, and he talked about one in particular who had gotten to a point of such extreme wealth, he was now living the life of Solomon, spending it all on women, wine, and wanton living. There was no luxury, want, or woman he would deny himself.

The accountant said that even though this client's life had long spiraled out of control, he had so much money coming in to support it, he saw no need to change.

And it doesn't have to be the ultra-wealthy, nor does it have to be about money.

I used to work with a woman who had been heavy-set her entire life. This was long before Ozempic, but she was able to lose a vast amount of weight through another means that was popular at the time. She had been married to her husband for many years -- I think all her life -- and had always talked about what a great guy he was, loving and supportive. He had accepted her even when she had been at her heaviest.

But once she lost the weight, for the first time in her life, men began to notice her. And she wound up leaving her husband to now explore the other "possibilities" that had not been available when she was heavy.

I've known others, just everyday middle-class people, who had problems with various things like alcohol, drugs, gambling, casual internet affairs -- but once they came into a little more money and/or a little more time, what might have been a "dabbling" before now became all-out addictions and full-time pursuits.

I have often thought about my own life, and how I should probably be thankful for my own limitations, because I don't know what kind of mischief I'd get into with a little extra money and a little extra time.

Now, I'm certainly not trying to say that poverty or being in lack to the point of it causing harm is a good thing in any way. I definitely believe there are legitimate needs, and that we as the body of Christ are called to help alleviate such suffering.

But I do often wonder if God sometimes puts caps on what we can obtain and what we can achieve -- because He alone knows the "little bit more" we're often striving for -- just might lead us into ruin.

How about you?

* Have you had instances where "a little bit more" of something wound up being more of a hassle than a help?

* Have you ever prospered in an area (time, talent, money, looks, authority, etc.) that wound up being harmful instead of helpful?

* Have you ever had to cut something back because too much of something was causing you to let it go to waste, misuse what you were given, or take for granted what you already had?

* Have you seen this in the lives of others -- finally reaching just a little too much -- and it wound up negatively affecting their lives?

I would be very interested in hearing your stories.
 
Have you seen this in the lives of others -- finally reaching just a little too much -- and it wound up negatively affecting their lives?

There was a guy I used to hang out with years ago. He was a lady's man. They all wanted to be with him. I envied him. He seemed to have most things go his way.

But age and time have taught me much about that kind of life. I'm thankful I didn't have the life He had. I had enough trouble with the few women that did like me.
 
The title question is really just meant to open the floor for discussion -- I'm guessing that in most cases, people will say that yes, God limits our resources for a reason.

I think for me, I haven't been blessed with this or that because God knew the hole I would dig or the trouble I would get in to because of it.

I will just say that I am thankful for the prayers that weren't answered and for all the times I was told "No".
 
I dunno... To say that God is actively limiting me implies I got what I have on my own, and now God is restricting me. But all that I have came from God. Even the stuff I worked to get, I used the abilities God gave me to get it.

I'm reminded of all the computers that I have redistributed ram between. Ram, random access memory, is what makes a computer faster. One computer may have a lot of ram, but I'm sending it to the church sound booth to record sermons. It doesn't need a lot of ram. So I give some of it's ram to another computer that I am going to be using for more demanding tasks. Sometimes I pull all the ram from three computers and redistribute it between them.

I think sometimes my computers are smarter than I am. They take what I give them and do the job I've set them the best they can with what they have.

I do believe God deliberately decides what to give which people, based on what he wants them to do. This includes talents, abilities, money and other aspects.

If you know someone who has a lot, they might be expected to do a lot. If you know somebody who has a lot but does not do a lot, they may have a lot of questions to answer at the end of life.
 
Hello Everyone,

The title question is really just meant to open the floor for discussion -- I'm guessing that in most cases, people will say that yes, God limits our resources for a reason.

This isn't to say that there aren't times when we're meant to have more, or are being held back, or that we shouldn't keep asking, seeking, and knocking for a higher level of success. I'm sure we all have times where God is wanting to take us higher.

The things I'm thinking about are when people sometimes get into trouble when they have excess. I recently listened to an accountant who works for very wealthy clients, and he talked about one in particular who had gotten to a point of such extreme wealth, he was now living the life of Solomon, spending it all on women, wine, and wanton living. There was no luxury, want, or woman he would deny himself.

The accountant said that even though this client's life had long spiraled out of control, he had so much money coming in to support it, he saw no need to change.

And it doesn't have to be the ultra-wealthy, nor does it have to be about money.

I used to work with a woman who had been heavy-set her entire life. This was long before Ozempic, but she was able to lose a vast amount of weight through another means that was popular at the time. She had been married to her husband for many years -- I think all her life -- and had always talked about what a great guy he was, loving and supportive. He had accepted her even when she had been at her heaviest.

But once she lost the weight, for the first time in her life, men began to notice her. And she wound up leaving her husband to now explore the other "possibilities" that had not been available when she was heavy.

I've known others, just everyday middle-class people, who had problems with various things like alcohol, drugs, gambling, casual internet affairs -- but once they came into a little more money and/or a little more time, what might have been a "dabbling" before now became all-out addictions and full-time pursuits.

I have often thought about my own life, and how I should probably be thankful for my own limitations, because I don't know what kind of mischief I'd get into with a little extra money and a little extra time.

Now, I'm certainly not trying to say that poverty or being in lack to the point of it causing harm is a good thing in any way. I definitely believe there are legitimate needs, and that we as the body of Christ are called to help alleviate such suffering.

But I do often wonder if God sometimes puts caps on what we can obtain and what we can achieve -- because He alone knows the "little bit more" we're often striving for -- just might lead us into ruin.

How about you?

* Have you had instances where "a little bit more" of something wound up being more of a hassle than a help?

* Have you ever prospered in an area (time, talent, money, looks, authority, etc.) that wound up being harmful instead of helpful?

* Have you ever had to cut something back because too much of something was causing you to let it go to waste, misuse what you were given, or take for granted what you already had?

* Have you seen this in the lives of others -- finally reaching just a little too much -- and it wound up negatively affecting their lives?

I would be very interested in hearing your stories.


A lot to think and pray about here, very good thoughts and realistic topics.
A few things come to mind....

The Lord provides all that we have, and it does seem that over abundance CAN lead to temptations which can make it much easier to fall into things we wouldn't otherwise even consider.

Abundance of money? Well "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."


Abundance of time? " Idle mind/hands are the devils workshop."


Abundance of knowledge? "too smart for your own good.."


I think the principal is, sometimes not having excess is a blessing in of itself, even if at the present time it may feel harder or unfair. Also, if our Father does provide in abundance, to seek Him in how we use the extra resources... wether it is , time or money or energy or knowledge.

As far as I am concerned, yes at times I have allowed my head to grow too big for my body. I also still seek growth in how to be better with what our Lord provides.


Many years ago I was also a bit of an enabler at one point, giving too freely and allowing some to develop bad habits instead of the urgency they needed.

But God is good and has worked through many of my mistakes to help me learn.
 
Philippians 4:19, promising God will supply all needs, and Matthew 6:33, advising to seek God's kingdom first for His provision, while 2 Corinthians 9:8 speaks of God making grace abound for sufficiency, and Psalm 145:15-16 notes how He feeds all creatures, showing His consistent care.

Also, Romans 3:11-12:
“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”

The Bible is clear that all men from birth are born into this world as sinners, and no one is made righteous without the blood of Christ. God also provides what we need through various means. The question, "Does God Limit Our Wealth, Time, and Resources For a Reason?" could be interpreted differently by everyone, I'm sure, but I would rather answer it like this: God has foreknowledge and knows everything, so he will provide each person with what he already knew would be best to shape that person into whomever he or she will turn out to be (this is especially true for the Christian). It is not a bad thing if God does not give us what we want, because sometimes what we want is not good.
 
Philippians 4:19, promising God will supply all needs, and Matthew 6:33, advising to seek God's kingdom first for His provision, while 2 Corinthians 9:8 speaks of God making grace abound for sufficiency, and Psalm 145:15-16 notes how He feeds all creatures, showing His consistent care.

Also, Romans 3:11-12:
“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”

The Bible is clear that all men from birth are born into this world as sinners, and no one is made righteous without the blood of Christ. God also provides what we need through various means. The question, "Does God Limit Our Wealth, Time, and Resources For a Reason?" could be interpreted differently by everyone, I'm sure, but I would rather answer it like this: God has foreknowledge and knows everything, so he will provide each person with what he already knew would be best to shape that person into whomever he or she will turn out to be (this is especially true for the Christian). It is not a bad thing if God does not give us what we want, because sometimes what we want is not good.

I could be wrong, but I'm wondering if you only read the title and not the original post, because the OP discussed this very thing.
 
I could be wrong, but I'm wondering if you only read the title and not the original post, because the OP discussed this very thing.

I read the post, but sorry, I guess I was answering in a more of a "getting at the heart" answer.

What's OP stand for?
 
I read the post, but sorry, I guess I was answering in a more of a "getting at the heart" answer. What's OP stand for?

No worries!

The people who answer my threads are usually long-time Christians well-acquainted with Scripture, so I'm usually after more personal life stories and observations rather than the Scriptures many already know.

But I see you're new to the site -- welcome to CC! -- and had no way of knowing this. And of course, including an in-depth, Scripturally-centered answers are great, too (especially for newer Christians who might be reading.)

Because many of the readers who answer my posts already know the passages related to the topics I post very well, I like to ask about real-life cases in which people have experienced these very things (and how it panned out.)

But you gave a great answer and I thank you for taking the time to post!

OP stands for "Original Post," meaning the one that starts off/explains the topic/purpose of the thread. :)
 
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I had a major in mathematics and a minor in computer science but God directed me into graduating in nursing instead. God explained that math and cs would become idols for me if I kept going with those subjects. And He would be right about it. Maybe I can persue a career in mathematics in the next age when we're all transformed and I would have more self-control not to make math and cs idols.

I also love children - they would definitely become idols in my life if God had me married, and probably my husband too to a lesser degree if he belonged to God and I didn't have to worry about him breaking our vows before God.


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No worries!

The people who answer my threads are usually long-time Christians well-acquainted with Scripture, so I'm usually after more personal life stories and observations rather than the Scriptures many already know.

But I see you're new to the site -- welcome to CC! -- and had no way of knowing this. And of course, including an in-depth, Scripturally-centered answers are great, too (especially for newer Christians who might be reading.)

Because many of the readers who answer my posts already know the passages related to the topics I post very well, I like to ask about real-life cases in which people have experienced these very things (and how it panned out.)

But you gave a great answer and I thank you for taking the time to post!

OP stands for "Original Post," meaning the one that starts off/explains the topic/purpose of the thread. :)

I see... and thanks for explaining!
 
There was a guy I used to hang out with years ago. He was a lady's man. They all wanted to be with him. I envied him. He seemed to have most things go his way.

But age and time have taught me much about that kind of life. I'm thankful I didn't have the life He had. I had enough trouble with the few women that did like me.

Thank you for sharing this!!

I have envied lots of other women who were known for their beauty, but also heard some stories of the grief it could cause as well.

As I've grown up, I thank God that I've never had to deal with stalker.

(I am not saying at all that you need to be especially beautiful to have problems with stalkers; this was just one issue I later realized some very beautiful people have and I'm grateful that I haven't had to face it.)
 
I had a major in mathematics and a minor in computer science but God directed me into graduating in nursing instead. God explained that math and cs would become idols for me if I kept going with those subjects. And He would be right about it. Maybe I can persue a career in mathematics in the next age when we're all transformed and I would have more self-control not to make math and cs idols.

I also love children - they would definitely become idols in my life if God had me married, and probably my husband too to a lesser degree if he belonged to God and I didn't have to worry about him breaking our vows before God.🥳

Thank you for sharing this!! I can relate to this post very well.

Once upon a time, I wanted to be a criminal psychologist, and I wanted to work on the worst cases. I don't know why -- I've just always had some sort of inner draw. When my husband left, I was thisclose to finishing my Master's degree -- I think I'd complete all my classwork and was finishing my Master's thesis. But when he left, it also left me with all the bills, so I quit school to take on a full-time job, and never made it back.

These days, I'm glad. I am now positive I would have burnt out in less than a year, not just because of the stress of the environment, but because of having to work around all the red tape of the insurance companies with everyday clients. I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that because insurance will only pay for certain issues, I would have always had to try to label people with things that didn't apply to them in order to try to get them treatment. I could not have lived with constantly having to lie, even for a good cause.

And I'm not criticizing anyone who has to work around insurance like this -- I admire those who can work in the fields I know I could not have survived in.

I wasn't able to resist the "pull" though, and that's why I got into prison ministries that I have often talked about.

God told me to stop out of safety concerns, but I've always kind of hoped He would call me back into it. I figure, I've gone this long without remarrying, what's the rest of my life, right? Because I doubt any guy would want a wife who worked with inmates.

However, I also think one of the reasons He hasn't called me back to it (for now) is because I could easily become consumed by the work, and make it into an idol.
 
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Thank you for sharing this!! I can relate to this post very well.

Once upon a time, I wanted to be a criminal psychologist, and I wanted to work on the worst cases. I don't know why -- I've just always had some sort of inner draw. When my husband left, I was thisclose to finishing my Master's degree -- I think I'd complete all my classwork and was finishing my Master's thesis. But when he left, it also left me with all the bills, so I quit school to take on a full-time job, and never made it back.

These days, I'm glad. I am now positive I would have burnt out in less than a year, not just because of the stress of the environment, but because of having to work around all the red tape of the insurance companies with everyday clients. I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that because insurance will only pay for certain issues, I would have always had to try to label people with things that didn't apply to them in order to try to get them treatment. I could not have lived with constantly having to lie, even for a good cause.

And I'm not criticizing anyone who has to work around insurance like this -- I admire those who can work in the fields I know I could not have survived in.

I wasn't able to resist the "pull" though, and that's why I got into prison ministries that I have often talked about.

God told me to stop out of safety concerns, but I've always kind of hoped He would call me back into it. I figure, I've gone this long without remarrying, what's the rest of my life, right? Because I doubt any guy would want a wife who worked with inmates.

However, I also think one of the reasons He hasn't called me back to it (for now) is because I could easily become consumed by the work, and make it into an idol.


Oh wow, criminal psychology would have been incredibly interesting work! The stories you could tell us with your writing skill!

Sometimes I watch police interrogations on YouTube and it's can be really shocking how and why a person would commit all sorts of crime. There was one that made me cry. At first all you see is this cocky teenager who killed his dad and I'm thinking what a murderous jerk he was. But as the interrogation continued, more of the truth came out. It was already well-known to the police that the father was extremely abusive to his kids and also extremely mentally ill and violently perverted. It turned out the father wanted his son to have a sex change so he can marry his son. That was the last straw for the son. That was his reason, his confession, why he kiled his father. But the way he confessed it was so heart-breaking - you could hear the fear in his voice at the thought of being around his evil and crazy father. Anyway, everyone knew what his father was like including the judge - the teenager was found guilty but only sentenced to 3-1/2 years in jail. The impact of the evil father on this poor teenager was too much to bear however and he committed suicide three years after he was released from prison.

So you would face cases like this. I personally wouldn't be able to deal with this. There are other police interrogations that were pretty bad but I really don't want talk about this anymore. I don't know - maybe God protected you from making a career in criminal psychology because it can be emotionally and mentally taxing to have to deal with these cases too and not just because it can become an idol.


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Hello Everyone,

The title question is really just meant to open the floor for discussion -- I'm guessing that in most cases, people will say that yes, God limits our resources for a reason.

This isn't to say that there aren't times when we're meant to have more, or are being held back, or that we shouldn't keep asking, seeking, and knocking for a higher level of success. I'm sure we all have times where God is wanting to take us higher.

The things I'm thinking about are when people sometimes get into trouble when they have excess. I recently listened to an accountant who works for very wealthy clients, and he talked about one in particular who had gotten to a point of such extreme wealth, he was now living the life of Solomon, spending it all on women, wine, and wanton living. There was no luxury, want, or woman he would deny himself.

The accountant said that even though this client's life had long spiraled out of control, he had so much money coming in to support it, he saw no need to change.

And it doesn't have to be the ultra-wealthy, nor does it have to be about money.

I used to work with a woman who had been heavy-set her entire life. This was long before Ozempic, but she was able to lose a vast amount of weight through another means that was popular at the time. She had been married to her husband for many years -- I think all her life -- and had always talked about what a great guy he was, loving and supportive. He had accepted her even when she had been at her heaviest.

But once she lost the weight, for the first time in her life, men began to notice her. And she wound up leaving her husband to now explore the other "possibilities" that had not been available when she was heavy.

I've known others, just everyday middle-class people, who had problems with various things like alcohol, drugs, gambling, casual internet affairs -- but once they came into a little more money and/or a little more time, what might have been a "dabbling" before now became all-out addictions and full-time pursuits.

I have often thought about my own life, and how I should probably be thankful for my own limitations, because I don't know what kind of mischief I'd get into with a little extra money and a little extra time.

Now, I'm certainly not trying to say that poverty or being in lack to the point of it causing harm is a good thing in any way. I definitely believe there are legitimate needs, and that we as the body of Christ are called to help alleviate such suffering.

But I do often wonder if God sometimes puts caps on what we can obtain and what we can achieve -- because He alone knows the "little bit more" we're often striving for -- just might lead us into ruin.

How about you?

* Have you had instances where "a little bit more" of something wound up being more of a hassle than a help?

* Have you ever prospered in an area (time, talent, money, looks, authority, etc.) that wound up being harmful instead of helpful?

* Have you ever had to cut something back because too much of something was causing you to let it go to waste, misuse what you were given, or take for granted what you already had?

* Have you seen this in the lives of others -- finally reaching just a little too much -- and it wound up negatively affecting their lives?

I would be very interested in hearing your stories.
I am so glad and thankful to God that my hubby and I and Amy the cat have enough . We r not what most people would call rich and I'm very glad about that , I would fall into so many pits if I was rich , I would become far too entangled in the pleasures of this life , I know that for sure . We have enough for the basics and a bit left over for treats / emergencies etc . Thanks to God for that ❤️ any more would end up being a massive distraction and a worldly anchor that I don't need or want .
 
I have envied lots of other women who were known for their beauty, but also heard some stories of the grief it could cause as well.

As I've grown up, I thank God that I've never had to deal with stalker.

(I am not saying at all that you need to be especially beautiful to have problems with stalkers; this was just one issue I later realized some very beautiful people have and I'm grateful that I haven't had to face it.)
In the same vein, I'm glad I'm not famous. Seeing all the games the media plays with famous people's lives, just to get more ratings... I never have to worry that people across the country will believe a lie about me just because the media wanted to spin a story a certain way.

I'm glad I have a family who cares about me, but that's a good place to stop. I'm VERY glad nobody else has a reason to care about me. =^.^=
 
In the same vein, I'm glad I'm not famous. Seeing all the games the media plays with famous people's lives, just to get more ratings... I never have to worry that people across the country will believe a lie about me just because the media wanted to spin a story a certain way.

I'm glad I have a family who cares about me, but that's a good place to stop. I'm VERY glad nobody else has a reason to care about me. =^.^=

The true hallmarks of a Gen X-er. :D
They say that Gen Xers are so self reliant that it’s almost scary.

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I'm glad I only have two hands. I already drop enough stuff. Knowing me, if I had more than two hands, I would get way overconfident... Well, even more overconfident... and wind up dropping even more stuff.

I don't need a shopping cart, he said to himself for the 30th time. This won't be anything like the last 29 times I went to the store.