How christian is Mr Trump and his friends ?

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First of all: I am from North Europe. Specifically from Norway.

Now; what we see from the news here is that Mr Trump wants Greenland. Are you in doubt of that?
Just listen to what Mr Trump says, he said : "We need Greenland !"

He has repeated this over and over. Now, Greenland is not part of US. It's a part of the kingdom of Denmark.
Much like Alaska is a part of US. Understand?

So, if Greenland is of Denmark, but Mr Trump wants it, how can he accomplish that? Through violence?
This is just an (another) example of how Mr Trump acts, and I have to ask you:

Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
 
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the_seeker said:
Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
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Boy you are confused.
Trump is not Christian first of all and the United States government is separate from religion and has a constitution.
I mean this is basic 101 stuff for many countries including yours.

Now, what changes in history is who is the current empire.
For example when Europe was invading some area centuries ago, they didn’t ask the locals for their opinion did they?
I mean you should know this from History too.

Why are you so programmed by your system bro?
Can’t you think on your own?
 
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the_seeker said:
First of all: I am from North Europe. Specifically from Norway.

Now; what we see from the news here is that Mr Trump wants Greenland. Are you in doubt of that?
Just listen to what Mr Trump says, he said : "We need Greenland !"

He has repeated this over and over. Now, Greenland is not part of US. It's a part of the kingdom of Denmark.
Much like Alaska is a part of US. Understand?

So, if Greenland is of Denmark, but Mr Trump wants it, how can he accomplish that? Through violence?
This is just an (another) example of how Mr Trump acts, and I have to ask you:

Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
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When he gets his mind set on something he will do it one way or another. It's like his golf course in Scotland; the people didn't want it and rejected it, but he got some influential business people on his side and eventually weaseled his way in. That's what I suspect is going to happen with Greenland: He'll try the nice approach and when that doesn't work he'll try to take it take by force.
 
I admit it, but I cant wait till it crosses his mind that he needs Texas for some strategic reason and comes down here and overthrows our government and repairs our roads, fixes our economy and sends all of his elite buddies to open businesses here.
 
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I admit it, but I cant wait till it crosses his mind that he needs Texas for some strategic reason and comes down here and overthrows our government and repairs our roads, fixes our economy and sends all of his elite buddies to open businesses here.
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Well, sort of agree, but isn't the fellowship of NATO more important than the roads in Texas ?
 
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Well, sort of agree, but isn't the fellowship of NATO more important than the roads in Texas ?
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Friend if the fellowship of NATO is what you see as important I suggest you join the military in Norway and help get ready to defend yourselves. In places like Texas we cant fix the roads let alone afford to play NATO anymore because we need help.
 
the_seeker said:
Aha.... so what you say is kind of .... NATO is of no value to you ?
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No that's not what I said at all. You an NATO are on your own because we are broke, trillions of dollars in debt. We are trimming SNAP,SS and every social program in the nation and trying to find every penny from fraud waste and abuse we can trim down. Broke means broke like open the icebox and it's empty. So NATO's not of no value but there's no pennies left in the piggy bank to feed it.
 
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No that's not what I said at all. You an NATO are on your own because we are broke, trillions of dollars in debt. We are trimming SNAP,SS and every social program in the nation and trying to find every penny from fraud waste and abuse we can trim down. Broke means broke like open the icebox and it's empty. So NATO's not of no value but there's no pennies left in the piggy bank to feed it.
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OK I see your point.
But there is a way of fixing the bad roads in Texas; and that is to let the rich and lucky ones to pay more taxes, so the taxes can fix the roads of your state.

Agree or not agree ?
 
the_seeker said:
OK I see your point.
But there is a way of fixing the bad roads in Texas; and that is to let the rich and lucky ones to pay more taxes, so the taxes can fix the roads of your state.

Agree or not agree ?
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Didn't work that way when we paid the taxes last time we still got pot holes everywhere. You folks got NATO out of it though at the expense of it, we got pot holes. In the end the rich and lucky ones ate our bread as fast as we baked it both here and in Norway where you live.
 
the_seeker said:
Well, sort of agree, but isn't the fellowship of NATO more important than the roads in Texas ?
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Yes, NATO's important, but Donald has signaled for a long time he doesn't care that much about NATO.

What could possibly be his motive for launching an attack that would trigger a NATO attack on the US? If the NATO countries became preoccupied in a war with the US, they wouldn't be able to help Ukraine, and that would make it easier for Russia to defeat Ukraine. Who knows what kind of secret deals he's already struck with Putin.

This is all speculation at this point, but one thing's for certain: the Donald never reveals his true intentions right away.
 
I think the Don is testing NATO and Europe to see if it is worth continued sponsorship or not.
 
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This is all speculation at this point, but one thing's for certain: the Donald never reveals his true intentions right away.
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Yeah, RA, I agree with you.
It might be that Putin has some really intimitaded documentation of Mr Trump's godless actions, I don't know, but for the time being I have to ask you Americans:
Do you consider Greenland as a part of USA or not?

I you answer yes to this question I am most curious of hearing your arguments, which should be pretty good I have to say.
 
Squigglylines said:
Didn't work that way when we paid the taxes last time we still got pot holes everywhere. You folks got NATO out of it though at the expense of it, we got pot holes. In the end the rich and lucky ones ate our bread as fast as we baked it both here and in Norway where you live.
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Well my friend, in Norway it's like this:
We have have a progressive tax graph which means the richest ones pay more % of taxes than the not so lucky ones.
Let me take an example, converted into dollars for your convinience (numbers in dollars * 1000 per annuals) :

Income 15$ annualy: Tax 10%, left is 13.5 (please remember to multiply it with 1000)
Income 30$ annualy: Tax 20%, left is 24
Income 80$ : Tax 40%, left is 48

So, in my view, 48000 $ is more than enough to have a reasonable good life. Agree?
As I view it, a progressive tax system like we have it in Norway is a fair and good way of running the society. I am pretty close to saying that it's a way of running things close to what Jesus preached.

And that is interesting, being the fact that I am an atheist and do not think there is a God.
 
the_seeker said:
Do you consider Greenland as a part of USA or not?
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I certainly don't. I haven't heard anyone say they think Greenland is part of the US; there might be a few truly deluded souls who do think that though. The real debate in the US is should the US use military force to take Greenland. I don't think it's a good idea.

First of all, it's not necessary. Denmark has already said they want to be cooperative with US and help us in any way possible. And second, invading Greenland is not in the US' best interest; it certainly won't increase US national security but will very likely have unintended consequences. Lastly, the EU is not a run down third-world country like Venezuela; Donald and his regime may find they've bitten off more than they can chew.

But we know that what's in the US' best interest and what's in the Donald's best interest don't always coincide.
 
the_seeker said:
First of all: I am from North Europe. Specifically from Norway.

Now; what we see from the news here is that Mr Trump wants Greenland. Are you in doubt of that?
Just listen to what Mr Trump says, he said : "We need Greenland !"

He has repeated this over and over. Now, Greenland is not part of US. It's a part of the kingdom of Denmark.
Much like Alaska is a part of US. Understand?

So, if Greenland is of Denmark, but Mr Trump wants it, how can he accomplish that? Through violence?
This is just an (another) example of how Mr Trump acts, and I have to ask you:

Are his intentions and acts in accordance with christian thinking and behaviour? And of course this is not limited to Mr Trump alone, we have to include his friends in his administration, like Mr Vance. Isn't he a catholic? How can one support these intentions in accordance with catholic ethics and thinking?

I just have to ask you.
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Good question. I'm on the other side of the world, but we hear plenty about Mr Trump's words and deeds. I se no evidence that Mr Trump is born again. And being born again is my definition of Christian.
 
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