The Greatest depression is coming, are you ready?

[DallasMan]

Repent, come out of her my people. Anyone who followed the advice I gave in 2022 to buy silver is not in any financial difficulty, that silver is worth 4x what they bought it for. That isn't a solution, only a stop gap measure. I repeated that call to action many times, close to 200x.

This thread focuses on the coming great depression. But on other threads like the ones about Christmas I have focused on the "coming out of her my people". I have referred to the apostasy more than 700x on this forum.

And sadly your calls to action didn't get anybody born again failing to teach others to abide in Christ and live for the Lord

Might have put a few dollars in their pocket, but that's not what's important in this life.

In touch with your inner chicken little peddling fear screaming "the sky is falling"

Then there's the lies by Candace Owens you love repeating so much

 

[ZNP]

And sadly your calls to action didn't get anybody born again failing to teach others to abide in Christ and live for the Lord

Might have put a few dollars in their pocket, but that's not what's important in this life.

In touch with your inner chicken little peddling fear screaming "the sky is falling"

Then there's the lies by Candace Owens you love repeating so much View attachment 283649

My blog has shared 15,000 posts on the word of God. I have not missed a single day since I started posting on it. I am now close to 800,000 people who have visited that blog. I will have to stand before the Lord to be judged by Him, not by you. And you also will have to stand before Him to be judged by Him and this post of yours will be an example of the word that you will be judged by.

 

[DallasMan]

My blog has shared 15,000 posts on the word of God. I have not missed a single day since I started posting on it. I am now close to 800,000 people who have visited that blog.

Wow, ain't you something!

And you also will have to stand before Him to be judged by Him and this post of yours will be an example of the word that you will be judged by.

Yes, He's the one leading me to warn people such as yourself who peddle fear and conspiracy theories

 

[ZNP]

The day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night

Several days ago the Comex passed three new rules increasing the margin requirements on silver. In order to fulfill that you would have to move money from another account to the Comex. However, they did this Christmas in the middle of the night. Most banks were only open for limited hours on Friday and most traders were on vacation. As a result it was next to impossible for most people to meet the deadline and this morning when they opened the exchange they closed out all those margin accounts for cash. It is called "Force Majeur" or forced selling. If you look at the volume it was at record volume by 10am with 187,000 contracts being traded. This is the rug being pulled out from under those who bought paper silver. So while paper silver was sold between $71 and $75 dollars an ounce this morning real physical silver was bought in China for $91 just a few hours earlier. This is a desperate attempt to save the banks from bankruptcy.

The problem is that no one will trust the Comex and LBMA after this. Without trust and faith that entire market will collapse. If this spike in the price of silver were based on speculators using margin then this approach might actually work. But what is driving this move is foreign countries like China and India, and also industrial demand. Solar panels are a major driver of this shortage and if the US is seizing oil destined for China it makes the need to manufacture solar panels even more critical. We are only half way into ghost week and already these markets have been exposed as having no fruit of righteousness. What was it the Lord said to that fig tree? Matthew 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. For years they made money selling options on a relatively stable investment, the ideal investment to sell calls and puts on. But now when it is time for those who have been looking for fruit from this market to finally get paid they pull the rug out from under them.

You were warned.

Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

What watch? Ghost week from Christmas to New Years when "no one is home" at these financial institutions.

Luke 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

If you knew they were coming during ghost week you could have closed your margin accounts before hand. It is quite simple, if you have borrowed 50%, then you sell 50%, and you don't have any silver on margin anymore. Or you stand for delivery. Or when you saw backwardation you get out of the Comex and LBMA and go to China. There were many warnings, those who just got caught ignored those warnings. Do you know why? Because it wasn't their money. They were paid to do what they were doing. It didn't matter to them if they lost money, it wasn't their money. They were hirelings, not shepherds.

1Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

 

[ZNP]

One Australian bullion dealer, ABC Bullion, has reportedly stopped pegging the silver spot price to COMEX pricing and is now using Shanghai pricing, effective December 28, 2025.
This action is attributed to a significant dislocation between the paper futures market (COMEX) and the physical market, with physical sellers refusing to sell at the paper futures prices. This move is being cited as a potential "direct break in the paper silver market".
It is important to note:

• This appears to be the action of a single, albeit significant, Australian dealer, not the entire country of Australia or its stock exchange (ASX).
• The broader market context involves high volatility and record prices in precious metals, with ongoing discussions and disruptions in global trade flows and pricing benchmarks for various commodities (like copper) amid recent geopolitical and tariff-related events.

 

[ZNP]

I went online and confirmed that three companies selling Silver Eagles were selling them at $84-$85 each despite the spot price being $71. The Comex has destroyed their credibility.

 

[ZNP]

I went online and confirmed that three companies selling Silver Eagles were selling them at $84-$85 each despite the spot price being $71. The Comex has destroyed their credibility.

I also checked a reputable dealer here in our city and he is pricing silver $5.50 above the spot price. But his business may be resale, meaning people come in and sell their silver to him which he then turns around and sells to others.

So the major bullion dealers are no longer using Comex, but the local shops may be using it as a guide.

 

[ZNP]

Protests Break Out in Iran as Currency Hits New Low Record

 

[ZNP]

Blood in the water

The selloff yesterday was a forced liquidation because the exchange had just recently changed the margin requirements. These changes are designed to reduce speculation. If the run on silver was due to speculators you would see the price collapse because they all cannot afford to keep their positions and would be forced to sell.

However, if this rise is due to basic supply vs demand curve with demand increasing while supply is decreasing, it will be very short lived, those who need to buy silver will see this as a buying opportunity.

But here is the bad news, you will not keep the speculators away. These rules do not in any way prohibit the purchase of silver and taking it for delivery. If I bought $100 million worth of silver and took it for delivery for my hedge fund, I could then put it in a bank and use that as collateral for a loan from the bank. I expect they would have no problem loaning me $50 million which I could then use to buy more silver and now I have $150 million in the bank and only borrowed $50 million. They would likely loan me another $25 million and I could put that in the bank as well. So now I have $175 million worth of silver. Suppose silver goes up from $70 to $80. Now I have $200 million worth of silver and I only borrowed $75 million. They would likely loan me another $25 million.

So the speculators can continue to operate only this time it is worse because when they buy it is not on paper but they are taking possession of the physical silver.

This is easier than it sounds. Your stack of silver can stay in the Comex vault and they just put a sign on this that it belongs to you and cannot be sold to anyone else and the deed to that silver is all you would need as collateral to borrow more money from another lender.

Speculators are like blood hounds or sharks. They smell blood and they are off and running. So for example, the forced sale will likely leave all these speculators with a fist full of cash and they will immediately be lining up a line of credit elsewhere to continue with their speculation.

 

[ZNP]

$100 SILVER IN CHINA | Western Vaults Are Being Drained To Feed The East

This is a comprehensive overview of the situation.

1. Open interest is falling indicating that people are closing their short positions.

2. 0.5% of Pension funds assets would be $50 billion, whereas the annual production of silver is $25 billion. Since silver is the best performing asset and will be a hedge against inflation it is reasonable that these pension funds will buy up some silver. However, there is no silver to be bought at $75 an ounce. They will have to come in at $100 or higher an ounce and they will want to do this before January 1 so that it will show up on the books for 2025.

3. All those who have purchased contracts for silver at $75 or thereabouts are not going to roll those contracts over, why would they when they can sell that silver for $100 in China? No, they will take delivery and that is when the price of silver will skyrocket. What happens when a bank sells a call option at $75 but doesn't actually own silver? They will instead buy a call option at $80 from another bank and assume that this higher call option will cover their position should silver break $75. And the bank that sold the call option for $80 will buy one for $85 from a different bank. As you can see all these options, estimated at 200:1 ounce of silver are like dominoes. When people stand for delivery and there is no silver, it is like lighting a match to the fuse on a bomb. The smart money will hold onto their silver as all of these options are exercised and the price for silver skyrockets. In one or two days the price could jump astronomically as these banks scramble to find silver or else go bankrupt.

 

[ZNP]

Yes, recent market reports and social media posts from late December 2025 suggest that physical silver is reportedly selling for around or over $100 per ounce in some local Chinese markets, a significant premium over the global "paper" or spot price.

Reasons for the Price Disconnect
This high price in China is attributed to a severe supply squeeze and high local demand, which has created a disconnect from Western paper markets.

• Supply Shortfall: Global silver production has been in deficit for several years, with the current year (2025) expected to be the fifth straight annual shortfall.
• Chinese Export Restrictions: A major catalyst for the surge is China's plan to impose new export controls on silver starting January 1, 2026. This requires government licenses and limits approved producers, threatening to curb international supply overnight.
• Massive Demand: China accounts for a large portion of global silver output, and internal demand is currently "too big" for the available supply, with warehouse inventories on the Shanghai Futures Exchange plunging to very low levels.
• Market Disconnect: While paper markets like the COMEX have seen price volatility and margin hikes, the price for immediate physical delivery in some local shops in China and the UAE has reportedly soared much higher than the global spot price, which has been closer to the $77–$80 range recently.

Financial news outlets and market analysts have noted the situation, with some citing reports of retail prices ranging from $86 to over $100 an ounce in China as evidence of a "great shift" in the silver market.

 

[ZNP]

The prices of buying and selling silver and gold in China as of Dec. 30, 2025.

$87 an ounce for silver in China, $76.50 an ounce for silver in the US.

 

[ZNP]

Shanghai market closed the year at $84.50 an ounce.

In the UAE and Middle East the price is $79.61 an ounce.

Comex price is $71.23 an ounce at this moment.

This incredible spread of $13.27 between NY and Shanghai is a result of forced liquidations because they changed margin requirements at midnight on two different days. These forced sellings are allowing the Banks to cover their short positions with cash two days before they would be required to cover it with silver.

The US has prohibited anyone from buying silver in the US and shipping it to China. So you can no longer take advantage of arbitrage. This solves the problem of speculators taking advantage of arbitrage.

But it doesn't solve the problem of a lack of silver, a critical strategic element to the US that we need for AI Data Centers, EV's and missiles. The three biggest exporters of silver are China, Mexico and South Korea. UK, Germany, Switzerland and Japan are also exporters. Why would any of these countries export to the US if we are paying $13.27 an ounce less than they can get elsewhere? First the US needs to free the banks from their naked shorts, otherwise we could have had a total collapse of the US economy. Once they are free they will need to revalue silver dramatically to be able to win those exporters back. There were sales made in the $90-100 range abroad. JP Morgan has a huge stockpile of silver they were not willing to sell at those prices, perhaps as part of a deal to save the banks with the naked shorts. But as of January 2nd there will likely be many investors standing for delivery.

There has been a 26x demand for physical delivery on the Comex. Everyone knows the silver is far more valuable than the price they are paying.

 

[Brasspen]

This sounds like a pump and dump scheme that was used commonly with cryptocurrency.

 

[ZNP]

This sounds like a pump and dump scheme that was used commonly with cryptocurrency.

cryptocurrency is made entirely of bits and bytes on computers. Silver is a critical strategic element. The demand for silver in industrial manufacturing has skyrocketed. AI data centers require a lot of silver. Solar panels require a lot of silver. EV's require a lot of silver, and missiles require a lot of silver. Every single phone has a little bit of silver in it. This is why for the last six years the markets for silver have been drained, the demand exceeded the supply.

Then one month ago Samsung announced a new battery. Far superior to the ones that we currently have in EV's. You can charge the battery in 9 minutes, about 20% of the time of the existing batteries. And this battery eliminates the risk of the battery exploding into flames. That is when panic set in, they realized every single phone and every single EV will switch to this battery and these batteries use a lot of silver, this will be a huge increase in demand for silver. Samsung tried to buy 50 million ounces for their factory and all they could get was 5 million.

But it gets worse. Mexico and China and Peru are suspending or stopping their exports of silver. These are some of the biggest exporters in the world. They understand that the demand is much greater than the supply and they are being played by the Comex and LBMA. So until a fair price is paid that will return the world's market for silver to equilibrium, they are going to withhold exports.

It can take six years for a new silver mine to begin production. So this is a crisis.

Now the US had a problem, they had sold 200 derivatives for every ounce of silver. In other words, they had no way to deliver the actual silver if people were standing for delivery and the with the arbitrage in China everyone was standing for delivery. This threatened to bring down the entire banking system in the US. To avoid the collapse they changed the margin requirements at midnight and then liquidated people's holdings when the market opened. They did this twice. This is being done to allow the banks caught with naked shorts to settle in cash rather than having to get silver.

But here is the problem, all those people who were liquidated were liquidated in the black. They all made money and the arbitrage situation is still here. So then they can buy the silver this time without using margin, and then ship it to somewhere paying 15% more than the US and make an instant profit.

Because of this the US has banned exports. This solves the problem of arbitrage but doesn't solve the problem that no one wants to export silver to the US at these prices. As soon as the banks can close out their naked shorts you can expect the US to reprice silver at a very competitive price. Prices as high as $100 for silver have been recorded in the last week. So I expect the repricing to be higher than $100.

 

[ZNP]

But it gets worse.

Yes, there are many countries that mine silver and will export the ore to be refined. China controls 60-70% of refined silver. China has removed 60-70% of refined silver from the world's markets. This doesn't just impact the US, it impacts Europe as well. You cannot compete much less win the race for AI supremacy without silver. You can't manufacture EVs or missiles without silver. In WW2 Japan went to war with the US because we cut off their oil supply, data is considered the new oil. The world will go to war over silver.

He points out that China in 2010 cornered the market on rare earth elements and then drove up the price 600%. They are now in a position to do the same with silver.

 

[Brasspen]

That means the war drones too. As for the drones, all they do is fly at the target then explode. I don't think they need a battery that advanced when all it does is get wasted.

 

[ZNP]

That means the war drones too. As for the drones, all they do is fly at the target then explode. I don't think they need a battery that advanced, when all it does is get wasted.

unless you don't want the battery to burst into flames before it reaches the target

 

[stilllearning]

Shanghai market closed the year at $84.50 an ounce.

In the UAE and Middle East the price is $79.61 an ounce.

Comex price is $71.23 an ounce at this moment.

This incredible spread of $13.27 between NY and Shanghai is a result of forced liquidations because they changed margin requirements at midnight on two different days. These forced sellings are allowing the Banks to cover their short positions with cash two days before they would be required to cover it with silver.

The US has prohibited anyone from buying silver in the US and shipping it to China. So you can no longer take advantage of arbitrage. This solves the problem of speculators taking advantage of arbitrage.

But it doesn't solve the problem of a lack of silver, a critical strategic element to the US that we need for AI Data Centers, EV's and missiles. The three biggest exporters of silver are China, Mexico and South Korea. UK, Germany, Switzerland and Japan are also exporters. Why would any of these countries export to the US if we are paying $13.27 an ounce less than they can get elsewhere? First the US needs to free the banks from their naked shorts, otherwise we could have had a total collapse of the US economy. Once they are free they will need to revalue silver dramatically to be able to win those exporters back. There were sales made in the $90-100 range abroad. JP Morgan has a huge stockpile of silver they were not willing to sell at those prices, perhaps as part of a deal to save the banks with the naked shorts. But as of January 2nd there will likely be many investors standing for delivery.

There has been a 26x demand for physical delivery on the Comex. Everyone knows the silver is far more valuable than the price they are paying.

If you look at the Beijing Commodity Exchange or BC silver is $71.36, while the SHFE or Shanghai is $84. China charges a VAT tax on it's market. The VAT tax is 13%. The BC exchange charges the tax but prices it absent the tax. The SHFE prices in the tax as the listed price. The UAE also charges a VAT tax and they price it on those exchanges with the tax added. That is why there is a difference between them and the COMEX. As the price is the same minus the VAT tax.

Here is a article with more of the explanation why but just going to print this short explanation.

https://discoveryalert.com.au/shfe-bc-copper-price-spread-dynamics-2025/

What Causes the Price Spread Between SHFE Copper and BC Copper?

The Shanghai Futures Exchange (SHFE) and Beijing Commodity Exchange (BC) copper contracts represent the same underlying commodity but can trade at significantly different prices. This price divergence creates what traders call a "spread" that fluctuates based on multiple factors.

The Fundamentals of Copper Market Pricing Mechanisms

Different exchange platforms create unique price environments due to their specific contract specifications and participant bases. SHFE copper contracts have been established longer and typically attract more institutional investors and larger trading volumes, while BC copper markets often see more regional participation and different delivery specifications.

The taxation structure significantly impacts the price relationship. The most critical factor is China's 13% value-added tax (VAT) applied to BC copper but already included in SHFE prices. This tax differential is fundamental to understanding the spread calculation.

Spread Calculation Formula: SHFE price – (BC price × 1.13 VAT) = Current Spread​

I just seen I posted the article on copper instead of silver but it is the same for the various metals. There are also other factors and the article explains it but it gives a idea of why SHFE and COMEX have two different listed prices with the VAT tax being the biggest factor.

 

[Lynx]

If you look at the Beijing Commodity Exchange or BC silver is $71.36, while the SHFE or Shanghai is $84. China charges a VAT tax on it's market. The VAT tax is 13%. The BC exchange charges the tax but prices it absent the tax. The SHFE prices in the tax as the listed price. The UAE also charges a VAT tax and they price it on those exchanges with the tax added. That is why there is a difference between them and the COMEX. As the price is the same minus the VAT tax.

Here is a article with more of the explanation why but just going to print this short explanation.

https://discoveryalert.com.au/shfe-bc-copper-price-spread-dynamics-2025/

What Causes the Price Spread Between SHFE Copper and BC Copper?

The Shanghai Futures Exchange (SHFE) and Beijing Commodity Exchange (BC) copper contracts represent the same underlying commodity but can trade at significantly different prices. This price divergence creates what traders call a "spread" that fluctuates based on multiple factors.

The Fundamentals of Copper Market Pricing Mechanisms

Different exchange platforms create unique price environments due to their specific contract specifications and participant bases. SHFE copper contracts have been established longer and typically attract more institutional investors and larger trading volumes, while BC copper markets often see more regional participation and different delivery specifications.

The taxation structure significantly impacts the price relationship. The most critical factor is China's 13% value-added tax (VAT) applied to BC copper but already included in SHFE prices. This tax differential is fundamental to understanding the spread calculation.

Spread Calculation Formula: SHFE price – (BC price × 1.13 VAT) = Current Spread​

I just seen I posted the article on copper instead of silver but it is the same for the various metals. There are also other factors and the article explains it but it gives a idea of why SHFE and COMEX have two different listed prices with the VAT tax being the biggest factor.

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