“Christmas” is in a few days --- why do you observe it?

[ZNP]

Did you quote me on accident?

No, you were looking for a pattern in the New Testament to tie the celebration of Christmas to, and I also am looking for a pattern. You liken it to the wise men coming and giving gifts which immediately precedes Joseph, Mary and Jesus fleeing to Egypt. That flight is a shadow of the flight that will take place after the rapture. I also am looking for a pattern that aligns with the week that Jesus was crucified because I see the crucifixion of Jesus as a foreshadowing of the rapture. Those left behind will be like His body placed into the tomb for three days of darkness, while those raptured will be like the Spirit when the Lord cries out "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

The worship at Christmas reminds me of the worship on Palm Sunday.

 

[Levib]

No, you were looking for a pattern in the New Testament to tie the celebration of Christmas to, and I also am looking for a pattern. You liken it to the wise men coming and giving gifts which immediately precedes Joseph, Mary and Jesus fleeing to Egypt. That flight is a shadow of the flight that will take place after the rapture. I also am looking for a pattern that aligns with the week that Jesus was crucified because I see the crucifixion of Jesus as a foreshadowing of the rapture. Those left behind will be like His body placed into the tomb for three days of darkness, while those raptured will be like the Spirit when the Lord cries out "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

The worship at Christmas reminds me of the worship on Palm Sunday.

Then you might enjoy this documentary. The story of the star only starts with Jesus’ birth and doesn’t conclude until his death, on an eclipse day. The author uses something Peter says later, that there were signs in the heaven they all saw on the day of his death.

https://bethlehemstar.com/the-day-of-the-cross/peters-argument/

 

[4urenlightment]

So should we stop celebrating other holidays which Jesus does not specifically tell us to honor? Birthdays, Independence Day, Veterans Day, Easter, Israeli Independence Day 1948. Nations have always memorialized days for good reasons. Some people esteem one day above another, some treat every day the same.


Spoiler - The first ‘Christmas’ was likely the wise men coming to worship Jesus well after he is born. The wise men came from a far away country after they saw signs in the sky revealing to them the messiah was born. They didn’t arrive at his birth, they started their journey after he was born. Yet they were clearly celebrating and honoring his birth. Then the wise men left to remain unheard of. At the same time, Mary and Joseph are warned in a dream to flee to Egypt.

Who were the wise men (Oriental Scientists, Srongs: 3097)? Not Jews. Though the messiah was revealed to them separate from the Jews. No one else is recorded recognizing the signs they followed to Jesus. The author of the movie above has an interesting idea that maybe they were descendants of Daniel or his disciples.

Major Mind Blow - What if Christmas was memorialized by the wise men after they returned to their own country? Instead of celebrating his actual birthday, they celebrated the day they came to worship Jesus. The story of the wise men probably wasn’t widely known until much later. It makes sense that it wasn’t memorialized by the Jews or Christian’s early on because it didn’t happen to them. However, it makes sense that it would be adopted by the Christian’s once they learn of the holiday.

As long as it's done in Jesus' name, He'll bless that day that's representing Him

 

[Mem]

NO! nor SDA

LDS then?

 

[memberofthebride]

LDS then?

nope,, not in any of the 40,000. I fellowship on the Sabbath with a small number of like minded .

 

[memberofthebride]

As long as it's done in Jesus' name, He'll bless that day that's representing Him

Comment :

Where is that stated; that is a wide open door to absolute confusion, with the 40,000 flavors of confusion is that not enough? more confusion is welcomed??

Think logically; if the confusion found in 40,000 varieties of what is called "Christianity" is acceptable to God, then there are no boundaries, no right or wrong. man is free to worship however he wants and we have seen how that always ends.
death and destruction.

 

[4urenlightment]

Comment :

Where is that stated; that is a wide open door to absolute confusion, with the 40,000 flavors of confusion is that not enough? more confusion is welcomed??

Think logically; if the confusion found in 40,000 varieties of what is called "Christianity" is acceptable to God, then there are no boundaries, no right or wrong. man is free to worship however he wants and we have seen how that always ends.
death and destruction.

God gave Peter a vision about Him serving Peter pagan's foods, that He told him to eat. It's because there were Hellenistic Jews who converted from paganism will be offering to him food like pork, shrimps or crabs and other creepy crawlers that was common food at the time for them to eat when he comes over for Bible study. That as long as they prayed over their meal in Jesus' name, He can eat it. That praying over the meal in Jesus' name, cleanses it. We used to bless over our meals when I was a child to make sure that the food will not cause any harm to us like food poisoning and etc... That it was a quick short little prayer that we said that it went like this, "Lord, we ask you to bless over this meal that we are about to receive, in Jesus' name, Amen".
And as a child, if something like gum or candy falls from our mouths onto the ground, kids in at schools used to pick it back up and kiss it to God to represent that God kissed it to clean it and put the gum or candy back into our mouths.

back then, everyone had strong faith in God.

John 14:14
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Matthew 10:14
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet

Acts 6:1
In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Hellenistic Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food.