Saved by faith alone?

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
He could have developed his Typinator sets with AI, and then says he's not using AI when he posts copy/pastes from Typinator. I've come to expect this kind of deceitful behavior from him.
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Yes, I think I mentioned this before. Whatever ends up in Typinator is simply brought out with snippets of info. What is stored is developed by whatever means as far as I've looked.

It's basically always us at the end of the inquiry and what we're up to. I spent years in computers - they just tools and I can't tell you how many times I had to tell people it was them creating the problems, not the tool.
 
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Saved by Faith alone is the equivalent of saying saved by Jesus Christ alone. Whoever Jesus saves Faith is given so that they know Jesus saved them, not that He made their salvation possible, but that He saved them. That's what the Gift of Faith is for. Eph 2:8
 
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brightfame52 said:
Saved by Faith alone is the equivalent of saying saved by Jesus Christ alone. Whoever Jesus saves Faith is given so that they know Jesus saved them, not that He made their salvation possible, but that He saved them. That's what the Gift of Faith is for. Eph 2:8
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Faith is first presented and offered … and then is TAKEN for their own!


So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Romans 10:17


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I don’t really like the “faith alone” saying. It’s faith and love. Having faith in who He is and what He did won’t help you if you don’t love Him. You could even leave faith out and just say love since you can’t love something you don’t have faith in. Abraham loved God. Noah loved God. Stephen loved Him as He showed it in the greatest way by giving his life for Him. “Love Alone” encompasses faith and following His commandments. If I have faith that He’ll save me and live however I want then I don’t love Him. First comes faith then comes love. I could have faith in my wife but if I don’t love her the marriage is dead.
 
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Maybe we have not got full grasp by what Faith means. Lets start by trying to define it using Gods words. What all does it entail? Just what all do we have to believe for it to be saving faith?

I realize I am late to the discussion so if this has already been done then point me to the post# please.
 
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brightfame52 said:
Saved by Faith alone is the equivalent of saying saved by Jesus Christ alone. Whoever Jesus saves Faith is given so that they know Jesus saved them, not that He made their salvation possible, but that He saved them. That's what the Gift of Faith is for. Eph 2:8
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If the Gospel is nothing more than Jesus picking who will have faith in Him and who will not then the Gospel is not a hope but a mockery.

1st Timothy 2:3-4

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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On the issue of the antecedent of "it" in Eph 2:8=9, it is certainly not faith but is referring to grace.


Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
 
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It says distinctly that we have been saved by grace. Not faith.
But, saved by grace, through faith.

Without grace, we would have no faith.

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, ​
it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.​

Ephesians 2:8-9
 
Genez said:
It says distinctly that we have been saved by grace. Not faith.
But, saved by grace, through faith.

Without grace, we would have no faith.

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, ​
it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.​

Ephesians 2:8-9
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faith is the substance hoped for that comes from his grace,

And hope a long with mercy is a living hope and mercy placed in a persons heart,

But not by your choice or your will, but by God's will.

Living hope is the key to communion, without that key faith will not grow by your and choice and will.

For it is in his living hope we are saved which comes from his grace. Without this living hope there is no way to worship him appropriately.
 
Lamar said:
Does the phrase, "saved by faith" equivalent to the term, "saved by faith alone"?
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Neither phrase is adequate. A more better phrase is "saved by faith in Jesus as Messiah and Lord incarnate
rather than in Satan" (Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5, Col. 2:6, John 8:42-44).
 
TrustandObey said:
If the Gospel is nothing more than Jesus picking who will have faith in Him and who will not then the Gospel is not a hope but a mockery.

1st Timothy 2:3-4

For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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On the issue of the antecedent of "it" in Eph 2:8=9, it is certainly not faith but is referring to grace.


Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
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Whoever God desires/wills to be saved, its Jesus responsibility to save them, God sent Him into the world for that purpose.
 
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TrustandObey said:
If the Gospel is nothing more than Jesus picking who will have faith in Him
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Yes the Gospel isn't sent out to get anyone saved, Jesus did the saving, the Gospel is to enlightern, teach and instruct the ones Jesus already saved. Everyone Jesus saved will be given the Gift of Faith to believe in Him.
 
GWH said:
Neither phrase is adequate. A more better phrase is "saved by faith in Jesus as Messiah and Lord incarnate
rather than in Satan" (Acts 16:31, 2Cor. 4:5, Col. 2:6, John 8:42-44).
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Saved by the faith OF Jesus Christ- by His faith and faithfulness, not by man's. Christ alone is the Savior.
 
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rogerg said:
Saved by the faith OF Jesus Christ- by His faith and faithfulness, not by man's. Christ alone is the Savior.
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“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.” (Acts 16:31)
"This righteousness from God comes through faith in JC." (Rom. 3:22)
"You are all sons of God through faith in CJ." (Gal. 3:26)
"Ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints..." (Eph. 2:15)
"We have heard of your faith in CJ and of the love you have for all the saints." (Col. 1:4)
"...I delight to see how orderly you are and how firm your faith in Christ is." (Col. 2:5)
"We always thank God for... your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord JC." (1Thes. 1:2-3)
etcetera
 
GWH said:
“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.” (Acts 16:31)
"This righteousness from God comes through faith in JC." (Rom. 3:22)
"You are all sons of God through faith in CJ." (Gal. 3:26)
"Ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints..." (Eph. 2:15)
"We have heard of your faith in CJ and of the love you have for all the saints." (Col. 1:4)
"...I delight to see how orderly you are and how firm your faith in Christ is." (Col. 2:5)
"We always thank God for... your endurance inspired by hope in our Lord JC." (1Thes. 1:2-3)
etcetera
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You don't believe that Christ is the Savior and man isn't? Really? Are you a Christian?
 
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