“Christmas” is in a few days --- why do you observe it?

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I have been attempting to articulate my view of Xmas that would be clear and understandable to others.

Communication today is difficult to say the least.

I hope this will suffice:

If a tradition, custom, ritual, practice, holiday – what-ever -- has not been clearly observed and or taught by a man that IS a man of God such as, Moses, David, the prophets, the Apostles and of course Jesus Christ –and found in the WORD of GOD, then it is nothing more than a tradition of men. Man made!

I pass on traditions of men.

Thanksgiving with family, is a national day of thanksgiving to God, I do enjoy it.

Thanksgiving is a tradition of men - actually it was started by a woman as I recall. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or what. There are some people that make such absurd statements as a joke that it cannot be determined if the person was absurd, or pretending to be.

My odds are 50/50. Americans seem so jingoistic that I could see believing a national holiday is of God!!

Christmas is based on the BIRTH of our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus CHRIST. The whole nativity thing - found in scripture.
 
I have been attempting to articulate my view of Xmas that would be clear and understandable to others.

Communication today is difficult to say the least.

I hope this will suffice:

If a tradition, custom, ritual, practice, holiday – what-ever -- has not been clearly observed and or taught by a man that IS a man of God such as, Moses, David, the prophets, the Apostles and of course Jesus Christ –and found in the WORD of GOD, then it is nothing more than a tradition of men. Man made!

I pass on traditions of men.

Thanksgiving with family, is a national day of thanksgiving to God, I do enjoy it.
We have people who are defending the faith once for all delivered to us by the fellowship of the apostles.

And you couldn't be doing that if there were not others defending the pagan rituals of man like Christmas trees, Santa Clause and Flying reindeer.

1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
 
Thanksgiving is a tradition of men - actually it was started by a woman as I recall. I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or what. There are some people that make such absurd statements as a joke that it cannot be determined if the person was absurd, or pretending to be.

My odds are 50/50. Americans seem so jingoistic that I could see believing a national holiday is of God!!

Christmas is based on the BIRTH of our LORD and SAVIOR Jesus CHRIST. The whole nativity thing - found in scripture.


but is is still a man made tradition, it is not taught by any Man of God.
 
We have people who are defending the faith once for all delivered to us by the fellowship of the apostles.

And you couldn't be doing that if there were not others defending the pagan rituals of man like Christmas trees, Santa Clause and Flying reindeer.

Well, Christmas is not about what is done in your culture. I am guessing you may not have been outside your county, yes, county, but did you know that Christmas is celebrated in different ways? Seriously! It is wild! Some countries don't speak American!

Christmas trees are from Anglo-Saxon culture based on church plays regarding the Tree of Life. They were evergreens with apples ornaments. Saint Clause is Saint Nicholas, a real person who dropped off gifts to the poor and was celebrated on December 6th. ANGLO SAXONS!!!! meshed him into Christmas.
 
but is is still a man made tradition, it is not taught by any Man of God.

So is wiping my bottom with toilet paper.

Christmas is based on the bible. Two Gospels. Read them. I'll give you a hint, one starts with an L, one with a M which is not Mark.
 
So is wiping my bottom with toilet paper.

Christmas is based on the bible. Two Gospels. Read them. I'll give you a hint, one starts with an L, one with a M which is not Mark.


So they, Year by year, held a birthday cerebration after Christ Died and the Apostles told folks this is what Christians do?

Was the Birth of Christ announced joyfully you bet, the savior of the World is here. ONE time.
 
So they, Year by year, held a birthday cerebration after Christ Died and the Apostles told folks this is what Christians do?


So they, Year by year, went to an enclosed space, pooed on a toilet and wiped themselves with delicate paper after Christ Died and the Apostles told folks this is what Christians do?

That is the worst illogical argument Christians make. It is even worse when made about Christmas.

Was the Birth of Christ announced joyfully you bet, the savior of the World is here. ONE time.

Yes, and we remember it. It was sort of a bigger deal, bigger than the feasts of the Old Testament.
 
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Passover is in the bible not easter on sunday with sunrise services
Catholic's changed Passover from 1/14 which can fall on different days of a week to sunday and changed the name and the 40,000 said OK that fine with us.
 
So they, Year by year, went to an enclosed space, pooed on a toilet and wiped themselves with delicate paper after Christ Died and the Apostles told folks this is what Christians do?

That is the worst illogical argument Christians make. It is even worse when made about Christmas.



Yes, and we remember it. It was sort of a bigger deal, bigger than the feasts of the Old Testament.


the fact it was a one time event is illogical???? the fact it has not be taught by the apostles is illogical ??

by the way Christ was born on the First day of the Feast of Tabernacle
 
the fact it was a one time event is illogical???? the fact it has not be taught by the apostles is illogical ??

by the way Christ was born on the First day of the Feast of Tabernacle




“Long dead, but heavily credentialed academically J B Lightfoot is the author. He died as Chaplain in ordinary to Queen Victoria (British Israelism connection obv.). Considered one of the greatest biblical minds of his time. Never heard of him before, but...guy's writings all pertain to and based in Jewish writings & history.

"About John Lightfoot’s Bible Commentary.
A Commentary on the New Testament From the Talmud and Hebraica by John Lightfoot"
He wrote:
"VI. It is probable Christ was born at the feast of Tabernacles.
  • So it ariseth exactly to three-and-thirty years and a half, when he died at the feast of the Passover”

The entire passage is found here, about 1/3 of the way down:
https://www.christianity.com/bible/commentary.php?com=lgth&b=40&c=2

I also found this on line.
"Matthew Henry states:
"It is supposed by many that our blessed Saviour was born much about the time of the Feast of Tabernacles;
He left his mansions of light above to tabernacle among us (John 1:14), and he dwelt in booths.

The Bible does not specifically say the date of Jesus' birth. We know it was not during the winter months because the sheep were in the pasture (Luke 2:8).

A study of the time of the conception of John the Baptist reveals he was conceived about Sivan 30, the eleventh week.

When Zechariah was ministering in the temple, he received an announcement from God of a coming son. The eighth course of Abia, when Zechariah was ministering, was the week of Sivan 12 to 18 (Killian n.d.).

Adding forty weeks for a normal pregnancy reveals that John the Baptist was born on or about Passover (Nisan 14).

We know six months after John's conception, Mary conceived Jesus (Luke 1:26-33). Therefore, Jesus would have been conceived six months later in the month of Kislev. Kislev 25 is Hanukkah. Was the “light of the world” conceived on the festival of lights?

Starting at Hanukkah, which begins on Kislev 25 and continues for eight days, and counting through the nine months of Mary’s pregnancy, one arrives at the approximate time of the birth of Jesus at the Festival of Tabernacles (the early fall of the year).

During the Feast of Tabernacles, God required all male Jews to come to Jerusalem.

Joseph and Mary were unable to find a room at the inn because of the influx of so many pilgrims.

They may have been given shelter in a Sukkah, which is built during a seven-day period each year accompanying the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles.
The fields would have been dotted with Sukkoths during this harvest time to temporary shelter animals.

The Hebrew word “stable” is called a Sukkoth (Gen. 33:17).

"And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn (Luke 2:7)."

Joseph and Mary took the child and flew to Egypt and remained there until they were told by God that Herod was dead.
Joseph and Mary brought the baby Jesus into Jerusalem forty days from His birth for Mary's purification and the child's dedication (according to Torah this had to be done within forty days of the birth of a male child–not doing so is considered a sin).


This indicates that Herod died within the same forty days, because as long as Herod was alive, they could not appear at the Temple. (According to Josephus’ calculations, Herod's death occurred during the Autumn in the fourth year before the Common Era 4 b.c.e.).


End of Quote:

Concerning the date of birth: From 1/14 until 7/15 is exactly 6 months, going forwards or backwards, thus being born on 7/15 and dying on 1/14 proves Christ died at exactly 33 ½ years of age – to the day
 
Well, Christmas is not about what is done in your culture. I am guessing you may not have been outside your county, yes, county, but did you know that Christmas is celebrated in different ways?
I have been to 17 of these cities

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jEUJzptJ810

and 49 out of 50 US states.

You have been on this forum for three days and you have behaved a fool to everyone you interact with.
 
Most ministers know Christ was not born on December 25, as do most Christians.

Most ministers know “Christmas” came from paganism. As do most Christians.

And yet it is the major event of the year for the 40,000 kinds of Christianity.

What does Santa Claus and Christmas trees have to do with the birth of our Savior?

And of course, let’s not leave out Rudolf the red noses reindeer.

If Jesus Christ did not observe or teach it, nor Christ’s 13 Apostles and is not in the New Testament.

Why do you?
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I do not celebrate this day
 
Passover is in the bible not easter

The world does not revolve around English and ''Merica.

"Easter" is a term in English for what many languages refer to as Pascha or Passover.

on sunday with sunrise services
Catholic's changed Passover from 1/14 which can fall on different days of a week to sunday and changed the name and the 40,000 said OK that fine with us.

I have no idea what 1/14 means. January 14? You do know Passover was/is not based on a Lunar Calendar, right?
What is called Easter was adapted for a solar calendar to coincide with a lunar calendar.