Number one rule of interpreting scripture. Don't take a single scripture that we're unsure of, and knock down a mountain of scripture we are sure of.
And that's where I'm at with Rom.10:17.
Facts about Rom.10:17.
A) this is the scripture that most called out ones go to support their understanding that "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Ultimately, propping up the mistranslated word "believe."
Well that sounds great, unless your one of those people who have never been exposed to Christ. And the problem with that is if that's true, that handcuffs the Father in who He calls out.
Fact 2)
B) this word "hearing" is "akoe" in the Greek. In the Strongs it's defined like you'd expect, hearing 10x, ears 4x, fame 3x, rumor 3x, report 2x, preached 1x. But when you look at this in context to Rom.10:17 , it says, " the receiving of a message. " it goes on to say, "Rom.10:17, something more than the mere sense of "hearing " , and interaction with the word and a decision is always made. [ COMPARE TO A COURTROOM HEARING. ]
So, in that context of a "courtroom hearing", certain questions need to be asked.
1) who is the judge?
2) and who or what is on trial?
In Rom.10:17 are we sitting in judgment of God and His word in the most common understanding of it? Or, should we be looking at it in a context of Jesus being on the judges seat?
I'm presenting this possible understanding that one vowel may have been left out and changed the whole meaning of Rom.10:17.
Here's the text with "us" on the judgment seat, "so then faith (comes or is) by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." ( the words "comes and is" were added by the translators.)
Here's the text with Jesus on the Judgement seat and with the one vowel added to bring out the context of a courtroom hearing.
"So then faith is by "A" hearing, "A" hearing by the word of God." (Jesus)
1) This puts Jesus on the Judgement seat where He belongs.
2) this changes what' was previously understood as God and His word being on trial, to what should be on trial, our faith! Our personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender is what the hearing is for.
3) In this context, the Father can call out anyone anywhere, like it should be.
Rom. 10:17 never sat well with me due to the fact that through most of history, mankind didn't have access to the truth in Gods word. Heck, we're still fighting amongst ourselves today about what's truth.
I'm hoping not for opposition to this, but an in depth look to persuade me one way or the other.
Jay
And that's where I'm at with Rom.10:17.
Facts about Rom.10:17.
A) this is the scripture that most called out ones go to support their understanding that "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Ultimately, propping up the mistranslated word "believe."
Well that sounds great, unless your one of those people who have never been exposed to Christ. And the problem with that is if that's true, that handcuffs the Father in who He calls out.
Fact 2)
B) this word "hearing" is "akoe" in the Greek. In the Strongs it's defined like you'd expect, hearing 10x, ears 4x, fame 3x, rumor 3x, report 2x, preached 1x. But when you look at this in context to Rom.10:17 , it says, " the receiving of a message. " it goes on to say, "Rom.10:17, something more than the mere sense of "hearing " , and interaction with the word and a decision is always made. [ COMPARE TO A COURTROOM HEARING. ]
So, in that context of a "courtroom hearing", certain questions need to be asked.
1) who is the judge?
2) and who or what is on trial?
In Rom.10:17 are we sitting in judgment of God and His word in the most common understanding of it? Or, should we be looking at it in a context of Jesus being on the judges seat?
I'm presenting this possible understanding that one vowel may have been left out and changed the whole meaning of Rom.10:17.
Here's the text with "us" on the judgment seat, "so then faith (comes or is) by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." ( the words "comes and is" were added by the translators.)
Here's the text with Jesus on the Judgement seat and with the one vowel added to bring out the context of a courtroom hearing.
"So then faith is by "A" hearing, "A" hearing by the word of God." (Jesus)
1) This puts Jesus on the Judgement seat where He belongs.
2) this changes what' was previously understood as God and His word being on trial, to what should be on trial, our faith! Our personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender is what the hearing is for.
3) In this context, the Father can call out anyone anywhere, like it should be.
Rom. 10:17 never sat well with me due to the fact that through most of history, mankind didn't have access to the truth in Gods word. Heck, we're still fighting amongst ourselves today about what's truth.
I'm hoping not for opposition to this, but an in depth look to persuade me one way or the other.
Jay
