Israel.

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You can not be more hostile that telling people that they do not exist.

There has never been an independent Palestinian nation state with its own elected government. "Palestine" was primarily a geographic term for the region, used by Romans (Syria Palaestina) and later by the British. Proof was already shown about this, historical proof, comments made by Arab officials saying they weren't Palestinians. Even they know it's fabricated.

The strange thing about Christian Zionists is that they are the least interested of all people to listen to the testimonies of old Palestinians, while they are the most willing of all people to share their mistaken beliefs about the history, and tell us what ancient tribe people should be categorized into.

No such thing as a Palestinian nation or people with a separate identity. There's no need to listen to anyone, we know the history, we know the facts.

To me this indicates that Religion can be a very dangerous and stupefying thing.

Yes it can be. The Arabs were offered a two state solution when Israel became a nation again. They refused it and every single peace offer since. They don't want peace and they don't want a two state solution. They want Jews pushed into the ocean, all you have to do is read their charter.

I do not blame Jesus for this

I'm sure that's a load off His shoulders.

I do not think that the world hates modern Israel without a cause, I think that it has committed a lot of evil.

Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and you all can't even allow them to have that as a place to live and the right to defend themselves. Where do you propose they go?? They have no right to a homeland or a capital? They can't defend their people from attacks like Oct 7? That's ridiculous.

People without Christ still have the law of God written on their hearts too, and Christians that support evil things in the name of a religious ideal do great damage to the testimony of Christ.

Well that's good cause no one here supports evil.

Many of the people who best understand this have also been citizens of modern Israel at some time in their lives.

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You don't have to live in America to understand the Civil War. All you have to do is read history.

 

[HeIsHere]

We have said Israel hasn't committed genocide. Facts prove that.

Oh so now you have expertise in international law and complex legal standards.

 

[HeIsHere]

I won't waste my time watching your videos if you won't even post how she lied, or what she said. It would only take a sentence, but given you didn't take the opportunity and you've got plenty of time to post other low-detail content, I think it's a safe bet the lie doesn't exist.

Straw man. No one accused Erika Kirk of murder (that I saw). She was demonstrated to have lied, which destroys the claims that Candace Owens was lying about the matter in dispute. Very pertinent to a discussion on "Charlie Kirk - what next?" And then the thread gets shut down. Perhaps it was for the reason you stated, but that's not what the moderator comment on the thread stated, and the fact that Erika Kirk lied is not a conspiracy theory.

Read my statement. I indicated I wasn't sure if this was a claim you had made (that Candace was lying about Charlie Kirk messaging he thought "they" were going to kill him), but others certainly had made this claim, and used it as evidence that Candace Owens was lying. Well, the facts reveal that Candace was in fact speaking the truth, and Erika lied. Which casts further doubt on the claims of you and others that Candace is lying on the other topics, which are still yet to be determined.

Your posts creating straw man arguments and creating false accusations remind me why I had you on ignore before, so if you respond to the above with a less-than-rational response, that's where I'll be putting you again.

Some people think if they repeat things over an over they become facts, as well, they way over estimate their skills and their knowledge especially about history and Geo-politics.

The truth about E. K., her background, her shady past, her lies, is all on public record.

Certain people who are fully indoctrinated can never be reasoned with, they do not even understand what facts are, what truth is, and the different types of falsehoods.

But the glaring problem is the lack of critical analysis.

Many do see (like you) and that is very important because there are others who are not indoctrinated who are reachable, if people want delusion they can answer to God since ultimately people who choose delusion have chosen lies.

Another who does good investigative work is James Li

This is worth remembering.... "truth tellers tell, liars convince."

 

[HeIsHere]

Having known a whole generation of old Palestinians who remember the events before 1948 puts me in a position where I see your mindset in a different light.

Exactly, we have many first hand accounts and records.

 

[HeIsHere]

So, in your version of Christ, there are Jews and Gentiles. Got it.

Do you see the issue?

No issues if you can maintain a state of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Beekeeper]

I've said what I've said based on historical facts. I have nothing more to add.

And what you said is outstandingly stupid and reveals your depravity.
During an ongoing massacre against a group of people you declare that they don't exist.
The reason?
Well they do not have a localized nation state.
Not exactly logical is it?

 

[Beekeeper]

You don't have to live in America to understand the Civil War. All you have to do is read history.

I do not understand the American civil war, and very few Americans do either.
If all I could do was to parrot something that some "historian" said without sources or proof I would shut up about it.
If I had already heard the witness testimony of many who were present there and involved, I would have something to say.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I do not understand the American civil war, and very few Americans do either.

Read history and you will.

If all I could do was to parrot something that some "historian" said without sources or proof I would shut up about it.

Well, you haven't so far but hope springs eternal.

If I had already heard the witness testimony of many who were present there and involved, I would have something to say.

Depends on the witness. Two people can see the same event differently.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

And what you said is outstandingly stupid and reveals your depravity.

For the rest of the world that's called fact. We're sorry that disturbs you so much, but you'll get over it.

During an ongoing massacre against a group of people you declare that they don't exist.

Stop playing head games. No one said the people don't exist, they don't exist under that name. They are Arabs and other people/ places.

The reason?

The reason is they were politically made up to make the world feel sorry for their plight against the Jews. Like I said, 1% of the land in the ME and you all can't even allow them that. That's depravity.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Oh so now you have expertise in international law and complex legal standards.

You don't need to be an expert, which you aren't either. Genocide is done with intent. If you intend to kill someone you don't call them and tell them you're coming. A two year old can understand that.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

No issues if you can maintain a state of cognitive dissonance.

No issues if you read the Word and believe what it's saying.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Jesus made clear his brethren are those who do the will of God. What do you think his response will be towards those who claim his name, but engage in idolatry?

They, more than likely, are his brethren also.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Jesus made clear his brethren are those who do the will of God. What do you think his response will be towards those who claim his name, but engage in idolatry?

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Whatever.

Sure, God is not willing that any should perish. Not all mankind is willing to be saved. I don't know what you mean by "all flesh is now dead to God after Son's done work". The whole human race is born dead in trespass and sin, and that before the Son's finished work.

 

[Gideon300]

And what you said is outstandingly stupid and reveals your depravity.
During an ongoing massacre against a group of people you declare that they don't exist.
The reason?
Well they do not have a localized nation state.
Not exactly logical is it?

You telling me about logic? Palestinians do not exist. I can call myself a goldfish; it does not make me one. So called "Palestinians" have a perfectly good name. They are Arabs.

You will answer to God for your lies and slander of Israel and the Jews. I hope you wake up to yourself before it comes to that.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

You telling me about logic? Palestinians do not exist. I can call myself a goldfish; it does not make me one. So called "Palestinians" have a perfectly good name. They are Arabs.

You will answer to God for your lies and slander of Israel and the Jews. I hope you wake up to yourself before it comes to that.

I don't think they believe God will make them face the consequences of their unbelief.

 

[Gideon300]

True, because they are deceived. The worst part is that they are unteachable. Truth just bounces off them.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I don't think they believe God will make them face the consequences of their unbelief.

What a dark cloud you live under. I'm 100% convinced that you do not realize the consequences you are going to face for putting a stumbling block in front of God's children by distracting them from the purity of the gospel.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

True, because they are deceived. The worst part is that they are unteachable. Truth just bounces off them.

I agree. It is scary how they are piling up more and more judgement on themselves with every post they make.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I agree. It is scary how they are piling up more and more judgement on themselves with every post they make.

There is no judgment or condemnation in Christ. Not believing what you believe is not sin. You're proclaiming a false gospel