Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Jordon]

They freely choose to do that.....
And, quite willfully I might add.

incorrect you only think that.

Free will lives in the flesh

John 1 no man has ever saved himself by the will of the flesh, or by any will of there earthly fathers flesh

The word became flesh came to man and made many believe,

Because he found it irresistible to rescue

 

[Jordon]

https://soundcloud.com/magenta-starwalker%2Fthank-you-jesus

I hear ya Sis

But the free willers will not

I believe they've gone deaf

 

[Magenta]

I hear ya Sis

But the free willers will not

I believe they've gone deaf

They be like...

 

[Genez]

you need to pay attention, Free will for man has a law of it's own, lives in the flesh, is born from a sin nature, Disobeys Gods word, and has nature that needs rescuing, unable to rescues itself. And in bondage. Makes crazy choices makes things up, follows man, worships the devil, sells it's seif to sin, Commits evil .

And Incapable of obeying God without his assistance,

When the Holy Spirit controls the flesh you might be surprised to see what the will of your soul desires.

We are not to walk after the flesh. Free will will want to?
To not walk after the flesh, requires that we must "will" not to, and to learn as much truth needed as to stabilize ourselves as we continue to mature in Christ.

 

[Genez]

I hear ya Sis

But the free willers will not

I believe they've gone deaf

Taunting by means of false accusation?
That's the flesh at work in you....

 

[Jordon]

When the Holy Spirit controls the flesh you might be surprised to see what the will of your soul desires.

We are not to walk after the flesh. Free will will want to?
To not walk after the flesh, requires that we must "will" not to, and to learn as much truth needed as to stabilize ourselves as we continue to mature in Christ.

This little monkey says your making up stories again

when the fruits of holy spirit dwell in the soul, the will of the flesh is separated from the soul, before that happens the soul is one with the flesh,

And I'm not going to cite Scripture again to show you what I've already shown you. To show you again

Anyhoo your next jive will be, sin is not evil it's the flesh that sins, not the soul, bla bla bla my bad teacher

 

[Jordon]

Taunting by means of false accusation?
That's the flesh at work in you....

nope the will of man does not obey God

 

[Genez]

This little monkey says your making up stories again

when the fruits of holy spirit dwell in the soul, the will of the flesh is separated from the soul, before that happens the soul is one with the flesh,

And I'm not going to cite Scripture again to show you what I've already shown you. To show you again

Anyhoo your next jive will be, sin is not evil it's the flesh that sins, not the soul, bla bla bla my bad teacher

Did you make a bet that you will get me to put you on Ignore?

 

[Magenta]

nope the will of man does not obey God

Romans 8 v 6-7 The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.

 

[Jordon]

Romans 8 v 6-7 The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.

There it is right there Mr @Genez, the soul and flesh are one before God makes them a new heart with his irresistible grace

 

[Jordon]

Did you make a bet that you will get me to put you on Ignore?

I didn't no, as i stopped taking your concerns on board weeks ago

 

[Magenta]

The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8 v 6-8 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 2 v 13-14

 

[Magenta]

Romans 8 v 5-9 Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

 

[Magenta]

Colossians 2 v 13, John 5 v 21 When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.

 

[Magenta]

I know that nothing good lives in my flesh... For the flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Each of us has become like something unclean, and our iniquities carry us away like the wind. Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one. No one is good except God alone. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. “What is impossible with man is possible with God.” from: Romans 7 v 18, Galatians 5 v 17, Isaiah 64 v 6, Job 14 v 4, Mark 10 v 18, Matthew 7 v 18, Luke 18 v 27

 

[Magenta]

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom (2 Cor ch 3 v 17). If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ (Rom 8 v 9b). The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him (from John 14 v 17). Those not in Christ are not free (see Heb 2 v 15). Praise God if He has rescued you from the dominion of darkness! (see Col 1 v 13)

 

[Magenta]

Colossians 1 verse 13 ~ He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son.

 

[Jordon]

Colossians 1 verse 13 ~ He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son.

lots of love magenta

Thanks

 

[Magenta]

lots of love magenta

Thanks

I am going to make more Scripture videos...

I was thinking of you and all your posts and patience you show to some here, when I was working on the "Thank You, Jesus" one...

I am still listening to it... so thank you!!! And, you are welcome .

 

[sawdust]

Didn't you just say people take no consideration ?

Well ok can Gods grace make somebody else believe then ?


Or should we only take your testimony into consideration ?

Which is you came to believe by yourself reading the word

Grace is not making people believe, it is restraining the sin nature so you are free to accept or reject His truth. His grace does the same thing after salvation. You are not made to believe the truth, you must believe of your own free will. We would all be thinking exactly the same thing if God is making us believe. Why you can't see that I don't know unless you think we who disagree with you are not saved. That could be the only reason I can think of as to why you could explain disagreements among Christians.

How about the scriptures? God requires people to believe in Him for salvation. If God is doing what He asks us to do, why is He asking us to do it?

John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

Do it or don't do it, I don't much care anymore what you think.

I came to believe by the grace and truth of God being presented to me. No-one is making me believe, not even God. I freely believe the Lord Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the world, that He died and rose on the third day. The Lord presented His evidence to me in much the same way He did when He walked this Earth and I believed the evidence.