Charlie Kirk - so what now ?
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Ben Shapiro CRASHES OUT on Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at AMFEST! Erika Kirk JABS at Candace!
I disagree that the things Candace is saying are "baseless". She took issue with the "surgeon" saying that Charlie' Kirks neck was like the man of Steel and sure enough it turns out that was a lie, the surgeon never said it, rather it was a fabricated lie by the PR guy for TPUSA.
She took issue with many things that Harpool said about the security and sure enough TPUSA has parted ways with him and now there is an eyewitness placing him at a military base a few days before the assassination, potentially planning for some major military op. I see no reason why we shouldn't be asking about why he was there and who he met with.
Also today we learn that the rifle they found in the woods supposedly left by Tyler Robinson was planted by the police. These are stunning revelations being made and the only person whose complaints are baseless are those of Ben Shapiro.
But what is truly evil and irresponsible is Ben Shapiro saying that these questions should not be asked of TPUSA in "a time of mourning". That is the most idiotic thing I have heard. When do you think the investigation should ask the questions? After some patsy has already been convicted of the crime and everyone is saying that story is over?
I do agree with one thing, anyone who allows Ben Shapiro to bully them into submission on this issue is a coward. This video causes me to lose all respect for him and see him as nothing but a shill for some interests that for whatever reason want to shut down the investigation that Candace is doing.
Wow, we have had 1,000 new visitors to this thread since the last time I pointed this out and it is all due to all the engagement, that is what drives the algorithm which is sending this thread out to the world.! Even if you don't have anything to say there is a little thumbs up emoji at the bottom right and a variety of different emojis you can click. By simply clicking any of those emojis you are giving this thread a thumbs up to the algorithm, and that engagement is what is really helping to push out the truth in this thread to thousands (at this point 45k+). This is important, if no one sees these posts implicating a frame job by the deep state and a coverup of a military operation in this assassination then they can get away with passing off some patsy as the killer. Therefore, thank you to everyone who has engaged in this thread, your contribution has been very helpful at sending out the truth.
I DESPISE all the conservative back biting. The left is so glaringly evil that we spend any time deviating on exposing them is shameful.
Having said that, and trying to not fuel this stuff, it's become very difficult to ignore. One of my foundational beliefs is to listen to BOTH sides of an argument to make an INFORMED decision on anything.
Flat earthers, gave them a hearing
Fake moon landing, gave the info a hearing.
9/11 inside job, listened to the evidence.
And so on...
From when I first became aware of Candace Owens a half dozen or so years ago I like what she apparently said and stood for.
The past couple of years of things she's said and done has given me pause to look a little deeper into her.
The VERY clear, and in my view vicious attacks on Israel and Jews.
The whole Macron's wife is a man stuff.
And of course the massive division she is causing with the Charlie Kirk murder.
But STILL, maybe some of these things have merit. Maybe we'll all just get past them and unite again against the satanic left.
But there appears to be no relenting on all this stuff from her.
So deeper dive it is!
Came across this article. Some of it appears to lean left, but you cannot escape the thrust of the piece.
I'll post some excerpts, and the a link to the whole article in the next post.
Having said that, and trying to not fuel this stuff, it's become very difficult to ignore. One of my foundational beliefs is to listen to BOTH sides of an argument to make an INFORMED decision on anything.
Flat earthers, gave them a hearing
Fake moon landing, gave the info a hearing.
9/11 inside job, listened to the evidence.
And so on...
From when I first became aware of Candace Owens a half dozen or so years ago I like what she apparently said and stood for.
The past couple of years of things she's said and done has given me pause to look a little deeper into her.
The VERY clear, and in my view vicious attacks on Israel and Jews.
The whole Macron's wife is a man stuff.
And of course the massive division she is causing with the Charlie Kirk murder.
But STILL, maybe some of these things have merit. Maybe we'll all just get past them and unite again against the satanic left.
But there appears to be no relenting on all this stuff from her.
So deeper dive it is!
Came across this article. Some of it appears to lean left, but you cannot escape the thrust of the piece.
I'll post some excerpts, and the a link to the whole article in the next post.
On that blog, Candace Owens wrote — and I quote — about the “bat-sh*t-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party.”
She actually wrote those words. She published them. Under her own name.
But there’s more. She also wrote: “The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY.”
In 2016, Degree180 (Owens Blog) published an article mocking Donald Trump’s anatomy. His penis size, to be specific. The article called Trump’s actions “racist, bigoted and downright offensive.”
SOCIAL AUTOPSY: THE SMOKING GUN
On April 13, 2016, Candace Owens launched a Kickstarter campaign for something called SocialAutopsy.com. The goal was to raise $75,000 to build a database where people could submit screenshots of “offensive posts” to publicly expose internet bullies.
Here’s how she described it in her own words from the Kickstarter pitch: “We attach [people’s] words to their places of employment, and anybody in the entire world can search for them. What we are doing is figuratively lifting the masks up so nobody can hide behind, you know, Twitter handles or privatized profiles.”
Think about that.
After Social Autopsy failed, Candace Owens claimed she “became a conservative overnight.” Her own explanation? She said: “I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were actually the trolls… Social Autopsy is why I’m conservative.”
One failed Kickstarter. That’s what we’re told turned her from “Republicans should die peacefully in their sleep” to “Trump is the savior of Western civilization.”
And this pattern — this “scorn me and I’ll destroy you” pattern — would repeat itself over and over again:
2016: Liberals reject Social Autopsy → She burns the left and becomes “conservative.”
2018: Charlie finds Erika → She leaves TPUSA and finds George.
2024: Daily Wire rejects her → She burns them down.
2025: Trump doesn’t do what she wants on Israel → She burns him down.
2025: TPUSA doesn’t invite her to the memorial → She burns Erika and TPUSA down.
DAVID HOROWITZ: THE JEWISH MAN WHO MADE HER
Now sit up straight. Because what I’m about to tell you is the key to understanding everything that’s happened since.
Before Candace Owens was anybody — before she had any platform, any connections, any fame — she got an email. An email from David Horowitz, inviting her to speak at one of his Freedom Center events.
Here’s how Candace herself described it: “I started my career, my political career, on YouTube making just funny, satirical videos, and I got an email from David Horowitz inviting me to this conference, and let me just tell you what a big deal it was for me. I had no connections whatsoever.”
Candace joined the Daily Wire in 2021. By 2024, she was gone.
Along the way, she defended Kanye West through his Hitler praise. She took Hamas’s side after October 7, 2023. She liked a tweet promoting medieval blood libel against Jews.
In March 2024, she was fired.
Then came the full unmasking.
“Jews are not demonic.” (Basically, less than human)
“Netanyahu is a demon.”
Let’s look at the résumé:
Three companies started — two failed immediately, one (Social Autopsy) was shut down by Kickstarter in twenty-four hours.
TPUSA (2017-2019) — Couldn’t last two years with her “best friend” Charlie Kirk.
Prager U — Asked to leave.
Daily Wire — “Hated” Ben Shapiro by her own admission. Gone within months of real conflict.
Stephen Crowder — Tried to destroy him on her way out.
Every bridge. Burned.
Every relationship. Ended.
Every organization. Left in flames.
That’s not conviction. That’s a pattern.
THE QURAN: THE FINAL BETRAYAL
Nothing prepared me for this.
Candace Owens — the woman who rode conservative Christianity to fame — is now reading the Quran to her audience.
The book that calls America “the Great Satan.”
The book that calls Christians “infidels.”
The foundational text for every terrorist organization that has attacked American soil.
She’s not studying it academically. She’s promoting it. To conservatives. To Christians.
The mask isn’t slipping anymore. The mask is off.
THE COMPLETE STORY OF CANDACE OWENS: A PATTERN EXPOSED
She actually wrote those words. She published them. Under her own name.
But there’s more. She also wrote: “The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY.”
In 2016, Degree180 (Owens Blog) published an article mocking Donald Trump’s anatomy. His penis size, to be specific. The article called Trump’s actions “racist, bigoted and downright offensive.”
SOCIAL AUTOPSY: THE SMOKING GUN
On April 13, 2016, Candace Owens launched a Kickstarter campaign for something called SocialAutopsy.com. The goal was to raise $75,000 to build a database where people could submit screenshots of “offensive posts” to publicly expose internet bullies.
Here’s how she described it in her own words from the Kickstarter pitch: “We attach [people’s] words to their places of employment, and anybody in the entire world can search for them. What we are doing is figuratively lifting the masks up so nobody can hide behind, you know, Twitter handles or privatized profiles.”
Think about that.
After Social Autopsy failed, Candace Owens claimed she “became a conservative overnight.” Her own explanation? She said: “I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were actually the trolls… Social Autopsy is why I’m conservative.”
One failed Kickstarter. That’s what we’re told turned her from “Republicans should die peacefully in their sleep” to “Trump is the savior of Western civilization.”
And this pattern — this “scorn me and I’ll destroy you” pattern — would repeat itself over and over again:
2016: Liberals reject Social Autopsy → She burns the left and becomes “conservative.”
2018: Charlie finds Erika → She leaves TPUSA and finds George.
2024: Daily Wire rejects her → She burns them down.
2025: Trump doesn’t do what she wants on Israel → She burns him down.
2025: TPUSA doesn’t invite her to the memorial → She burns Erika and TPUSA down.
DAVID HOROWITZ: THE JEWISH MAN WHO MADE HER
Now sit up straight. Because what I’m about to tell you is the key to understanding everything that’s happened since.
Before Candace Owens was anybody — before she had any platform, any connections, any fame — she got an email. An email from David Horowitz, inviting her to speak at one of his Freedom Center events.
Here’s how Candace herself described it: “I started my career, my political career, on YouTube making just funny, satirical videos, and I got an email from David Horowitz inviting me to this conference, and let me just tell you what a big deal it was for me. I had no connections whatsoever.”
Candace joined the Daily Wire in 2021. By 2024, she was gone.
Along the way, she defended Kanye West through his Hitler praise. She took Hamas’s side after October 7, 2023. She liked a tweet promoting medieval blood libel against Jews.
In March 2024, she was fired.
Then came the full unmasking.
“Jews are not demonic.” (Basically, less than human)
“Netanyahu is a demon.”
Let’s look at the résumé:
Three companies started — two failed immediately, one (Social Autopsy) was shut down by Kickstarter in twenty-four hours.
TPUSA (2017-2019) — Couldn’t last two years with her “best friend” Charlie Kirk.
Prager U — Asked to leave.
Daily Wire — “Hated” Ben Shapiro by her own admission. Gone within months of real conflict.
Stephen Crowder — Tried to destroy him on her way out.
Every bridge. Burned.
Every relationship. Ended.
Every organization. Left in flames.
That’s not conviction. That’s a pattern.
THE QURAN: THE FINAL BETRAYAL
Nothing prepared me for this.
Candace Owens — the woman who rode conservative Christianity to fame — is now reading the Quran to her audience.
The book that calls America “the Great Satan.”
The book that calls Christians “infidels.”
The foundational text for every terrorist organization that has attacked American soil.
She’s not studying it academically. She’s promoting it. To conservatives. To Christians.
The mask isn’t slipping anymore. The mask is off.
THE COMPLETE STORY OF CANDACE OWENS: A PATTERN EXPOSED
I get that people don't like Candace Owens and have no issue with someone not wanting to listen to her show. I have posted links to at least six different channels. Now it cannot be denied that most of the investigations have originated from Candace, and others are simply extrapolating from her. That is also a fair observation which to some would be a complaint.
I also get that anyone who is a very high rated podcaster like Candace or Tucker will have their very good sources and so the show can be used by these sources to get their story out. In other words they have their own agenda which may or may not be in line with your agenda.
But here are the things that I have observed in this thread.
1. I am the one accused over and over again of not having any evidence and yet I am the one who is posting evidence while the whiners and complainers have not posted anything.
2. I don't simply post links for people to watch, I have heard directly that some of the chief whiners and complainers do not watch any of those links. I have also summarized the questions that have been raised. None of the whiners and complainers addresses those questions.
3. The things the whiners and complainers do say are prima facia absurd. For example, investigators should not be asking these questions of people at TPUSA while they are in mourning. That is the most idiotic thing anyone can say and is an excellent indication of the IQ of these whiners and complainers. A murder investigation needs to begin immediately after a murder. The key people of interest are the ones closest to the victim. Asking questions of the spouse and business associates is the proper protocol for a murder investigation.
4. In a nutshell the whiners and complainers are saying we should: shut up and let the government handle this investigation. Is that what "MAGA" did with the vaccine mandate? Is that what "MAGA" did with the question about election fraud? Of course not. So why on earth would a group of people known for not shutting up and trusting the government to do an investigation be torn apart by people who refuse to shut up and trust the government with the Charlie Kirk assassination investigation?
Oh the conspiracies! What shall we do? In a nutshell, people have complained that no matter what is posted in the so called news forum, you turn it into one of your personal video experiences with the result people either leave or join you in your search for the anti-Christ, or when Nibiru is going to smack into the planet or when Charles is going to fess up to being the anti-Christ. (all things you have invested in)
We basically would appreciate you moving your personal hobbies over to the conspiracy forum where they belong. Especially the one where you think the king of England is the anti-Christ.
I have seen enough of her videos now, to not be surprised by the above. She's not quite right in the head and she is a poster child for narcissism. I think she would shoot her husband in his sleep if she thought it would give her more attention.
Actually, we have found that evidence Candace speaks about all the time exists ONLY between her 2 ears. Sorry, you are not getting the attention you crave. Watch out for Egyptian planes buzzing your house.
I have been here quite a long time (years actually) and I am confident in saying that you are the most attention seeking, thread hogging individual I have seen here and that is saying alot.
And again, I fully comprehend why facebook kicked you off their platform. You must have acted in the same self gratifying way. You are fully aware of the gaslighting you do and enjoy any attention whether negative or positive.
FWIW, I have only a few main problems with your content. You can obviously post and think whatever you choose to. One issue we've been through before and I'm not repeating here. Another issue I can identify in your above post - you post some of the most offbeat sources. Many of the videos you post have the most bizarre, doctored photographs of supposed catastrophes with mainstream media names imbedded as if they're from such media, and then they're actually from some obscure presenter who is just not worth watching. Couple this with your videos of "prophets" and such, and it becomes the boy who cried wolf and the chicken little sky is falling. You're so prolific as to be your own worst enemy.
Saw this and though it's tongue and cheek I still think it makes a couple points. The main point being people can point the flashlight back on you.
Did Candace Owens pay to have Charlie Kirk ass*ss*nated?
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
Do you think Candace Owens is a disgruntled former employee of Turning Point USA?
How come Candace Owens hasn't released her banking information to show that she didn't pay Tyler Robinson or his family to take out Charlie Kirk?
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
Why is Candace Owens trying to pin it on somebody else so much? That's just weird, right?
How come there are multiple people telling us that Candace Owens actually hated Charlie Kirk?
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
How come after Erica Kirk said, "Hey, stop talking about my husband and his passing," why didn't Candace Owens just stop? Is she purposefully leveraging her so-called friend's death for profit?
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
Do you think that if Candace Owens suddenly stopped talking about it, she'd be discovered as the one who actually plotted the whole thing against Charlie Kirk?
I mean, what would you do if you were guilty of a horrendous crime? Would you just start trying to pin it on anyone and everyone else as a distraction? I know I would.
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
To me, it's weird that Candace Owens was actually really struggling to be in the spotlight... until Charlie Kirk was taken out, and now all of a sudden she's relevant again. Do you guys think she planned all of this to rejuvenate her ratings?
I'll even add a couple. Why did CO not become a Jew hater until she married her rich old school Catholic husband?!
Why did she suddenly decide Catholicism was "the way" to truth and Protestants are suddenly "stupid"?
Why was CO all fire behind Trump now she doesn't care if the party breaks up? I mean is there anything CO hasn't flipped on?
𝐈'𝐦 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐬𝐤𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬.
Well I can't argue with the basic points you are making.
1. I am not posting from main stream sources. That is true.
2. The term Prolific is a comparative term. Compared to many people I am more prolific, compared to others I am average.
3. As for the "chicken little the sky is falling" I was first accused of this in the thread on the Great depression that I started. It was right around July 2022 when I first recommended people to buy silver. Yesterday I was looking at a graph of silver that was "quarterly". It showed the price of silver at the end of each quarter, that is every three months. I was surprised. On that graph from July of 2022 silver has basically taken off. It is an exponential curve, but it went up from that point and never came back down. Silver is not more expensive to mine, we have had silver for thousands of years. Silver going up is not an indication of silver becoming more precious, it is an indication of the US dollar becoming less precious. I have told people this before, there is no point in sounding an alarm if alarm goes off with so little time to react that the people can not do anything in response. If you look at that graph of silver with the quarterly price points you will see I sounded the warning precisely at the best time for people to react and do something and with plenty of time for people to react.
4. I am not asking anyone to read this thread, that is up to you. But why would anyone have an issue with me or anyone else asking these questions and to be fair, some people like Tim Pool and Ben Shapiro are having a total hysterical hissy fit over these questions being asked. Why?
5. Also, why would someone like myself not trusting the official narrative, not initially, but when they told me things that were demonstrably false, and that have since been shown to be blatant lies, only then have I openly said I don't trust them. Why should I trust them if they are lying to me?
6. And why is it that those of us who are questioning this are being accused of "tearing MAGA apart" when it was MAGA that didn't trust the official narrative about election fraud and about the vaccine?
I am not the one who is attacking others with personal attacks. There are several posters on this thread who I ignore. They have not added anything other than insults and personal attacks.
Well, you people sure are working over time to pollute the jury pool with lies and deceptions in your efforts to try to get everyone to believe Tyler Robinson is an innocent fall guy who has been false accused.
Fake news! Pretty funny how slow people are to fall for this garbage.
This is just Candace Owen trying to milk this story for all the money she can make off of it.
Yes, all the evidence does add up to Tyler Robinson as being the lone assassin
Those claiming all these other theories have ZERO evidence to prove he was not the only shooter who did this deed because Charlie Kirk did not embrace sexual perversion.
I'd be surprised if Candace Owen and all her followers are not supporters of Tyler Robinson's favorite form of sexual perversion and they will soon be coming out as perverts themselves claiming to change sexes.
Candace Owen is sure going to be ugly with a beard!
Thank you for that fake and false laughing hilarious list of claims you cannot prove.
Now THAT is an interesting question.
She is sure showing an inordinate amount of attention on all this, so something is up with her.
I know catholics are known to be nutty, but she takes the cake.
She definitely has something to hide.
Well, he never did switch to being catholic so..
That's EXACTLY what is going on.
Candace wants to be Info Wars 2.0 and eventually TPUSA is going to drag her in to civil court and win big money!
YES, that's what this is all about.
And the really really slow people among us are falling for her shenanigans
She's tossed about by every wind of doctrine having been deceived by the old devil.
I think the the left has been exposed. If somebody hasn't figured it out by now, I don't see anything changing that. And besides, the christian-patriot-truthers called checkmate against them already
The electorate isn't going to settle for a republican party that merely stops things from getting worse or be won over by gimmicky little hand-out schemes. No amount of pointing out the Democrats' failures will make the Republicans a success.
Yes, one thing I completely agree with Candace on is "I don't care about the mid terms". Tim Poole seems to think that everyone needs to stop investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination because for some reason it could hurt the mid terms. I could care less, that is the worst reason I have ever heard to justify telling people to shut up and trust the government investigation.I think the the left has been exposed. If somebody hasn't figured it out by now, I don't see anything changing that. And besides, the christian-patriot-truthers called checkmate against them already
The electorate isn't going to settle for a republican party that merely stops things from getting worse or be won over by gimmicky little hand-out schemes. No amount of pointing out the Democrats' failures will make the Republicans a success.
Americans need to wake up, fast! Muslims have taken over Europe and they are bee-lining to America. Dems have already given in to communism and Muslims. I just saw another Muslim is running for office. Trump has prices in all areas going down. Forcing drug prices down. He's not giving handouts, he's giving the money saved back to the people, where it belongs. Handouts are what Dems do, take from the middle class and give to the "undocumented" criminals. With every underhanded thing the Dems have done, giving billions away to illegals, Somalis, and pet projects plus pushing every devilish thing they can think of Americans are damned fools to let them back into office and turn against Trump.
Excuse me but that is the dumbest comment I have ever seen on here, and I've been here a long time. It's in fact, utterly absurd to say that. And I don't see how she or you could justify it.
I could care less, that is the worst reason I have ever heard to justify telling people to shut up and trust the government investigation.[/QUOTE]
I have news for you, they aren't calling you as a witness. They aren't going to look at your videos. They sure aren't following CO squirrelly conspiracies. There are PROFESSIONAL people who are hired to do this work. Your "facts" and opinions and fussing is simply a waste of time. I don't know what CO will do once the trial is over and she has nothing to scream and scheme about. But Republicans better get off their round behinds and vote or we are in for a world of hurt. You think things aren't getting done fast enough now? Put the Dems in and let them start with impeachments and see what happens to the country. People, pull your head out and look around. Let the professionals do their job and stop being armchair sleuths. Let the players on the field win the game, they know what they are doing. They are professionals, you are not and neither is CO.
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