This pacifically illustrates God is everywhere at once
Psalms 139:7-12
But to give more understanding it means his devine nature is present everywhere at the same time, as in father son and holy spirit.
Loss of salvation???
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Psalms 139:7-12
But to give more understanding it means his devine nature is present everywhere at the same time, as in father son and holy spirit.
It was said “Tongue in cheek” for someone who seems confused how God could manifest Himself in various and multiple ways.
lol no worries fair play to you sipsey, I had a feeling you where
Assuming...what? Jesus could not possibly have been speaking about Gentiles, although Replacement Theology buffs routinely shove Gentiles into whatever nitch and cranny that fits their personal liking. Gentiles were dogs before salvation had come unto them after the middlle wall of partition was brought down. Scripture bears this out as a defense against the gross misapplications some apply to key verses isolated from a systematic study on the subject. There were many Jews in other nations of the world yet to hear His gospel.
MM
Jesus was simply stating what had been prophesied by Hosea and others. Peter later confirmed it was so by referring to this Hosea prophecy when he stated gentiles, who were not his people, are now his people. And Paul confirmed this to be true.
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Hosea 1:10
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1 Peter 2:9-10
Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he says also in Hosea, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the sons of the living God. Romans 9:24-26
Gentiles are no longer dogs because God has cleansed them, and out of two people has made one: one flock, one body, one nation, one people, one law, one gospel.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, do not call profane. Acts 10:15
Either we are by faith trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18; 6:29.40,47; 10:9; 11:25,26; 14:6; Acts 4:12; 10:43; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-26; 4:5-6; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 2 Corinthians 4:3,4; Galatians 2:16; 3:6,14,26; Ephesians 1:13; 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9; 2 Timothy 3:15; 1 John 5:4,13 etc..)
It does not get any narrower than that. All other ways lead down the wide gate and broad way.
Either we are by faith trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18; 6:29.40,47; 10:9; 11:25,26; 14:6; Acts 4:12; 10:43; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-26; 4:5-6; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 2 Corinthians 4:3,4; Galatians 2:16; 3:6,14,26; Ephesians 1:13; 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9; 2 Timothy 3:15; 1 John 5:4,13 etc..)
It does not get any narrower than that. All other ways lead down the wide gate and broad way.
If you think that someone who has 1% doubt is lost, you are delusional
Who said anything about 1% doubt? Either we believe that Jesus Christ is an ALL-sufficient Savior or else we believe that He is an IN-sufficient Savior. I personally believe that Jesus Christ is an ALL-sufficient Savior, 100%. I believe that Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. (Romans 3:24-26; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4) No supplements needed.
Matthew 22:2-10 — The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come [Israel]. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden [Israel], Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them [His disciples]. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city [Jerusalem]. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find [Jews and Gentiles], bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests [Jews and Gentiles].
This was and is an amazing prophecy in the form of a parable that even Satan did not grasp because the meaning was hidden in God since the foundation of the world up to the time of Paul's conversion and instruction by Christ. Satan was well aware of that middle wall of partition between Israel and Gentiles, thus with his having all Gentiles in his back pocket (so to speak), and so remained ignorant of salvation coming unto the Gentiles in the near future to the speaking of that prophecy after the coming down of that wall.
MM
This was and is an amazing prophecy in the form of a parable that even Satan did not grasp because the meaning was hidden in God since the foundation of the world up to the time of Paul's conversion and instruction by Christ. Satan was well aware of that middle wall of partition between Israel and Gentiles, thus with his having all Gentiles in his back pocket (so to speak), and so remained ignorant of salvation coming unto the Gentiles in the near future to the speaking of that prophecy after the coming down of that wall.
MM
You said it - "Either we are by faith trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost "
If we are not trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation then we are also trusting in SELF.
Striving against the works-based salvation doctrine gang, given that belief's powerful appeals to the flesh, it's an up-hill battle. Their false labels they subjectively apply against the doctrine of salvation to the uttermost, which they usually term as "Easy believism," fuels the fires of their falsehoods as their defense of the pathetically flesh-grounded claims for their "endurance" sealing their salvation more securely since the cross was allegedly insufficient in truly providing for the sealing of Holy Spirit as an earnest and empowerment of sanctification in each life truly rooted in genuine faith in Paul's gospel.
As pathetic as they are, we still love them in Christ and pray for their deliverance from the legalism that is the grounding for their lack of faith in the sufficiency Christ's blood provides to all people of faith. Their hatred of anything unmerited handed to the true men and women of faith I personally reject on the basis of an understanding about the legalistic remnants deeply rooted in our fallen state of sin. We ALL struggle with that element of our fallen nature. The difference is in the acceptance or the rejection of Paul's gospel and teachings regarding works.
MM
OK, how does that apply to this - ""Either we are by faith trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost " "
The Christian gnostics among us believe that the physical body is unable to do anything pleasing to God, so it becomes necessary for them to believe that God does everything by providing them a spiritual nature, which is what saves. Deviating from this ideal is falling back into our fallen animal nature away from salvation.
The Valentinian gnostics belived the same
'Animal men, again, are instructed in animal things; such men, namely, as are established by their works, and by a mere faith, while they have not perfect knowledge. We of the Church, [the Valentinian Christian gnostics] say, are these persons. Wherefore also they maintain that good works are necessary to us, for that otherwise it is impossible we should be saved. But as to themselves, they hold that they shall be entirely and undoubtedly saved, not by means of conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature. For, just as it is impossible that material substance should partake of salvation (since, indeed, they maintain that it is incapable of receiving it), so again it is impossible that spiritual substance (by which they mean themselves) should ever come under the power of corruption, whatever the sort of actions in which they indulged. For even as gold, when submersed in filth, loses not on that account its beauty, but retains its own native qualities, the filth having no power to injure the gold, so they affirm that they cannot in any measure suffer hurt, or lose their spiritual substance, whatever the physical actions in which they may be involved.'
Against Heresies book 1 chapter 6 paragraph 2
Being an “Israeli,” as you've chosen to make clear on occasions, are you aware that the “dogs” language was also applied to Israel itself (Isa 56:10–11)? Are you aware that Israel was said to be more corrupt than the nations - the Gentiles (Ez16:47–48)? When Jesus used the phrase in Matt 15:26 and Mark 7:27, do you see how He immediately turned it around, making faith the issue - as it always has been - and commending Gentile faith?
Systematic study indeed...
Continuing ad hominem, pejorative, and provoking language, straw men, false-binaries, etc., from a self-professed critical thinker - an endless loop of flawed reasoning and ignorance of it - while thinking it's love.
Prior to my conversion, I was born and raised in the Roman Catholic church and prior to my wife's conversion, she was born and raised in the RLDS church (which is similar to LDS) so we both know all about works-based salvation doctrine.