Do All Religions Lead To God?

[GWH]

Fascinating John 20:21-23

21 "Peace be with you", Jesus said to them again. "As the Father has sent me, so I send you." 22 After saying this, he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone's sins they are forgiven. If you retain anyone's sins, they are retained".

Now in the name of patience I can tolerate a lot of foolishness but when the words literally say what I've claim they say, you need to show me how what I said was "out of context". Be very specific because there Jesus is talking so I have to choose to listen to him or to you. I'll be eagerly awaiting your reply

Again, the key to understanding the meaning of John 20:21-23 lies in the previous two verses: “Again Jesus said, ‘Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.’ And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit.’” He sent them, as He is sending us, to bring the good news of the way to salvation and heaven to the whole world. Jesus was leaving the earth physically but promised God would be with them in the person of the Holy Spirit living in them.

As they proclaimed the gospel, they could honestly tell people who believed in that message that their sins were forgiven, and they could honestly tell people that did not believe in the message that their sins were not forgiven and that they stand condemned in God’s eyes. “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him” (John 3:36). Believers today have the very same mission given to us!

We are obligated to share the gospel message, the way to heaven, to others in the world, and we go about that mission with the Holy Spirit living inside us, guiding us as we share His truth. We are obligated to tell people the only way to be forgiven is through faith. Jesus said in John 8:24, “If you do not believe that I am [God], you will indeed die in your sins.” This is the very core of the gospel message and the very heart of what we are to explain to the world. It was Jesus’ last command to His followers before He physically left the earth—carry forward the message of hope and save as many as will believe in Him.

 

[Wansvic]

God gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Do you not know that? Please don't start with the context nonsense

Hope this will help you to understand why context is essential:
con·text definition:
https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...2ahUKEwjam7WiwsCRAxWgGVkFHestO2kQ3eEDegQIHxAN
The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

 

[Nedsk]

Hope this will help you to understand why context is essential:
con·text definition:
The circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.

The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

So you can't explain why verse 23 doesn't give the apostles the authority to forgive sins even though it literally says that? What proceeded that was Jesus telling then he will send them as God sent hein and then breathed the holy Spirit on them. What follows is Thomas doubting. Hmmmmm sounds like someone I just talked to

 

[rewriter]

If the Bible is true then no, not all religions lead to God. If the Bible isn’t true then anything is possible.

That would raise the question of, how do we know the Bible is true? And that question becomes a problem as one cannot point to the Bible for the answer because if the Bible is not true, it will not admit that but rather at least appear to claim to be true. And 2 Timothy 3:16 is not exactly clear in what Paul meant as he uses one word that he invented and another word that included more than just what Protestants refer to as the Bible, so how can we be certain what he meant?

 

[GWH]

That would raise the question of, how do we know the Bible is true? And that question becomes a problem as one cannot point to the Bible for the answer because if the Bible is not true, it will not admit that but rather at least appear to claim to be true. And 2 Timothy 3:16 is not exactly clear in what Paul meant as he uses one word that he invented and another word that included more than just what Protestants refer to as the Bible, so how can we be certain what he meant?

2Cor. 5:7

 

[Wansvic]

So you can't explain why verse 23 doesn't give the apostles the authority to forgive sins even though it literally says that? What proceeded that was Jesus telling then he will send them as God sent hein and then breathed the holy Spirit on them. What follows is Thomas doubting. Hmmmmm sounds like someone I just talked to

Scripture reveals sins are forgiven upon obedience to the command to be water baptized in the name of Jesus. (Acts 2:36-42, 22:16) Those who water baptize believers do play a part but ultimately it is God who brings about what He promised.

Peter's discussion with Jews in Acts 11 reveals water baptism was an essential element that granted life to the Gentiles. Peter understood to neglect to offer water baptism to the Gentiles was to withstand God's intention to remit their sin. Note: it was after hearing the Gentiles speak in tongues and knowing God had filled them with His Spirit that Peter commanded they submit to be water baptized.

"Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." Acts 11:17-18


The Gentiles believe in Jesus, receive the Holy Ghost, and submit to being water baptized in the name of the Lord for remission of their sin:


"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord." Acts 10:43-48

 

[mailmandan]

So incorrect it's not funny. Matt 28:19

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Wansvic]

So you can't explain why verse 23 doesn't give the apostles the authority to forgive sins even though it literally says that? What proceeded that was Jesus telling then he will send them as God sent hein and then breathed the holy Spirit on them. What follows is Thomas doubting. Hmmmmm sounds like someone I just talked to

See post 168 and 186

 

[rewriter]

2Cor. 5:7

Quoting the Bible to prove the Bible is true? So, something is true if it claims to be true? Sorry, that is circular logic. As I recall, the Bible claims that God's word is a person, not a book.

 

[GWH]

Quoting the Bible to prove the Bible is true? So, something is true if it claims to be true? Sorry, that is circular logic. As I recall, the Bible claims that God's word is a person, not a book.

Not reading, understanding and learning what was quoted is ignorance (the state of ignoring).

 

[Wansvic]

That would raise the question of, how do we know the Bible is true? And that question becomes a problem as one cannot point to the Bible for the answer because if the Bible is not true, it will not admit that but rather at least appear to claim to be true. And 2 Timothy 3:16 is not exactly clear in what Paul meant as he uses one word that he invented and another word that included more than just what Protestants refer to as the Bible, so how can we be certain what he meant?

Faith comes from hearing and hearing by the Word of God. But for those who still question the truth, there is additional evidence in the scientific facts foreshadowed in the Bible:

"Science means knowledge, and true science always agrees with the observable evidence. Scientific research continues to unfold the wonders and mysteries of our universe. Interestingly, there is one book that has anticipated many of these scientific facts. That book is the Bible."

Scientific facts foreshadowed in the Bible: https://scientistsforjesus.wordpres...cientific-facts-foreknowledge-from-the-bible/

Especially interesting is #93.

 

[Nedsk]

See post 168 and 186

I only looked at 186 and its irrelevant. The words of jesus are clear and straightforward. In context it's clear what Jesus is authorizing them to do.

 

[memberofthebride]

the estimate is there are over 40,000 christian churches,

Christ called those that follow Him "the little flock"

Ephesians 4

4[There is] one body,
and one Spirit,
even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord,
one faith,
one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

I read ONE not 40,000

Christ has also said --and few there be that find it.

40,000 is way to confusing for me, I pass

 

[Wansvic]

I only looked at 186 and its irrelevant. The words of jesus are clear and straightforward. In context it's clear what Jesus is authorizing them to do.

I disagree.

Truth isn't found in fragments but in the complete revelation of God. The sum of God's word reveals truth. (Psalm 119:160)

 

[Nedsk]

I disagree.

Truth isn't found in fragments but in the complete revelation of God. The sum of God's word reveals truth. (Psalm 119:160)

But you want to ignore what those fragments say. Jesus gave the apsotles the authority to forgive sins is right in front of your eyes. The authority to forgive sins is not the same as the power to forgive sins. Scripture tells of the apostles healing people but everyone knows they do that only on the authority of God. You can believe Jesus gave them the authority to heal but he can't give them the authority to forgive sins? In all gentleness please think.

 

[HigherGospel]

Do All Religions Lead To God?

No, all religions do NOT lead to the One and Only True Living God

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

This means praying to mary and to dead people is idolatry

 

[HigherGospel]

But you want to ignore what those fragments say. Jesus gave the apsotles the authority to forgive sins is right in front of your eyes. The authority to forgive sins is not the same as the power to forgive sins. Scripture tells of the apostles healing people but everyone knows they do that only on the authority of God. You can believe Jesus gave them the authority to heal but he can't give them the authority to forgive sins? In all gentleness please think.

You think one can get to Heaven by ignoring the Lord and simply get an "apostle" to wipe their sins away and they're in?

 

[Nedsk]

You think one can get to Heaven by ignoring the Lord and simply get an "apostle" to wipe their sins away and they're in?

Goodness gracious John 20:21-23. Save us the context silliness. Jesus is clearly intending to send them out to forgive sins. What comes after V23 is "Doubting Thomas. How telling given your recent post.

 

[HigherGospel]

Goodness gracious John 20:21-23. Save us the context silliness. Jesus is clearly intending to send them out to forgive sins. What comes after V23 is "Doubting Thomas. How telling given your recent post.

I see so, no need to get born again and live for the Lord.

Just find an "apostle" and have them wipe your sins away.

How catholic of you

 

[Nedsk]

I see so, no need to get born again and live for the Lord.

Just find an "apostle" and have them wipe your sins away.

How catholic of you

Copy and paste where I said "...no need to get born again and live for the Lord."

You aren't mocking me I showed you the words of Jesus.

When you abandon the topic to attack the poster you've surrendered any credibility.