The BIG Question not asked, concerning Genesis 6:1-6?

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IMO the idea that angels mated with women in Genesis 6 almost certainly originates in Babylonian mythology that had stories of divine beings mating with women. It seems likely that the exiled Jews who remained in Babylon incorporated this mythology into their traditions, which eventually was incorporated into the Babylonian Talmud and the Masoretic Text from which we get our OT.

An intermediate step in this process appears in Targum Pseudo-Jonathan. Targums are redactions of the oral liturgical paraphrasings of scripture that developed in post-Babylonian-captivity Judah, to deal with the population’s pervasive inability to speak Hebrew. At religious gatherings, someone would read some portion of scripture aloud in Hebrew, and a Targumist would recite its Aramaic intepretation, that often was subject to poetic license in order to make it conform to rabbinic tradition (Halacha).



In Genesis 3:6 of Targum Pseudo-Jonathan, the serpent is identified as Sammael, the angel of death.

And the woman beheld Sammael, the angel of death, and was afraid; yet she knew that the tree was good to eat, and that it was medicine for the enlightenment of the eyes, and desirable tree by means of which to understand. And she took of its fruit, and did eat; and she gave to her husband with her, and he did eat.
In Genesis 4:1 Adam knows his wife had sex with Sammael, and she conceived Cain from the angel (of the lord)

And Adam knew that his wife Eve had conceived from Sammael the Angel (of death) and she became pregnant and bore Cain. And he was like those on high and not like those below. And she said: ‘I have got a man from the angel of the LORD’

Genesis 4:1 in the Palestinian Targum says

And Adam knew his wife Eve had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Cain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord
Verse 21:2 of the aggadic-midrashic work called Pirkei de-Rabbi Eliezer says

(Sammael) riding on the serpent came to her, and she conceived; afterwards Adam came to her, and she conceived Abel, as it is said, "And Adam knew Eve his wife" (Gen. 4:1). What is the meaning of "knew"? (He knew) that she had conceived. And she saw his likeness that it was not of the earthly beings, but of the heavenly beings, and she prophesied || and said: "I have gotten a man with the Lord"
This is all based on a little research. Make of it what you will. I'm no expert on it by any means
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Why would you even read anything in that book? it's total imagination. look at the TIME those stories were written. (yes, I said stories)
 
A search of Lamech retrieves a claim that Lamech was the name of two men in Genesis, one a wicked descendant of Cain and the other a righteous descendant a Seth (gotquestion.org). I'm thinking of the one that wrote the first rap, which the same reference refers as having been the first to take two wives, committing polygamy. I'm not convince of the two different men theory considering both are reference as being fathered by Methuselah. What I am sure of, however, is that if he was at all righteous before taking two wives, taking two displays a disregard for the 'sufficiency' of one, which is, at the least, prideful? greedy? lustful? idk, something of note.
Some might reason that, surely, God wouldn't flood the earth for anything so 'trivial,' but that's only reflects their attitudes toward it as mirroring Lamech's.
 
A search of Lamech retrieves a claim that Lamech was the name of two men in Genesis, one a wicked descendant of Cain and the other a righteous descendant a Seth (gotquestion.org). I'm thinking of the one that wrote the first rap, which the same reference refers as having been the first to take two wives, committing polygamy. I'm not convince of the two different men theory considering both are reference as being fathered by Methuselah. What I am sure of, however, is that if he was at all righteous before taking two wives, taking two displays a disregard for the 'sufficiency' of one, which is, at the least, prideful? greedy? lustful? idk, something of note.
Some might reason that, surely, God wouldn't flood the earth for anything so 'trivial,' but that's only reflects their attitudes toward it as mirroring Lamech's.

Polygamy was not a sin. Abraham, Jacob, Boaz, David, Solomon and who knows else had multiple wives.
 
You're reasoning that, because David did it, it wasn't a sin?

God never rebuked anyone for having more than one wife, and it wasn't against the law. Paul never said anything against it, except that certain church leaders should have only one wife.
 
God never rebuked anyone for having more than one wife, and it wasn't against the law. Paul never said anything against it, except that certain church leaders should have only one wife.
God allowed Moses to permit divorce, according to Jesus, because of their hard hearts. I'd argue that taking on additional wives qualifies as hating any of them.

The earth was cured by the flood. I've brought this up before, but Noah missed God's instruction to place his wife beside him, and his sons' wives beside them, when disembarking the ark. But he failed to follow that instruction, and I suspect that was perhaps from not understanding the mindset of God. Even so, I understand that there is a philosophy that looking upon your mother's nakedness is considered to be 'looking upon your father's nakedness,' which is what Ham did when Noah got drunk. I mean, what is the first thing most people determine to do when they get drunk? You know, when they put on their 'beer goggles'?
 
Noah missed God's instruction to place his wife beside him, and his sons' wives beside them, when disembarking the ark. But he failed to follow that instruction, and I suspect that was perhaps from not understanding the mindset of God.

Where does this come from?
 
The genealogy of the sons of God is listed in Genesis 5 and then 2 sentences later it calls them that. They were men of faith who were led by the spirit, ie, sons of God. The genealogy of the sons of men is listed in Genesis 4

Yep. This is the long and short of it.

Here in the New Testament, Adam is called "the son of God":

Luke 3: 38
"..the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God."


A son does what his father is doing. We even see Melchizedek like the son of God administering as a priest "of God Most High". If you have wisdom you can see this pattern all throughout the Old Testament. God did not start dealing with people until after Christ's death and resurrection. He started dealing with us in His own mind before creation. Understanding this prevents people from chasing Jewish fables about corrupt DNA.
 
Where does this come from?
Yep. This is the long and short of it.

Here in the New Testament, Adam is called "the son of God":

Luke 3: 38
"..the son of Enosh,
the son of Seth, the son of Adam,
the son of God."


A son does what his father is doing. We even see Melchizedek like the son of God administering as a priest "of God Most High". If you have wisdom you can see this pattern all throughout the Old Testament. God did not start dealing with people until after Christ's death and resurrection. He started dealing with us in His own mind before creation. Understanding this prevents people from chasing Jewish fables about corrupt DNA.
Not all rabbinical schools subscribe to this tradition, as they argue among themselves about the correct interpretation just as much as we Christians. I know of a rabbi who teaches the son of Seth understanding of the origins of the Nephilim.
 
A son does what his father is doing. We even see Melchizedek like the son of God administering as a priest "of God Most High". If you have wisdom you can see this pattern all throughout the Old Testament. God did not start dealing with people until after Christ's death and resurrection. He started dealing with us in His own mind before creation. Understanding this prevents people from chasing Jewish fables about corrupt DNA.

Agreed. This has never not been true

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Romans 8:14
 
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Not all rabbinical schools subscribe to this tradition, as they argue among themselves about the correct interpretation just as much as we Christians. I know of a rabbi who teaches the son of Seth understanding of the origins of the Nephilim.

If the sons of Seth were so righteous why weren't they saved on the ark?

Answer: They were not. Angels in the OT are called sons of God because they are a direct creation of God. Adam wasnt born, he was created by God directly. So Adam is called a son of God.
 
If the sons of Seth were so righteous why weren't they saved on the ark?

Answer: They were not. Angels in the OT are called sons of God because they are a direct creation of God. Adam wasnt born, he was created by God directly. So Adam is called a son of God.

Answer: Because they were all dead. Noah's father died 2 years before the flood and his grandfather died the year of the flood.
 
If the sons of Seth were so righteous why weren't they saved on the ark?

Answer: They were not. Angels in the OT are called sons of God because they are a direct creation of God. Adam wasnt born, he was created by God directly. So Adam is called a son of God.

And Henry Ford is the father of the automobile. There are applications of son and father that do not infer the sharing of image and likeness.
 
If the sons of Seth were so righteous why weren't they saved on the ark?

Answer: They were not. Angels in the OT are called sons of God because they are a direct creation of God. Adam wasnt born, he was created by God directly. So Adam is called a son of God.

Sons of God were to be led by the Spirit of God. When they took wives from people who did not follow the Spirit of God they disobeyed.
 
If the sons of Seth were so righteous why weren't they saved on the ark?

Answer: They were not. Angels in the OT are called sons of God because they are a direct creation of God. Adam wasnt born, he was created by God directly. So Adam is called a son of God.

They fell from righteousness, and were then considered the Nephilim, 'fallen ones.' You know, like the old saying goes, "Oh how the mighty have fallen..."

Answer: Because they were all dead. Noah's father died 2 years before the flood and his grandfather died the year of the flood.
Just for accuracy, Methuselah lived 5 years longer than Lamech's 777 total years lived (Gen 5:25-27).
 
Sons of God were to be led by the Spirit of God. When they took wives from people who did not follow the Spirit of God they disobeyed.

They were still righteous. Like the righteous Lot who let himself get distracted by worldly things. I suspect Solomon will be counted among the righteous, even though his taking many foreign wives led to Israel's idolatry and destruction. A similar thing seems to have happened with the sons of God before the flood