Charlie Kirk - so what now ?

[Eli1]

Charlie Kirk didn't like it or promote it anymore; and a growing number of conservatives are moving in that direction; because it's not just about news cycles, but also about foreign influence in our election cycles- our "allies" obviously prefer our neoconservatives and that is a problem; because being willing to fight is the only thing they are good for. When they want to get into stupid fights, it becomes a liability- and when Democrats take power, they are the first ones to bend over.

While I agree with the last half of your post, the first half makes me laugh a bit not gonna lie.

So because a person changes their position from full support of Israel to moderate support, then the Israelis are going to kill them? lol
Many people in the world hate Israel, not just people in this forum who don’t have any influence but people with some media capabilities and not to mention people in positions of US government itself.
Can’t remember her name now who’s a Muslim who pretty much hates Israel. Can’t remember her name because she’s not important to me.
Why don’t the Israelis kill her? lol

Here’s the most logical explanation.
Charlie Kirk debated leftists LIVE and during the debate he used a lot of tone, authority and some sarcasm to defeat the leftist arguments.
This of course enraged a lot of leftists and one of them who was gay with a boyfriend said that “Charlie spews a lot of hate”.
Now, in his view it’s hate because Charlie was very good at defeating their arguments so instead of presenting a counter argument or admitting defeat they resort to violence.
So he picked up a gun a shot him.

Now this is the part where you can focus a bit more. The gun itself. Because guns are so easily accessible in USA and are the equivalent of getting a candy present for Christmas , that can make the job of ANY wanna be killer very easy compared to places where they have more restrictions.
All a kid has to say is “hey grandpa can I borough your gun so I can shoot some deer this weekend?”
And this is the highest moment in the grandpa’s life.
“Here you go my nephew, here is my gun, here’s some extra ammo, let me wrap you with this American flag and happy hunting out there”.
Next thing you know, the nephew has shot another person or more people.
You could talk about this part more but I know you might not want to.

But yes you don’t have to travel around the globe when you could travel in a straight path when you’re presented with a problem or a puzzle.
Not everything is a conspiracy.

 

[SomeDisciple]

So because a person changes their position from full support of Israel to moderate support, then the Israelis are going to kill them?

This is probably a fair statement taken at face value. At the same time, it's not just a single man changing his opinion- his organization could easily change shape based on that opinion; and with so much money involved, I could see how someone on the money side of things might not want that to happen bad enough to have him taken out. Not even necessarily "Israel" or someone on their behalf.

Can’t remember her name now who’s a Muslim who pretty much hates Israel. Can’t remember her name because she’s not important to me.
Why don’t the Israelis kill her?

You'd have to specify who that is, and how much influence they have and how much money goes through them for me to give a good comparison.

Here’s the most logical explanation.

I think that's a plausible explanation; but there are too many coincidences (old guy saying he shot charlie) and the police are like "naw, he wasn't really involved, we think this was a lone gunman!!!" C'mon, that is a terrible conclusion to jump to, and they jumped to it FAST. Maybe old guy did improv that diversion; that's possible; but I would, if I was a LEO, assume he was involved from the start until it was proven otherwise. It's crazy not to.

You could talk about this part more but I know you might not want to.

Eh, I would just disagree. Without going into too much detail, I think once somebody has committed to the idea of killing somebody, then that's what they're going to do. Firearms are probably the first method that pops into their minds; but if it wasn't a firearm it would be something else. This is how we end up in a world where everybody has to cut paper with dull plastic scissors.

 

[Eli1]

This is probably a fair statement taken at face value. At the same time, it's not just a single man changing his opinion- his organization could easily change shape based on that opinion; and with so much money involved, I could see how someone on the money side of things might not want that to happen bad enough to have him taken out. Not even necessarily "Israel" or someone on their behalf.


You'd have to specify who that is, and how much influence they have and how much money goes through them for me to give a good comparison.


I think that's a plausible explanation; but there are too many coincidences (old guy saying he shot charlie) and the police are like "naw, he wasn't really involved, we think this was a lone gunman!!!" C'mon, that is a terrible conclusion to jump to, and they jumped to it FAST. Maybe old guy did improv that diversion; that's possible; but I would, if I was a LEO, assume he was involved from the start until it was proven otherwise. It's crazy not to.


Eh, I would just disagree. Without going into too much detail, I think once somebody has committed to the idea of killing somebody, then that's what they're going to do. Firearms are probably the first method that pops into their minds; but if it wasn't a firearm it would be something else. This is how we end up in a world where everybody has to cut paper with dull plastic scissors.

Let’s start with the last part. Guns. Or the method.
You see, the method is what makes a difference in a successful operation.
Because as we all know people can kill each other with rocks or even hands but that’s not a successful operation.
Guns, which are designed to kill many in a short amount of time, can MAKE a successful operation.
I know that this is a difficult topic for you, which is why many people go into conspiracy theories as opposed to discussing the elephant in the room but
Guns are the key to a successful killing operation which is why in wars, armies don’t use elevators or airbags or anything else that can kill you by accident in life. They use gun technology with gunpowder or fuel for rockets.


The old guy conclusion is valid by the authorities because many people have simply lost their minds and decorum these days due to internet and other factors.
Even when the internet didn’t exist I remember radio stations making fun of someone’s death, where in other cultures this would be unspeakable and very disrespectful , like some people do in this thread for example. Or other threads where they offend the memory of the dead.
I learned that all of this is allowed in the name of free speech. So with that in mind I think that the authorities are correct in their assessment that the old guys is a nut job boomer if I might add.


Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib who have some names which I can’t even pronounce which is why I don’t remember them are the ones I’m talking about.
Those two are pretty much agains Israel and they’re in US government seats, which means they don’t need ANY platform to advertise their views. The U.S. government is the highest platform.
How come the Israelis don’t kill them?

Lastly, or first in your post. The money angle.
What’s this got to do with who shot Charlie? It’s pretty clear that a triggered leftist who was gay, shot Charlie because Charlie defeated all leftist views in their home turf in college campuses

 

[ZNP]

Erika Kirk Does STAGED Interview & Demands Candace Owens Stop Asking Questions!

Charlie Kirk destroys Erika telling Candace to stop asking questions, according to Charlie "asking questions is the only thing that keeps us free"

 

[SomeDisciple]

I know that this is a difficult topic for you,

It's not. We could go back and forth all day; but it's for another thread, and maybe another forum entirely.

So with that in mind I think that the authorities are correct in their assessment that the old guys is a nut job boomer if I might add.

I might agree if they didn't make that assessment as fast as they did.

Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib who have some names which I can’t even pronounce which is why I don’t remember them are the ones I’m talking about.
Those two are pretty much agains Israel and they’re in US government seats, which means they don’t need ANY platform to advertise their views. The U.S. government is the highest platform.
How come the Israelis don’t kill them?

If it were ever proven that Israeli government was linked to Charlie's murder, I think we'd demand some heads... but if it were proven that they were linked to an assassination of an elected official we'd probably destroy them. Like we'd just make it into a military base for ourselves or something. (IOW it would be way too risky for them).

 

[Eli1]

@SomeDisciple , I’ll see you next week.
May we all get more signs from God until then.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Lastly, or first in your post. The money angle.
What’s this got to do with who shot Charlie? It’s pretty clear that a triggered leftist who was gay, shot Charlie because Charlie defeated all leftist views in their home turf in college campuses

I'd say it's not clear. It's blurry. And if I said it was clear just to preserve the unity of the Republican party, or the right; I'd still be lying, because I don't believe it is.

 

[pinebeach]

Apparently she left TPUSA in 2019 (made one guest appearance) because Charlie felt she was going
too far down the rabbit hole.

 

[pinebeach]

Oh no! Say it ain't so Candace.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Apparently she left TPUSA in 2019 (made one guest appearance) because Charlie felt she was going
too far down the rabbit hole.

That is correct; she still toured with Charlie after that even though she was not his employee anymore; they were obviously still on good terms personally. He was talking about bringing her back this year because people did not like the way his position on Israel was evolving.

 

[ZNP]

“Charlie Turned Down A TON OF MONEY From Israel!” – Candace Owens

Wow, Netanyahu tried to buy influence with Charlie Kirk and since Charlie's assassination a billionaire has pumped in tremendous amount of money to get influence.

What I find interesting is that we have learned that all the attacks are always projection, they accuse you of what they are doing. If they are taking money from Billionaires to be their stooges that by definition is grifting. So the grifters accusing those who are calling them on the carpet of being grifters.

I'm so glad that TPUSA is going to address all these questions and allegations tomorrow. Let's see how they do.

 

[SomeDisciple]

I'm so glad that TPUSA is going to address all these questions and allegations tomorrow. Let's see how they do.

Any info on where/what platform?

 

[ZNP]

Lord Jesus, we come before You, standing on your blood to appeal for your children, deliver us, O Lord, from the evil man: preserve us from the violent man; Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war. They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders' poison is under their lips. Selah.

Keep us, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked; preserve us from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow our goings. They pump hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars into their propaganda machine to manipulate us. The proud have hid a snare for us, and cords; they have spread a net by the wayside; they have set gins for us. Selah.

They use the public school to indoctrinate our children, they intend to turn the children against the parents and against You O Lord, and against God our Father.

Lord Jesus, Thou art my God: hear the voice of my supplications, O Lord. O God the Lord, the strength of my salvation, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. Keep us under your wing, deliver us from evil, protect us as our strong tower from any retaliation of the evil one. Grant not, O Lord, the desires of the wicked: further not his wicked device with TPUSA; lest they exalt themselves. Selah.

As for the head of those that compass me about, let the mischief of their own lips cover them. Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again. Let not an evil speaker be established in the earth: evil shall hunt the violent man to overthrow him.

I know that the Lord will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor. Surely the righteous shall give thanks unto thy name: the upright shall dwell in thy presence. Amen.

 

[ZNP]

Any info on where/what platform?

They said they were going to live stream it tomorrow, the 15th of December. We know for a fact they have heard the questions that Candace has raised. So as long as they answer those questions I think everyone will be happy. I'm glad they have decided to address these questions and I'm also glad they have been clearly articulated on these various youtube channels so there really is no need for Candace to be on the live stream, they know what the questions are, that is good enough.

 

[SomeDisciple]

They said they were going to live stream it tomorrow, the 15th of December. We know for a fact they have heard the questions that Candace has raised. So as long as they answer those questions I think everyone will be happy.

Yep, It will be on the Charlie Kirk show, I guess.

 

[ZNP]

Exodus 23:20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. 21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.

Lord Jesus we thank you for the fellowship of the apostles and all the things they have told us to keep us in the way. You are the way to the Father, no man comes unto the Father but by thee.

22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

Lord Jesus we confess that we are seeking to obey your voice and to do all that You speak. Please have mercy on us and shine your light if there is anything we have left undone of what You have spoken, or if there is anything we are doing that you have not spoken. Correct us if we are in anything otherwise minded.

23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.

This is our prayer, bring us into the good land and cut off all the fleshly tribes that are in the land.

24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.

Amen Lord. We will not bow down to Remphan or Tammuz or any of these gods of the nations. The world is being conformed to their images but we pray that we would be conformed to Your image and likeness.

25 And ye shall serve the Lord your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.

Amen, in the name of Jesus Christ, the king of Kings, we proclaim this promise from the word of God. We have a covenant, we keep your commands and You will take sickness away, so we command all sickness to leave us, in the name of Jesus Christ who sits on the throne. Amen.

26 There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.

And Lord we also proclaim this promise that our labor would be fruitful and be blessed. Amen.

27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

Lord Jesus we call on You to watch over your word to perform it. Send Your fear before us and destroy the spiritual forces of wickedness in high places. May all those involved in Epstein island and child trafficking and the worship of Moloch and Baal turn their backs to us and flee. Fill them with fear as all the things done and said in secret are revealed and proclaimed from the housetop.

28 And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee.

Lord Jesus, we also pray for You to send the hornets before us, hornets that will drive out these forces of darkness and wickedness. We pray that these podcasters would be hornets to the workers of iniquity. Whether it is drug cartels, or human traffickers, or perpetrators of fraud, or those trying to manipulate and indoctrinate the young. We pray according to Your word that the things said in secret, the things whispered in the closets, that these things would be revealed and shouted from the internet. Amen and amen.

 

[Charlesiii]

I always thought he was a woman.

Perhaps he's a eunuch? Certainly has the cruelty and arrogance components down pat!

I would pay someone myself to turn off the constant negativity and bullying that goes on by ZNP with yourself and others like groupies at a rock show cheering on the lead singer.

ps I really do not care what comments you make. None of you have anything original to offer

Negativity? I post one of your earlier comments below. You were being negative about legitimate questions being raised with the fed cover-up, making out these questions were "conspiracy theories" and "bat poo crazy". Then when you were corrected because you have done absolutely no research to support your claims, you start with the insults about groupies at a rock show. Perhaps stick to TPUSA and the Fedslop if you're into the groupie lifestyle, but some of us are having an intelligent discussion on this thread.

Proverbs 18:13
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

The theories out there are bat poo crazy. The news section of this forum seems to have become the conspiracy section and these kinds of things should be in the conspiracy forum and not here. I posted something a while back and it quickly became a conspiracy.

It's ridiculous. Some people thrive on that sort of thing and they should put their conspiracy hobbies in the right forum and not the news forum.

Perhaps take your own advice and start a topic in the conspiracy forum trying to shill up support for the government's demonstrably false narrative?

 

[Eli1]

but some of us are having an intelligent discussion on this thread.

Hit me in the head so I can become intelligent like you.

 

[ZNP]

Hit me in the head so I can become intelligent like you.

Lord Jesus we come together in agreement and ask You to wake up our brother @Eli1, amen.

 

[Eli1]

Lord Jesus we come together in agreement and ask You to wake up our brother @Eli1, amen.

Thank you brother ZNP. I wanna be at Kirk’s funeral and dishonor his memory and then when someone tells me to leave I wanna be like “wow these people are idiots. I’m just presenting another point of view”

I want to have zero situational awareness basically.
Thank you for your prayers.