Going to Hell

[HigherGospel]

This guy makes a great argument from scripture that Conspiracy Theorists Are Going to Hell

Too bad for Candace Owens and all the racist Jew hater that follow her

 

[Hakawaka]

Lets listen to this with an open mind. But the Bible TALKS about conspiracies

But maybe he talks about the absolute whackjobs who think everyone is a reptilian and other nonsense like that. Jews run the world (meanwhile the UN votes against Israel all the time, only India and America are their allies)

 

[Eli1]

Didn’t watch the video but I don’t think conspiracy theorists will go to Hell.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

lol. influencers are going to hell

 

[Jordon]

This guy makes a great argument from scripture that Conspiracy Theorists Are Going to Hell

Too bad for Candace Owens and all the racist Jew hater that follow her View attachment 283220

I listened to video, I had to switch it of after ten minutes, his whole agenda was against sinners in particular flat earthers, which I hardly think warranted him deciding whether someone led to believe the earth is flat warrants his complete annihilation of that person in Terms of condemning them to hell, only God can decide that.

I get the impression he been arguing against flat earthers in such away for far to long hes now at the stage or forcing his will over a another persons will, and I can think of far worse things to get upset about than a flat earth, hes obviously impatient and immature in dealing with circumstances

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I could only take about 5 mins of the guy. I checked out his website. Appears to be a street minister in Portland OR. Most of his stuff is on video; it's always hard to get to know what somebody's about from that format.

 

[tourist]

I would much rather participate in a thread called Going to Heaven.

 

[tourist]

I listened to video, I had to switch it of after ten minutes, his whole agenda was against sinners in particular flat earthers, which I hardly think warranted him deciding whether someone led to believe the earth is flat warrants his complete annihilation of that person in Terms of condemning them to hell, only God can decide that.

I get the impression he been arguing against flat earthers in such away for far to long hes now at the stage or forcing his will over a another persons will, and I can think of far worse things to get upset about than a flat earth, hes obviously impatient and immature in dealing with circumstances

Based on the posts in this thread I would have to conclude that this guy is a nut job.

 

[studentoftheword]

Thread Title

Going to Hell

If you want to go to Hell -- simply

REJECT JESUS

 

[Gideon300]

This guy makes a great argument from scripture that Conspiracy Theorists Are Going to Hell

Too bad for Candace Owens and all the racist Jew hater that follow her View attachment 283220

The basis of salvation is still faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus. It's not enough to have intellectual acceptance of the facts. Receiving Christ as saviour and Lord, entering into a personal relationship with God through Christ, is salvation. I don't know why conspiracy theorists should be singled out.

Everyone comes to Jesus with their own opinions and misunderstandings. Some opinions change immediately. Others take time for the truth to sink in.

I respect a number of people who speak the truth. Jordan Peterson is one, Douglas Murray is another. Those men defend The Christian way of life better than a lot of believers. Yet neither are more than "cultural Christians."

In the Christian life, it's not what you know, it's who you know that counts. Eternal life begins with knowing God and knowing Jesus. Once we know God, He can set about correcting any wrong ideas that we have.

The main obstacle to knowing the truth is religious pride. The proud are pretty much unteachable.

 

[memberofthebride]

going to heaven and going to hell ,,,, after 60 years of study I found zero scriptures confirming either, but I did find Rome very likely began these two.

to go to hell you must be immortal, how then can Jesus Christ give us the "gift" of eternal life, if we already are?

many scriptures that sorta ruin these two basic main steam doctrines.

 

[Gideon300]

going to heaven and going to hell ,,,, after 60 years of study I found zero scriptures confirming either, but I did find Rome very likely began these two.

to go to hell you must be immortal, how then can Jesus Christ give us the "gift" of eternal life, if we already are?

many scriptures that sorta ruin these two basic main steam doctrines.

Scripture also says that we are dead in trespass and sin from birth. Yet we obviously are very much alive. In reality death does not mean the end of existence. It means separation from God.

Unbelievers are already in hell. Believers are already in heaven. Up until our physical death, there is an opportunity to receive Christ and so be made alive spiritually. That means we are already, in spirit, in heaven. Those who die without Christ face the second death. That is irrevocable and they are judged as sinners. Those who die in Christ are presented with rewards according to how they have lived in this life. There are no born again believers in hell. There are many who imagined themselves to be good Christians who are in hell.

 

[DavidLamb]

Thread Title

Going to Hell

If you want to go to Hell -- simply

REJECT JESUS

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I agree. Nowhere does the bible say that to avoid hell we have to believe that the earth is a certain shape, that the moon landings took place, that Antarctica is a continent, not a huge wall of ice surrounding the earth, etc.

 

[engblom]

First I am going to confess that I did not watch that video. Regardless if you believe in those theories or not, that is not what is making you saved or not. We are saved by grace.

John 17:3 "And this is eternal life, that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."

Many are so caught up looking for all kind of theories that they do not have time to read the Bible and pray. They do not take time to learn to know God. This is a danger. And it is not a danger for just those believing in conspiracy theories. Think about the pharisees. They had a lot of Scripture knowledge, and could discuss any topic, but they did not know God.

We should make it our priority to learn to know God, and he will then guide us to the truth.

 

[memberofthebride]

Scripture also says that we are dead in trespass and sin from birth. Yet we obviously are very much alive. In reality death does not mean the end of existence. It means separation from God.

Unbelievers are already in hell. Believers are already in heaven. Up until our physical death, there is an opportunity to receive Christ and so be made alive spiritually. That means we are already, in spirit, in heaven. Those who die without Christ face the second death. That is irrevocable and they are judged as sinners. Those who die in Christ are presented with rewards according to how they have lived in this life. There are no born again believers in hell. There are many who imagined themselves to be good Christians who are in hell.

Point out scripture stating we are immortals, that we have right now eternal life.

I rely only on God's Word.

Ecclesiastes 3

19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity.

20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

9: 5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

If unbeliever are in hell right, now that means God is very very weak, as that would mean at least 90 % of all that have been born are in Hell. From creation until Christ came the first time maybe less then 1000 were of GOD, prove otherwise from the Old Testament.

that could possibly be in the 100's billions in this fictitious hell over the span of 6000 years, not a great success rate! Plus God has said HE wants all to have eternal life.

if God is mercy how could he punish men whom Christ said there is not one good, ever!

Quit listening to the Catholic's, this is where 90% of what the 40,000 believe came from.

 

[DavidLamb]

Point out scripture stating we are immortals, that we have right now eternal life.

I rely only on God's Word.

““He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”” (Joh 3:36 NKJV)

The verb "has" is present tense, not future.

 

[HigherGospel]

I would much rather participate in a thread called Going to Heaven.

Jesus said only a few find the narrow path that leads to life.

Based on the posts in this thread I would have to conclude that this guy is a nut job.

That's what those embracing conspiracy theories (lies and deception) keep saying

I don't know why conspiracy theorists should be singled out.

They teach lies and deception which is heresy

Heresy is on God's list of things that cause people to not inherit His Kingdom. See Galatians 5:19-21

If you want to go to Hell -- simply

REJECT JESUS

Those that teach lies and deception have rejected Jesus by walking with the fake "jesus" which is satan and his devils acting religious to trick those who don't know God';s Word in to thinking they are serving the Lord butt are really being led by devils and they're too blind and slow to even know it..

In the Christian life, it's not what you know

Sadly those who do not know God's Truth - His WORD - won't be found in His Kingdom.

2 Thessalonians 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

I agree. Nowhere does the bible say that to avoid hell we have to believe that the earth is a certain shape, that the moon landings took place, that Antarctica is a continent, not a huge wall of ice surrounding the earth, etc.

God's Word never mentions that smoking crack is sinful either, but it is and it will keep people from going to Heaven unless they repent and STOP smokin that crack!

We should make it our priority to learn to know God, and he will then guide us to the truth.

And the Lord NEVER leads anybody in to the lies and deceptions of conspiracy theories, butt the devil and his demons certainly will

if God is mercy how could he punish men whom Christ said there is not one good, ever!

Those believing in annihilationism are accusing Jesus Christ of being a liar.

Jesus tells us people are tormented in hell forever.

The devil claims people are not tormented in hell forever.

We know who is following doctrines of demons when they claim Jesus is a liar.

 

[memberofthebride]

““He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”” (Joh 3:36 NKJV)

The verb "has" is present tense, not future.[/QUOTE


Comment;

GWT 36 Whoever believes in the Son has the promise of eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life. Instead, he will see God's constant anger."

Once the Father's Spirit is in a person they have the Promise of eternal life, the down payment, if they endure until the end, they will receive life eternal.

if they reject the Son that Spirit is taken away and they will die, forever dead. no flesh has immortality.

When I die, which may be soon, I will be dead. At the Last Trump when Christ returns I will be resurrected with a spirit Body exactly like Jesus Christ has now. and THEN I will live forever more. I have zero interest in living in this flesh, I have for 85 years that is all I want.

GWT Philippians 3: 21Through his power to bring everything under his authority, he will change our humble bodies and make them like his glorified body.

 

[HigherGospel]

Once the Father's Spirit is in a person they have the Promise of eternal life, the down payment, if they endure until the end, they will receive life eternal.

Sadly those who allow themselves to be deceived by lies and deception did not endure In Christ - in the Truth - unto the end.

They did not love the Truth that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:10
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

 

[Gideon300]

Jesus said only a few find the narrow path that leads to life.

Sadly those who do not know God's Truth - His WORD - won't be found in His Kingdom.

You have only a shallow understanding of the gospel. "Higher"? Not so.

You overlook the fact that Jesus is the Word of God. You replace the Living Word with the written word. You overlook the fact that Jesus is the Truth. The written Word should lead us to the Living Word. The written word is our safety net to keep us from error.

You make the Pharisee's mistake: John 5:39 & 40 "You search the Scriptures because you presume that by them you possess eternal life. These are the very words that testify about Me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.…"

Sure, you declare the Lord Jesus, but you put conditions on salvation that are contrary to God's word. Yes, you can "search the scriptures" to find verses that prop up your point of view. But you also fail to express the truths that don't fit in with your understanding.